2013 Red Sox predictions.

[redsoxbeatz]

Do you guys call each other by your talksox usernames or real names when you hang out?

[iortiz]

Just read that the Sox could push for Aron Harang.

[User Name]

Aaron Harang was traded to the Rockies yesterday for C Ramon Hernandez.

[Palodios]

Aaron Harang was traded to the Rockies yesterday for C Ramon Hernandez.

 

FYI, the Rockies are the ones trying to trade him, not the Dodgers.

[User Name]

FYI, the Rockies are the ones trying to trade him, not the Dodgers.

 

I haven't seen that ANYWHERE. Linky plz.

[Palodios]

I haven't seen that ANYWHERE. Linky plz.

 

Rosenthal

 

[User Name]

That doesn't make any sense. The Rockies are short on pitchers. Then again, Harang's a flyballer, and that doesn't work at Coors.

[seabeachfred]

I haven't seen that ANYWHERE. Linky plz.

 

LA Times today. The Rockies traded for Harang and gave the Dodgers Ramon Hernandez, and then DFA'd Harang. It is possible they are trying to trade him to the Red Sox or some other team. He might be worth a shot if the Rockies don't get greedy and ask for a ransom in exchange.

[jung]

Not sure there is a good place for this post but it is not worthy of a new thread.

 

NESN was hoping to have something more on Lackey during the game today. There was nothing reported. The MRI was today though or at least everybody thought it was scheduled for today. Has anybody heard anything about the MRI results or seen anything posted?

[iortiz]

Red Sox, Twins, Astros All Interested In Harang

By Charlie Wilmoth [April 7, 2013 at 9:37pm CST]

The Red Sox, Twins and Astros are all interested in trading for Aaron Harang, FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports (on Twitter). The Rockies hold Harang's trade rights after recently acquiring him from the Dodgers for catcher Ramon Hernandez, although the Rockies designated Harang for assignment immediately after the deal.

 

Harang pitched 179 2/3 innings for the Dodgers in 2012, posting a 3.61 ERA, 6.6 K/9 and 4.3 BB/9. The Dodgers had an abundance of starting pitching and didn't have much use for him in 2013, and given his age (34) and declining peripherals (not to mention the fact that the Rockies have already designated him for assignment), it's unlikely even a team in need of pitching would be willing to give up much for him. The fact that the Dodgers are paying $4.25MM of the $7MM he's owed in 2013 (he also has a $2MM buyout and a mutual option for 2014) should make him a somewhat more attractive trade target, however.

 

The Red Sox could be looking for a replacement for John Lackey, who left his start Saturday with an injury. Alfredo Aceves currently appears likely to take Lackey's place. The Twins and Astros both have weak rotations and could use a veteran to eat innings, although Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN in Minneapolis wrote Saturday (on Twitter) that a Twins official said the team was not interested in Harang.

[jung]

Hum.......Maybe the Sox are trying to work on a Plan C presuming Ace as a replacement starter was Plan B. Talk about a cluster f*** of a plan B.

 

We were supposed to get more on Lackey today but did not. That may not be a particularly good sign.

[jung]

Well that is even more interesting. The Sox have the MRI. The official report according to EEI is "no report".

[Palodios]

Well that is even more interesting. The Sox have the MRI. The official report according to EEI is "no report".

 

We'll know by today. If he's hurt, they're going to have to DL him to bring up another pitcher. If he isn't DLed today, it means it isn't as serious as we thought. We'll probably see Alex Wilson brought up today.

[jung]

I should have known not to take for granted that the EEI morning crew could get anything right. Now that Ordway is gone I expect those dolts to be the next to go at some point. I was listening at both times. They have contradicted themselves at least five times already.

 

I guess all I could say at this point is that "unofficially" the word is that Lackey will likely miss two starts. That is the latest from the EEI bunch. The sports desk at NESN is still reporting that there is no official word.

[BSN07]

I saw a Edes tweet that said Lackey was "upbeat" about the injury. Maybe it's nothing serious?

[SoxSport]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/2013/04/08/larry-lucchino-expects-john-lackey-miss-start-two/xu1f1RFCH8AMMCICWZOGVI/story.html

 

Lackey to miss one or two starts. Nice opportunity to bring up Webster to see what he can do. Instead, I hear they are shopping for retreads like Harang. Maybe that was before they knew Lackey was OK. But still a nice opportunity for a Webster look-see. Will they do it? Doubt it.

 

The story also gives credit to Cherington for holding out for Webster and DeLaRosa. I believe that. The big salary dumps were handled by Henry and Kasten--if you followed the story. The FOs worked out the prospects. That's their job--to know the farm systems.

 

It's imperative this club maintains its momentum--and builds on the strengths it has shown so far--a balance of pitching, speed, defense and power.

[Dojji]

I'd actually be quite shocked if we called up Webster at this point, straight out of AA. I can see the appeal of the retreads. Neither Webster or JDLR are ready for prime time this early in the year -- both of them need at least another half season. So unless you're going to call up the likes of Chris Hernandez or Terry Doyle, or slide Aceves into the rotation, your options are actually pretty limited.

[BSN07]

I'm guessing Aceves will step in for a couple starts.

[a700hitter]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/2013/04/08/larry-lucchino-expects-john-lackey-miss-start-two/xu1f1RFCH8AMMCICWZOGVI/story.html

 

Lackey to miss one or two starts. Nice opportunity to bring up Webster to see what he can do. Instead, I hear they are shopping for retreads like Harang. Maybe that was before they knew Lackey was OK. But still a nice opportunity for a Webster look-see. Will they do it? Doubt it.

 

The story also gives credit to Cherington for holding out for Webster and DeLaRosa. I believe that. The big salary dumps were handled by Henry and Kasten--if you followed the story. The FOs worked out the prospects. That's their job--to know the farm systems.

 

It's imperative this club maintains its momentum--and builds on the strengths it has shown so far--a balance of pitching, speed, defense and power.

I am betting that he misses at least 4 starts. He was supposedly pretty sore after the game. Putting a pitcher on the mound to give max effort after getting a muscle strain in his arm is not something that you do right after the pain goes away.

[BSN07]

I am betting that he misses at least 4 starts. He was supposedly pretty sore after the game. Putting a pitcher on the mound to give max effort after getting a muscle strain in his arm is not something that you do right after the pain goes away.

 

Ya 2 starts seems kinda short for an arm worry. Maybe it was just a deep muscle cramp type situation. If that's the case missing 2 starts only makes a little more sense.

[a700hitter]

Ya 2 starts seems kinda short for an arm worry. Maybe it was just a deep muscle cramp type situation. If that's the case missing 2 starts only makes a little more sense.

It would surprise me if it was only two starts. He's probably not going to be allowed to throw long toss for a few days. I would imagine that they will have him throw a simulated game before they put him back out on the mound. They are calling it bicep tendonitis. They need to make sure that all of the inflammation is gone.

[seabeachfred]

Red Sox, Twins, Astros All Interested In Harang

By Charlie Wilmoth [April 7, 2013 at 9:37pm CST]

The Red Sox, Twins and Astros are all interested in trading for Aaron Harang, FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports (on Twitter). The Rockies hold Harang's trade rights after recently acquiring him from the Dodgers for catcher Ramon Hernandez, although the Rockies designated Harang for assignment immediately after the deal.

 

Harang pitched 179 2/3 innings for the Dodgers in 2012, posting a 3.61 ERA, 6.6 K/9 and 4.3 BB/9. The Dodgers had an abundance of starting pitching and didn't have much use for him in 2013, and given his age (34) and declining peripherals (not to mention the fact that the Rockies have already designated him for assignment), it's unlikely even a team in need of pitching would be willing to give up much for him. The fact that the Dodgers are paying $4.25MM of the $7MM he's owed in 2013 (he also has a $2MM buyout and a mutual option for 2014) should make him a somewhat more attractive trade target, however.

 

The Red Sox could be looking for a replacement for John Lackey, who left his start Saturday with an injury. Alfredo Aceves currently appears likely to take Lackey's place. The Twins and Astros both have weak rotations and could use a veteran to eat innings, although Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN in Minneapolis wrote Saturday (on Twitter) that a Twins official said the team was not interested in Harang.

 

Well here we go again irotiz!!!!!! Do we or don't we? With John Lackey gone for at least 15 days we are denuded of depth in the starting pitching department. Harang might be a decent fit but not if the Rockies get greedy now that three teams seem interested in him and start raising the ante. If that happens we should tell the Rockies to buzz off. It should cost us a mid to low level prospect and that is all. Of course if dickweed Aceves could get his s*** together and take over that 5th spot and pitch up a storm we wouldn't need Harang. Come to think of it, Aceves will probably pitch Friday even though with an off day tomorrow we could skip that fifth spot if Farrell wants to.

[BSN07]

Well here we go again irotiz!!!!!! Do we or don't we? With John Lackey gone for at least 15 days we are denuded of depth in the starting pitching department. Harang might be a decent fit but not if the Rockies get greedy now that three teams seem interested in him and start raising the ante. If that happens we should tell the Rockies to buzz off. It should cost us a mid to low level prospect and that is all. Of course if dickweed Aceves could get his s*** together and take over that 5th spot and pitch up a storm we wouldn't need Harang. Come to think of it, Aceves will probably pitch Friday even though with an off day tomorrow we could skip that fifth spot if Farrell wants to.

 

Harang makes little sense unless Lackey is out long term. If it's a couple starts then that's what Aceves is for. Besides isn't Harang a flyball career NL'er? No thanks.

[seabeachfred]

Harang makes little sense unless Lackey is out long term. If it's a couple starts then that's what Aceves is for. Besides isn't Harang a flyball career NL'er? No thanks.

 

Living in the LA area I know all about Harang and you're right BSN, he is a notorious fly ball pitcher. He can also eat innings, though, and even with our team seemingly off to a very nice start, our lack of starting depth due to injury or whatever concerns me. I don't think we have gone a whole year with a injury free rotation since 2004. Those extra pitchers can come in handy, speaking of which, who would be available if not Harang?

[mvp 78]

Why do retread veterans have tobe our depth. Why can't it be younger guys?

[seabeachfred]

Why do retread veterans have tobe our depth. Why can't it be younger guys?

 

Because for one thing we keep hearing that our young pitching prospects are not yet ready. I would love it to be Webster but we hear it's going to be June before they consider him. Who else is there? Lackey is out for awhile and Dempster is very questionable in my opinion. We'll see on Wednesday. Doubrant? Maybe. We still need some depth, however. What are your suggestions?

[iortiz]

Well here we go again irotiz!!!!!! Do we or don't we? With John Lackey gone for at least 15 days we are denuded of depth in the starting pitching department. Harang might be a decent fit but not if the Rockies get greedy now that three teams seem interested in him and start raising the ante. If that happens we should tell the Rockies to buzz off. It should cost us a mid to low level prospect and that is all. Of course if dickweed Aceves could get his s*** together and take over that 5th spot and pitch up a storm we wouldn't need Harang. Come to think of it, Aceves will probably pitch Friday even though with an off day tomorrow we could skip that fifth spot if Farrell wants to.

We need depth, period. He is a perfect #5 - #6 fit. Aceves ain't going anywhere as SP.

[a700hitter]

We need depth, period. He is a perfect #5 - #6 fit. Aceves ain't going anywhere as SP.

Aceves will get his shot. My fingers are crossed.

[User Name]

Harang would get his s*** wrecked at Fenway.

[Lucienbel]

Aceves will get his shot. My fingers are crossed.

 

That's going to be too bad. Really hoping it won't be Friday like someone else said, I'd rather not be there for that.

 

As for Harang, he'd have to be really cheap. I agree that the guys in AA probably aren't ready to go, but I don't know how much better an option Harang ends up being. That ERA likely goes way up in the AL East with its small ballparks and all. Not sure how Jurrjens or Marcum did/are doing, but now it's really looking like they should have been considered.