2013 Spring Training

[SoxSport]

Bogaerts gets a hit! Loading bases with 1 out. tie game bottom of 9th.

 

I'd put this kid at SS in a minute. Give him a shot.

[a700hitter]

And just after you posted this, Fred posts his 5 years of failure nonsense. So, there you go.

 

Also, if all you want is meaningful games in September, you should have been fine with 09, 10 and 11, but you weren't.

It is 5 years of failure. Acknowledging failure doesn't equate with expecting to win every year. It just doesn't. I expect the 2013 team to finish 4thor last as do many experrs and fans. If you want to consider that a success, go right ahead, but neither of us expects a playoff bound team. I can't even make sense of what you are saying above.

[BSN07]

Bogaerts gets a hit! Loading bases with 1 out. tie game bottom of 9th.

 

I'd put this kid at SS in a minute. Give him a shot.

 

imo he's not ready offensively. Those first two pitches he swung at were bad pitches His discipline needs to be better. He's going to be a good player, still needs some seasoning though.

[SoxSport]

Netherlands beats Cuba 7-6!

[BSN07]

Woooot walk off sac fly! Nederlands!!!!!

 

 

Horns are blaring all over my neighborhood lol

[a700hitter]

Exactly.

 

"If I'm right about the team sucking, I can gloat about that. If I'm wrong about the team sucking, I can gloat about the team being a good team".

SFF, I and a bunch of others could have danced on everyone's head last year, but we didn't. There was no reason to. We sucked and the season was miserable. You usually stick to the facts and your own opinions, but this is made up BS.

[SoxSport]

imo he's not ready offensively. Those first two pitches he swung at were bad pitches His discipline needs to be better. He's going to be a good player, still needs some seasoning though.

 

neither was Hanley.

[a700hitter]

That is such total ********.

 

Some of the posters here were absolutely dead nuts on in their low expectations for the 2012 Sox, were roasted alive for it when they offered those expectations, having their fandom questioned of all things just like this year. When they turned out to be exactly dead nuts on they never once offered an I told ya' so. Then again most of their detractors were not around to recognize that because they scurried off to the hills or some other forum I guess for fear of the apparently awesome power of the "Internet I told ya' so".

 

And ya' need to get your stories straight.

 

We can't be overly critical with low expectations and be overly critical with unrealistically high expectations at the same time! Unbelievable.

 

If I had to guess, for some of you, you are just lashing out because the same people that had low expectations for the 2012 team and had it called exactly right, are now expressing a similar view of the 2013 team and you just cannot handle the possibility that they will have called it exactly right once again.

 

At least be consistent for crying out loud and don't scurry off this year like a bunch of scared little children if you turn out to be on the wrong side of the discussion.

 

For the record this is a discussion forum carrying "Talksox" at its banner head, not "WorshipSox". If you cannot separate your opinions in discussion from your fandom, grow up and come back when you can.

 

For the record, the most embarrassingly subpar performances by this organization that i have witnessed in my entire 50 years as a fan have taken place the last two years....not fifty years ago. You don't have to have much of a memory to go back and find this organization's worst moments.....like hiring Bobby V to manage $179M in player salary assets....now they was a stroke of brilliance for ya'.

Best post of the off season.:thumbsup:

[a700hitter]

Woooot walk off sac fly! Nederlands!!!!!

 

 

Horns are blaring all over my neighborhood lol

Bicycle horns.

[SoxSport]

Too bad fat Andruw Jones couldn't score from 2B on Bogaerts' hit. He walked home on the deep sac fly.

[SoxSport]

Best post of the off season.:thumbsup:

 

Yeah, they have really screwed the pooch the last couple years. From Henry on down.

The media has been light on the higher ups, but they'll go after the FO this year if things don't get better.

 

Tough to predict seasons--one way or another. Depends too much on injuries--serendipity.

[SoxSport]

Watching these WBC games, these guys are playing like it was the ML playoffs. You wonder if it will take something out of them for the regular ML season.

[BSN07]

neither was Hanley.

 

Fair point I just lie to see his offense game refined a bit, Sox have a couple capable SS's right now. But I wouldn't be upset to see him in Boston this year.

[mvp 78]

 

If I had to guess, for some of you, you are just lashing out because the same people that had low expectations for the 2012 team and had it called exactly right, are now expressing a similar view of the 2013 team and you just cannot handle the possibility that they will have called it exactly right once again.

 

At least be consistent for crying out loud and don't scurry off this year like a bunch of scared little children if you turn out to be on the wrong side of the discussion'.

Who was "right" about 2012? No one on here. No one said they'd win 69 games. The lowest number of projected wins was 82 by Muggah.

 

Now who was "exactly" right on here? Not a700, SBF, iortiz. No one.

 

If memory serves me right, SBF scurried off during last season as well.

[Palodios]

SFF, I and a bunch of others could have danced on everyone's head last year, but we didn't.

 

********. After the 2011 playoff failure, you dubbed yourself "King of Talksox" because you had called out the team's potential flaws. How is that not dancing on everyone's head?

[a700hitter]

Who was "right" about 2012? No one on here. No one said they'd win 69 games. The lowest number of projected wins was 82 by Muggah.

 

Now who was "exactly" right on here? Not a700, SBF, iortiz. No one.

 

If memory serves me right, SBF scurried off during last season as well.

When have you predicted the precise number of wins. If that is your measure of being right, no one is ever right. Several people predicted that the team could blow up if they had any injuries, etc. Everything would have had to go right with no injuries for the 2012 team to be competitive. This is politician like spin from you. On the one hand, you accuse people of always predicting gloom and doom because they enjoy it, but on the other hand, when gloom and doom happens, you say that it wasn't predicted, because the number of losses was not predicted. This is utter nonsense. It is talking out of both sides of your mouth. If we didn't predict failure last year, then we must have predicted success, so we can't be perpetual gloom and doomers. No wonder you could only last a year in Brooklyn with this kind of ******** argument. GFO with this nonsense.

[a700hitter]

********. After the 2011 playoff failure, you dubbed yourself "King of Talksox" because you had called out the team's potential flaws. How is that not dancing on everyone's head?

The King of TalkSox was not dancing on heads about being right. It was because I had the most posts, nothing more than that. You were here throughout the season, so you know that I didn't gloat last year. Puhlease. Do you want to see gloating, because I could go that way this year if you like. I don't like to gloat about losing, because losing stings too much.

[Palodios]

The King of TalkSox was not dancing on heads about being right. It was because I had the most posts, nothing more than that. You were here throughout the season, so you know that I didn't gloat last year. Puhlease. Do you want to see gloating, because I could go that way this year if you like. I don't like to gloat about losing, because losing stings too much.

 

I definitely agree that you didn't gloat nearly as much during the miserable 2012 season, but there was definitely a lot of pessimist ballwashing after 2011. The a700--iortiz dynamic was pretty brutal for a while there, couldn't make a single post without "The smartest two posters on the board" comments being thrown around.

[a700hitter]

I definitely agree that you didn't gloat nearly as much during the miserable 2012 season, but there was definitely a lot of pessimist ballwashing after 2011. The a700--iortiz dynamic was pretty brutal for a while there, couldn't make a single post without "The smartest two posters on the board" comments being thrown around.

I didn't gloat down the stretch in 2011 even though I warned that we were circling the drain on or around September 1st. You were here then, so you know that too. I don't know why you are jumping in to pick fight with me with really nothing to back up what you are saying? Do we need to go doen this road? As for the offseason 2011, it was brutal, but you were part of it. My recollection is that the biggest argument that offseason was over whether DC was a big market-- not even a Red Sox topic.

[Palodios]

Sometimes I wonder if Yeszir feels like he has a fishtank full of sea-monkeys.

 

For a while, he had more of active part, helped it grow, but eventually he got to the point where TalkSox was self-contained. He changes the water filter once in a while, but for the most part, the sea monkey colony works on its own. Sometimes the colony goes to war on itself-- he can decide to watch or interact, depending on a whim

[Bellhorn04]

I had a front row seat for another forum (Sawxheads) blowing up because the 'positives' and the 'negatives' developed such a hate for each other. It got to the point where the posts were much more about people fighting with each other than they were about baseball. It was sort of funny but mostly ridiculous.

[seabeachfred]

And just after you posted this, Fred posts his 5 years of failure nonsense. So, there you go.

 

Also, if all you want is meaningful games in September, you should have been fine with 09, 10 and 11, but you weren't.

 

If all I want is meaningful games in September, I should have been fine with 09, 10, and 11? Well thats not what I wanted if it didn't end up with a title of some kind. For some reason you think that those of us who are more critical of our team all think the same. WRONG!!!!!! My friend 700 Hitter has some ideas different than mine and that goes for Sox Sport and Jung as well.

 

I've said this to you before but apparently you're getting senior moments long before you should. To me success is an AL East Division or an AL League or a WS Title. If you don't one of those three I consider it failure. Pure and simple. You don't have to agree with me, no one has to agree with me but that's how I see it........and we haven't won anything the past five years. That is not success in my book; it is failure, especially for a team with a big payroll and a deeply loyal fan base. Some of you might be satisfied with less. I woul have to be too I suppose if I didn't have any choice in the matter but I wouldn't consider it success.

 

You think now that I have explained my philopshy of what I constitute as success that you have finally gotten it???????:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Palodios]

To me success is an AL East Division or an AL League or a WS Title. If you don't one of those three I consider it failure.

 

Going back 20 years

The Red Sox have won the division in 1995, and 2007.

The Red Sox won the WS title in 2004 and 2007.

The Red Sox have had a AL League title zero times.

 

Essentially what you're saying is that you think the Red Sox have failed 90% of the time. If that's how you see this team, then we're going to argue a lot.

[rjortiz]

Any idea of who is pitching after Lester for the Red Sox?

[SoxFanForsyth]

Pitching: LHP Jon Lester followed by RHP Rubby De La Rosa, RHP Alex Wilson, RHP Anthony Carter, RHP Chris Carpenter.

 

Extra Bases (on Boston.com, done by Nick Cafardo and Pete Abraham) does a daily update on all things Red Sox, including games and scheduled appearances.

 

Here's today's link: http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2013/03/grapefruit_leag_42.html

 

Here's the link for Extra Bases:

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/

[seabeachfred]

That is such total ********.

 

Some of the posters here were absolutely dead nuts on in their low expectations for the 2012 Sox, were roasted alive for it when they offered those expectations, having their fandom questioned of all things just like this year. When they turned out to be exactly dead nuts on they never once offered an I told ya' so. Then again most of their detractors were not around to recognize that because they scurried off to the hills or some other forum I guess for fear of the apparently awesome power of the "Internet I told ya' so".

 

And ya' need to get your stories straight.

 

We can't be overly critical with low expectations and be overly critical with unrealistically high expectations at the same time! Unbelievable.

 

If I had to guess, for some of you, you are just lashing out because the same people that had low expectations for the 2012 team and had it called exactly right, are now expressing a similar view of the 2013 team and you just cannot handle the possibility that they will have called it exactly right once again.

 

At least be consistent for crying out loud and don't scurry off this year like a bunch of scared little children if you turn out to be on the wrong side of the discussion.

 

For the record this is a discussion forum carrying "Talksox" at its banner head, not "WorshipSox". If you cannot separate your opinions in discussion from your fandom, grow up and come back when you can.

 

For the record, the most embarrassingly subpar performances by this organization that i have witnessed in my entire 50 years as a fan have taken place the last two years....not fifty years ago. You don't have to have much of a memory to go back and find this organization's worst moments.....like hiring Bobby V to manage $179M in player salary assets....now they was a stroke of brilliance for ya'.

 

Look Jung, you have to understand that some of those posters simply do not want to hear anything negative about the team, even if the team is loaded with negatives as ours was last year. When it turns out that way and we remind them of it, they lash out with anger and then deny we were right in the first place.

 

You talk about those who scurried and I will bet dollars to donuts that our esteemed mvp will say I scurried out the way USER did. Wrong!!!! In June I said I was leaving the board because I didn't want to ruin for others since I had nothing good to say about the 2012 team and wouldn't I stayed because the team was s***** and wouldn't get better. USER left because he made some ridiculous predictions and then fled when he came out looking like a fool. We don't have to defend our loyalty to the Red Sox but I'll be damned if I am going to be a pollyanna when I see a pile of rot eating away at our team like last year and instead claim that all is well and hark back to 2004 and 2007. Six and nine years are a lifetime in baseball these days.

[seabeachfred]

Fred, you are an idiot. Just look at the contract Texas gave Berkman and tell me they wouldn't have signed Ortiz. Also, there's one important thing lacking in YOUR DNA. The ability to use logic to form ideas.

 

Speaking of idiots, if you think Ortiz would have passed the physical if he had signed with Texas, you not only need more bran in your diet but a brain transplant as well. He was damaged goods, ergo, he would not have passed the physical and that would have been that. Also I am convinced that if the Red Sox had let Ortiz go you would have stood and clapped and said it was the right move because, no matter what anyone says about anyone, your reputation is solid......you simply cannot disagree with ANYTHING the front office does. And soon everyone on this board will know it and your credibiity will be as shot as your thinking process is.

[seabeachfred]

Interesting that he brings your name up in a discussion you weren't a part of. Does the same thing to mvp or any of the many people that disagrees with him on a regular basis.

 

And you butt in with some dig at me and contribute nothing to the baseball dialogue except to make assinine comments. Keep waving those 2004 and 2007 pom poms madame and hark back to the glory days while keeping the blindfold on and not seeing or understanding the rot that has eaten into the team.

[a700hitter]

Speaking of idiots, if you think Ortiz would have passed the physical if he had signed with Texas, you not only need more bran in your diet but a brain transplant as well. He was damaged goods, ergo, he would not have passed the physical and that would have been that. Also I am convinced that if the Red Sox had let Ortiz go you would have stood and clapped and said it was the right move because, no matter what anyone says about anyone, your reputation is solid......you simply cannot disagree with ANYTHING the front office does. And soon everyone on this board will know it and your credibiity will be as shot as your thinking process is.

Maybe their doctors are bigger imbeciles than ours.

[seabeachfred]

Woooot walk off sac fly! Nederlands!!!!!

 

 

Horns are blaring all over my neighborhood lol

 

Please accept my personal congratulations BSN on your adopted country's win over those Communist bastards. A good day for all of us.