Lester on the block

[a700hitter]

Because they are proven and on team friendly deals. Myers how ever great he may be is an unknown. And becomes more available then the others when the team searchers for a #1 SP so they can win now so to speak. KC is making a push now. And probably will have to sacrifice Myers to be able to keep the current core together. In a perfect world I'm sure KC would love to keep Myers.

So then he is not the kind of prospect that Harper and Trount were.

[BSN07]

So then he is not the kind of prospect that Harper and Trount were.

 

Washington and LAA sent a lot of pieces for their #1's but held on to their best prospect. Those two teams can also supplement those losses (prospect wise) with $. Something KC can not do. They need to trade as few prospects as possible. And when looking for a #1 that means having to use a big chip. Which Myers is.

[a700hitter]

Washington and LAA sent a lot of pieces for their #1's but held on to their best prospect. Those two teams can also supplement those losses (prospect wise) with $. Something KC can not do. They need to trade as few prospects as possible. And when looking for a #1 that means having to use a big chip. Which Myers is.

If he's in the same league as the other 2 guys, they are not going to trade him, because the major flaw in your argument is that Lester is no #1.

[Plumpamania]

Trout and Harper were both unknowns until produced. Go back to Vulcan sir.

[Plumpamania]

If he's in the same league as the other 2 guys, they are not going to trade him, because the major flaw in your argument is that Lester is no #1.

 

Please advise on the 30 #1's in MLB today.

[a700hitter]

Trout and Harper were both unknowns until produced. Go back to Vulcan sir.

But they were can't miss prospects and those don' t get traded.

[a700hitter]

Please advise on the 30 #1's in MLB today.

You are penciling in Lester as our #1?

[Plumpamania]

You are penciling in Lester as our #1?

 

As of right now yes. It's him or Clay. Neither of course is a true number one, but Lester would be far and away the BEST pitching in KC since Greinke.

[BSN07]

Please advise on the 30 #1's in MLB today.

 

And from that list, please state the ones that are available.

 

Fact of the matter is, there isn't any. Shields and Lester are about as close as it gets.

[BSN07]

You are penciling in Lester as our #1?

 

Right now he is the obvious choice. Lackey? No. Buchholz? Maybe. Doubront? hahaha you hate Doubront.

[a700hitter]

If Myers is close to being in the same league as Harper or Trout, KC would be insane to trade him for Lester who pitched to a 5 1/2 ERA. Without looking, he was probably the worst #1 in all of baseball. Many teams have better #2's, and no, I don't know which of them are available, and neither does anyone else. The Royals could sign Haren for about the same money as Lester will be making for the next 2 seasons without giving up such an elite talent.

[a700hitter]

Right now he is the obvious choice. Lackey? No. Buchholz? Maybe. Doubront? hahaha you hate Doubront.

What makes you think I hate doubront? I am concerned that his last 2 months of 2012 was not just fatigue, but he has earned the 5th spot unless Lackey can turn back the clock and pitch like he did for the Angels.

[Plumpamania]

Wil Myers - OF - Royals

 

Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star reports that the Royals have had discussions about trading top prospect Wil Myers for either James Shields or Jon Lester.

The Royals have already added Ervin Santana via trade this offseason from the Angels and recently signed Jeremy Guthrie to a three-year contract, but they want a true front-line starter and are apparently willing to deal one of the most promising young hitters in the game in order to acquire one. Myers, 21, batted .314/.387/.600 with 37 home runs and 109 RBI in 134 games this past season between the Double-A and Triple-A levels.

Related: Jon Lester, James Shields

Source: Kansas City Star

Nov 26 - 8:07 PM

[a700hitter]

Right now he is the obvious choice. Lackey? No. Buchholz? Maybe. Doubront? hahaha you hate Doubront.

Lester being our obvious #1 underscores why we are a suckass last place team.

[a700hitter]

Wil Myers - OF - Royals

 

Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star reports that the Royals have had discussions about trading top prospect Wil Myers for either James Shields or Jon Lester.

The Royals have already added Ervin Santana via trade this offseason from the Angels and recently signed Jeremy Guthrie to a three-year contract, but they want a true front-line starter and are apparently willing to deal one of the most promising young hitters in the game in order to acquire one. Myers, 21, batted .314/.387/.600 with 37 home runs and 109 RBI in 134 games this past season between the Double-A and Triple-A levels.

Related: Jon Lester, James Shields

Source: Kansas City Star

Nov 26 - 8:07 PM

November 26th is old news.

[jung]

That is the other interesting aspect of this potential trade. Even with Lester being an established ML pitcher he has work to do to get back to what KC would need from him. He is as much of a gamble to be the kind of guy KC needs as Myers is to be the next Trout.

 

The dif of course is that they will be paying Lester $11.6m as soon as they pick him up. If I were KC and could trade with somebody I would be looking for somebody that would cost me more money but that was more likely to give me what I need than Lester. Maybe that is why this deal has not actually been done as yet.

 

Why aren't the Rays a way better candidate for a trade than the Sox just as an example.

[Plumpamania]

We'll have to wait and see won't we?

[Plumpamania]

That is the other interesting aspect of this potential trade. Even with Lester being an established ML pitcher he has work to do to get back to what KC would need from him. He is as much of a gamble to be the kind of guy KC needs as Myers is to be the next Trout.

 

The dif of course is that they will be paying Lester $11.6m as soon as they pick him up. If I were KC and could trade with somebody I would be looking for somebody that would cost me more money but that was more likely to give me what I need than Lester. Maybe that is why this deal has not actually been done as yet.

 

Why aren't the Rays a way better candidate for a trade than the Sox just as an example.

 

The Rays are, but Lester is younger and a LHSP.

[BSN07]

Lester being our obvious #1 underscores why we are a suckass last place team.

 

All the more reason to trade him for a top prospect and maybe try to re-sign him in two years if they are close to contention.

[User Name]

This conversation may become moot anyways. I get the feeling that Tampa's going to deal David Price, and that the guy they'll be gunning for is Myers. No way can the Sox compete against that.

[example1]

But they were can't miss prospects and those don' t get traded.

 

Hanley Ramirez was a #1 prospect and was traded. I suspect Jacob Turner was a #1 prospect when Detroit moves him for Sanchez. I'm confident there are other examples.

 

Secondly, just because a prospect isn't Harper or Trout doesn't mean they aren't good. Hell, Trout is a much better player than Harper so grouping them might not even make sense.

 

As for being one dimensional, wasn't Ted Williams that way? Babe Ruth? Was Hank Aaron known for his defense? Unless its atrocious I think it will be tolerable.

 

Finally you said that there are reports that Myers defense isn't MLB ready. I believe that you read that (rather than just citing made up stuff) but can you find the link so I can see it too? Thanks.

[Plumpamania]

And that's why example1 and I go back to Netsports.

[jung]

Lester may be younger but your argument is that KC wants to make a move to win now. So how does the age matter when competing with Shields or Price with Lester?

[Plumpamania]

Please don't group Price together with Shields or Lester. That's not fair to him.

[seabeachfred]

I don't think they are going to expect big ticket sales. That's why I expect the payroll is going to be closer to 100M then 200M. When Myers(if a trade happens), Barnes, De le Rosa , Bogaerts are ready to join the ML team, interest will pick back up and the payroll will rise again to supplement the young core.

 

Lester is no lock to sign another team friendly extension this off season. And I doubt if he pitches good this year he's going to bi-pass a shot at free agency that's only a season away. He will be 30 when his deal is up. And is he pitches decently the next two seasons he's getting CJ Wilson money minimum. If he pitches well, he cold be looking at CC, Hammels, Lee money.

 

Another thought it who's to say the can't trade him, then when he's a free agent bring him back? Trade for Myers and build with the youngsters the next two years. Then when they are ready for their push they could always go out and sign him on the open market. Something they may very well have to do anyways. Just a thought.

 

The only lock Lester is sure of is that he will once again get off to a crappy start, just as he has done every year for us, even in his good years. Besides that, he was absolute s*** last year on the mound, especially at home. His attitude was pathetic, always arguing calls with umpires and then crmbling apart. We finished last with him so we can do without him. A trade for Will Myers would be a good one for us since it is doubtful Lester will get his infintile s*** together. I wish it weren't so because I was one of his biggest fans a couple of years ago, but for his sake and especially for the team we need to get rid of this crud. He has become part and parcel of what was described this season as a very unlikeable team.

[SoxFanForsyth]

The only lock Lester is sure of is that he will once again get off to a crappy start, just as he has done every year for us, even in his good years. Besides that, he was absolute s*** last year on the mound, especially at home. His attitude was pathetic, always arguing calls with umpires and then crmbling apart. We finished last with him so we can do without him. A trade for Will Myers would be a good one for us since it is doubtful Lester will get his infintile s*** together. I wish it weren't so because I was one of his biggest fans a couple of years ago, but for his sake and especially for the team we need to get rid of this crud. He has become part and parcel of what was described this season as a very unlikeable team.

 

With fans like you, who needs the Yankees?

[a700hitter]

All the more reason to trade him for a top prospect and maybe try to re-sign him in two years if they are close to contention.

I am not against trading Lester. I proposed that during the season. I just don't think that this kid Myers could be a big stud like Trout or Harper. Otherwise, they wouldn't let him go for what Lester put on display last season.

[jung]

Price is better than Shields. Problem is that the Rays have so much pitching that they have several options they can throw on the table for Myers if they really want him.

[jung]

I think that comment from BC about the Sox pitchers pitching to their potential is scary as s***. They Sox have to do at least one of Haren or Marcum and if they deal Lester they have to do both. Yikes.

[mvp 78]

I think that comment from BC about the Sox pitchers pitching to their potential is scary as s***. They Sox have to do at least one of Haren or Marcum and if they deal Lester they have to do both. Yikes.

 

BC's comments seem to say that he wouldn't be trading Lester. Could there be a chance they don't pick up a SP? Yup. Or they may get a AAAA starter like last year.