Hanrahan's Injury

[Thunder]

Hanrahan moved to 60 Day DL, essentially ending his season, because that means that he may need TJ.

[Station 13]

Another one bites the dust. Hopefully Bailey can return and stay off the DL.

 

Our GM loves fat relievers. <_>

[BSN07]

Sox should be in on Wilson when he is ready. His beard will fit nicely on the team

[a700hitter]

Is Wison fat enough for our FO to consider?

[jung]

Holy Cats!!! Hanrahan to the 60 day DL and maybe to TJ! Boy BC is going to have to make some hard decisions regarding pitching.

[iortiz]

Another one bites the dust. Hopefully Bailey can return and stay off the DL.

 

Our GM loves fat relievers. <_>

 

.... and pay them a lot.

[BSN07]

Is Wison fat enough for our FO to consider?

 

We could throw in on one of those sumo suits right? That should get him past the eyeball test haha

[iortiz]

Is Wison fat enough for our FO to consider?

 

Not sure but I just figured out why Pap is not longer here

[Palodios]

Being fat means a pitcher is more durable.

 

--argument given by fat people.

[BSN07]

Being fat means a pitcher is more durable.

 

--argument given by fat people.

 

CC has that phrase tattooed on his lower-mid back

[iortiz]

... and Colon lol

[iortiz]

just noticed that Hanrahan has Ian Scott Anderson (JethroTull) look

[VA Sox Fan]

Not new news but kinda of a relief....no pun intended...

 

Joel Hanrahan placed on 60-day disabled list; season in doubt

 

Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff May 9, 2013 04:50 PM

 

The Red Sox placed Joel Hanrahan on the 60-day disabled list today to make room on the 40-man roster for righthanded reliever Jose De La Torre.

 

Hanrahan had been placed on the 15-day disabled list Tuesday with a flexor muscle strain. He is now on his way to Birmingham, Ala., to be examined by Dr. James Andrews Friday.

 

Regardless of the diagnosis, Hanrahan will be out at least two months and likely more.

 

"Once we got the initial MRI, it seemed that was a possibility," Sox manager John Farrell said. "Not knowing the extent or total number of days, we felt it was still going to require some recovery time. Then when you factor in the build-up back from that, it felt like it was going to be a couple of months total at a minimum."

 

There is concern that Hanrahan could have a torn ulnar collateral ligament. That would require Tommy John surgery.

 

"We can't rule it out," Farrell said. "But yet I don't know that there's information that's in hand to date that says it's definite ligament issues. That's where tomorrow's exam will be valuable in that area."

 

Hanrahan also could have surgery to repair the flexor muscle.

 

"That's been part of the discussion," Farrell said. "That's where he's got to get his arms around the situation with as much information as possible and make the decision at that point."

 

But even if surgery can be avoided, Hanrahan will not be back for at least two months — if then.

 

"Best case is the conservative treatment," Farrell said. "That is rest, rehab, recovery, and return to action. That's the best I can tell you right now."

 

Is there any hope that Hanrahan pitches again for the Red Sox this season?

 

"At this point, yes," Farrell said. "If everything were to respond favorably to that conservative course of action then, yes, that's a possibility."

 

The Sox are also without backup closer Andrew Bailey, who went on the disabled list Monday. Junichi Tazawa now has the job.

 

"A healthy Joel Hanrahan getting injured is a blow for anyone," said Farrell. "A guy that's been a very successful pitcher, I don't know that you can just necessarily replace a guy of his abilities and talents.

 

"But regardless of the injuries that we're dealing with right now, our expectation and our level of play shouldn't be compromised by that.

 

"That's the expectation here, to go out every night, to prepare and put a game together to win."

[VA Sox Fan]

Not sure but I just figured out why Pap is not longer here

 

No choice but to let the Pap situation go. Done and done...

 

just noticed that Hanrahan has Ian Scott Anderson (JethroTull) look

 

Don't offend Ian Anderson that way!!!!!

[Northern Star]

Sox closer is visiting Dr. James Andrews tomorrow, and when that happens, it's usually bad. He is listed as having a "forearm strain", so how bad to you think this injury actually is?

 

Bad?? This injury is great news.

[SoxSport]

If only closers were as durable as GMs.

[MJantomaso]

I met Hanrahan and Shane Vic at Famous Daves BBQ in Ft. Myers. Hanrahan had about 10 sweet teas, 3lbs of brisket and enough texas toast to feed an African village. He made Vic look like he had the appetite of a Victoria Secret model.

[Station 13]

Was Bobby Jenks there too?

[mvp 78]

Is there a correlation between weight and arm troubles that I'm not aware of?

 

"Hey Strasburg, go eat another donut you fat pig!"

[BornToRun]

What's Keith Foulke up to these days?

[Dojji]

This is why you don't try to go cheap on the back end of your bullpen. How much talent has the failure to retain Papelbon's services already cost us? The fallout from two failed trades and now possibly a third on the horizon as well.

[Dojji]

What's Keith Foulke up to these days?

 

Nevermind Foulke, I want to go to the Dodgers and see what their asking price is on Kenley Jansen. I'm through with third-string options. Pay what it takes to bring in a guy you KNOW will get the job done, stop the bleeding for a few years, and move on to other problems.

[a700hitter]

Nevermind Foulke, I want to go to the Dodgers and see what their asking price is on Kenley Jansen. I'm through with third-string options. Pay what it takes to bring in a guy you KNOW will get the job done, stop the bleeding for a few years, and move on to other problems.

Are you getting fed up with the late inning roller coaster of disaster of the last few years. A good closer is a very stabilizing force for a team. People that think otherwise don't realize tht teams that go from closer to closer on a year by year basis have inconsistent performances from year to year. They will point to the Rays and say that they have been successful, but with Rodney s***ing the bed 3 out of 4 games and turning back into Rodney, they have lost several games late and they are fighting Toronto for last place. Will they right their ship? Yes, if Rodney rights his ship or they replace him. The Rays rolled the dice and got lucky with pigs like Farnsworth and Rodney for a few years. It's not a good strtategy IMO. Get a good closer without arm trouble and lock him up for a few years.

[Dojji]

Are you getting fed up with the late inning roller coaster of disaster of the last few years.

 

I was fed up with it before it started. I was calling this happening while people were still cavalierly underestimating what they were letting go when they let Paps walk.

[iortiz]

This is why you don't try to go cheap on the back end of your bullpen. How much talent has the failure to retain Papelbon's services already cost us? The fallout from two failed trades and now possibly a third on the horizon as well.

 

Some people will never undersand this.

 

The funny thing is that they weren't cheap either on this the last 2 years. They had a solid proved durable closer and let him go. How much money have they spent in Jenks, Hanrahan, Bailey and not to mention all the failures on their experiments with Aceves, Padilla, Bard, etc. Hopefully they don't screw Tazawa and Koji arms too.

[Orange Juiced]

I really think Tazawa has what it takes to be a really good major league closer. Live fastball, excellent control. Let's look at his numbers the past two seasons:

 

2012: 44.0 ip, 37 h, 7 r, 7 er, 1 hr, 5 bb, 45 k

2013: 15.1 ip, 13 h, 5 r, 5 er, 2 hr, 3 bb, 19 k

 

TOT: 54 g, 59.1 ip, 50 h, 12 r, 12 er, 3 hr, 8 bb, 64 k, 1.82 era, 238 era+, 0.98 whip, 1.2 w/9, 9.7 k/9, throws 70% of his pitches for strikes

 

Those are TREMENDOUS numbers. He's just 27, makes peanuts, and won't become a free agent until 2017. This is the guy you want as your future closer.

[User Name]

Cheap? They're paying Hanrahan 7 mill.

 

The problem wasn't letting go of Papelbon. He is not a mythical figure that they were not going to be able to replace. The problem wasn't getting an adequated replacement. They have had chances. I remember many here calling for Joe Nathan, who has had a renaissance with the Rangers in a tougher stadium.

 

Let's not pretend that "Paps" is impossible to replace, and that contract is still, (and time will show it ) an albatross. Let's acknowledge, however, their utter futility when it comes to getting an adequate replacement. The funny thing is that they may have the replacement in-house and may not even know it.

[a700hitter]

I was fed up with it before it started. I was calling this happening while people were still cavalierly underestimating what they were letting go when they let Paps walk.

Yep, a few of us were right there with you sharing those concerns. I realize that they had no budget to sign himat the time, but that doesn't mean that it wouldn't have an impact. People had the attitude that he was over priced and we had no budget for it so therefore losing him didn't matter. It did matter, and since he left, I have been getting a new ulcer now each time we go to the 9th inning in a save situation.

[User Name]

I really think Tazawa has what it takes to be a really good major league closer. Live fastball, excellent control. Let's look at his numbers the past two seasons:

 

2012: 44.0 ip, 37 h, 7 r, 7 er, 1 hr, 5 bb, 45 k

2013: 15.1 ip, 13 h, 5 r, 5 er, 2 hr, 3 bb, 19 k

 

TOT: 54 g, 59.1 ip, 50 h, 12 r, 12 er, 3 hr, 8 bb, 64 k, 1.82 era, 238 era+, 0.98 whip, 1.2 w/9, 9.7 k/9, throws 70% of his pitches for strikes

 

Those are TREMENDOUS numbers. He's just 27, makes peanuts, and won't become a free agent until 2017. This is the guy you want as your future closer.

 

Some people will never understand this: A closer is a guy who can get outs in pressure situations. Not a mythical creature, like a unicorn.

 

And for the record, Bailey will come back after the minimum 15 days. A lot of the whining will stop if he can hold up reasonably the rest of the seaosn,.

[a700hitter]

I really think Tazawa has what it takes to be a really good major league closer. Live fastball, excellent control. Let's look at his numbers the past two seasons:

 

2012: 44.0 ip, 37 h, 7 r, 7 er, 1 hr, 5 bb, 45 k

2013: 15.1 ip, 13 h, 5 r, 5 er, 2 hr, 3 bb, 19 k

 

TOT: 54 g, 59.1 ip, 50 h, 12 r, 12 er, 3 hr, 8 bb, 64 k, 1.82 era, 238 era+, 0.98 whip, 1.2 w/9, 9.7 k/9, throws 70% of his pitches for strikes

 

Those are TREMENDOUS numbers. He's just 27, makes peanuts, and won't become a free agent until 2017. This is the guy you want as your future closer.

The only thing standing between him and being a good closer is doing it on the field-- the biggest hurdle of all.