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I know many are high on John Farrell but the timing may not work out.

 

Mike Maddux makes a lot of sense to me from a number of perspectives - particularly his background with pitching and the success he has had with the Rangers.

 

This morning on D&C, Tim Kurkijan mentioned Brad Ausmus as an example of a former player without previous managerial or coaching experience (see Robin Ventura and Mike Matheny).

 

Whoever it is, it needs to be someone who will hold the players accountable, work well with the FO, manage relationships well, and have either a strong background in and/or strong emphasis on improving the pitching performance.

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May I ask why you're so big on Mike Stanley?

 

He was a member of the team for a number of years. He served as a bench coach in 2002. He was a major league Catcher and 1B'man. He was a true professional. His approach to hitting is most similar to the glory days here (take pitches, high OB%, high OPS).

 

He was always a respected member of their clubhouse.

 

Like John Farrell, when Mike Stanley walks into a clubhouse, his quiet yet direct approach gets peoples attention.

 

Mike Stanley knows the game.

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Bobby Valentine gets another crack at it.

 

But only if the front office hand him back his balls that they placed in a jar this May.

 

Truth be told, he probably deserves a fair shot at it this time.

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Idiot Cherington might go after Brad Mills. Rumor is that last year, Sox went after John Farrell. He would be nice.
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Bobby Valentine gets another crack at it.

 

But only if the front office hand him back his balls that they placed in a jar this May.

 

Truth be told, he probably deserves a fair shot at it this time.

 

Well they've cleared out Beckett, CC and Youk. Those were the 3 offseason issues BV had last year. With the texters leaving, Shop and AGon, it seems the players who didn't like Bobby got the boot.

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Well they've cleared out Beckett, CC and Youk. Those were the 3 offseason issues BV had last year. With the texters leaving, Shop and AGon, it seems the players who didn't like Bobby got the boot.

 

Let's just hope they don't touch Pedroia.

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Well they've cleared out Beckett, CC and Youk. Those were the 3 offseason issues BV had last year. With the texters leaving, Shop and AGon, it seems the players who didn't like Bobby got the boot.

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

He's got to be prepared to manage the team they way he wants.

Don't get me wrong. He's not my ideal choice. Not by a long shot.

 

But the pieces are in place now for him to have a fair crack.

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I'd rather not have Bobby V back, but he wasn't what caused this wreck of a team. The pitching needs vast improvement, and they already are rid of some monster contracts. If they invest it properly, Bobby V should get a good shot to prove himself as a manager in 2013.
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I don't think Pedey is going anywhere. I think his relationship with Bobby is fine. I think he didn't like Bobby at first because he loved Tito so much. The whole picture drama was just Pedey busting balls which he does to everyone. Not a big deal.
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Why is everyone so high on Farrell? He was here for a good part of the slow decline after 2007 and he ain't exactly setting the world on fire with the Jays right now is he?
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Kevin Millar.

 

Seriously though, I think Bobby V or Brad Mills will be managing this team next year, in that order of likeliness. I really just don't see Bobby V leaving. He's a good manager, and I think he'd do well with younger kids (Lavarnway, WMB, Iggy, Ciriaco, Kalish, etc). If he can get Pedroia on his side, this could very well be a playoff team.

 

Gonzo has had a subpar year, CC played 31 games, and Beckett was out of it all year. This trade only improves us. We'll have money and prospects galore to go get those elite arms that we need so badly. Our offense will be good, not 2011-12 good, but still above average.

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Why is everyone so high on Farrell? He was here for a good part of the slow decline after 2007 and he ain't exactly setting the world on fire with the Jays right now is he?

 

He was around in 2010 when the beer and chicken group reportedly first came together. He was also a pretty miserable pitching coach.

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He was around in 2010 when the beer and chicken group reportedly first came together. He was also a pretty miserable pitching coach.

 

Now that's really not fair. Farrell probably isn't a world beating coach, but throwing away everything we accomplished from 2007 because of one month, however bad, really doesn't smack of a particularly strong connection to reality.

 

And the next manager is probably going to be either Valentine or a low budget AAAA retread.

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Now that's really not fair. Farrell probably isn't a world beating coach, but throwing away everything we accomplished from 2007 because of one month, however bad, really doesn't smack of a particularly strong connection to reality.

 

And the next manager is probably going to be either Valentine or a low budget AAAA retread.

 

John Farell came to the team in 2007 with a pile of veteran pitching, already ready to go, not to mention Jason Varitek and they won the WS off all the work that had been done before him. He was particularly bad at fixing mechanical flaws in pitchers. Younger pitchers were often afraid to talk to him-- Manny Delcarmen mentioned that in an interview. His personality seriously clashed with Dice-k.

 

I've never liked him very much.

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