Does Lester start vs the Yankees?

[jacksonianmarch]

Easy enough. EEI is on board with DL'ing him and using Morales in that spot, but do you think Lester should go out there vs the Yankees later this week?

 

BTW, this was supposed to be a poll

[NC Sox Fan]

No. He needs to figure out what's wrong before he starts again. If that means going on the DL, so be it. The Sox need every chance they can get in order to get the WC. Can not afford to have him out there hamstringing the team in the first.

 

Had he been facing NY instead of Toronto, the score may have been even more lopsided.

[User Name]

The entire coaching staff of this team needs to be canned. Just sayin'.

[cbbosox]

If he's healthly leave it up to him. We are not going to the playoffs anyway so to me it's not about wins and losses it's about him turning it around for next year(with Iglesias at SS

Lavarnway catching and Pedroia , Ellsbury, Crawford and Bailey healthy)

[a700hitter]

No, he will get crushed. Put him in the pen. No DL. He needs to work out his issues in real game situations. There will plenty of garbage time for him to work out of the pen and regain his confidence and mechanics.

[redsoxbeatz]

It's all about the mechanics for Lester, nothing else is wrong with him. Put him in the pen and use him when it's an obvious loss or clear victory (ahead by ~7+ runs except vs Yanks).

[a700hitter]

It's all about the mechanics for Lester' date=' nothing else is wrong with him. Put him in the pen and use him when it's an obvious loss or clear victory (ahead by ~7+ runs except vs Yanks).[/quote']Yep. I agree.

[kapsis21]

The entire coaching staff of this team needs to be canned. Just sayin'.

 

yes.. Angels fired their hitting coach who was their back bone for years. and look how it all turned out after he got yanked.

fire the pitching coach and their assistants. get AAA guys here. or someone from somewhere.

 

The staff is an absolute joke.

[d-money]

This guy and Beckett have flopped!!Its frustrating watching these two guys right now.

[Station 13]

No need to DL him. Skipped him. Start Morales/Tazawa.

[iortiz]

No. As I said, he is done this season IMO. His head is f***ed up. Let Morales Start.

[Brennan]

It doesn't make sense to start him at all until he gets his mechanical problem fixed. Whether he stays with us or moves on it would suck to see a young pitcher with so much promise possibly get a serious injury from using his body incorrectly. Not to mention what it would do to his pshyche.

[SoxSport]

The organization has gone stale. The roof has to cave in before anything happens. They aren't seeing what people on the outside see.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Yes he starts. This team lives and dies on the back of Jon Lester and Josh Beckett. That's just how it is. And that's why they're dying right now.

[VA Sox Fan]

I hope like hell he doesn't. He has no confidence pitching at home, it would a nightmare at Yankee Stadium. The fans would be all over his ass.

[SemperFi Sox]

Minimum of 4 HR over the right field porch.

[example1]

Easy enough. EEI is on board with DL'ing him and using Morales in that spot, but do you think Lester should go out there vs the Yankees later this week?

 

BTW, this was supposed to be a poll

 

Does it matter?

 

That's like asking whether the guy in the lifeboat should jump in the water and die of drowning or stay in the boat and die of dehydration. Either way, he's dead.

 

Lester can probably start fresh next year, but one more pummeling won't change him for better or worse in my opinion.

 

Given that he's more-or-less at the "work through it" stage, he might as well have as many opportunities to work through it as possible.

[SCM33]

Does it matter?

 

That's like asking whether the guy in the lifeboat should jump in the water and die of drowning or stay in the boat and die of dehydration. Either way, he's dead.

 

Lester can probably start fresh next year, but one more pummeling won't change him for better or worse in my opinion.

 

Given that he's more-or-less at the "work through it" stage, he might as well have as many opportunities to work through it as possible.

 

Yeah, who gives a s***. The only guy I care to watch start a game is now in the bullpen (Morales).

[VA Sox Fan]

From today's Globe:

 

Lester stays in rotation, will start on Saturday

 

Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff July 24, 2012 12:41 AM

 

 

 

ARLINGTON, Texas — The Red Sox are sticking with Jon Lester, Bobby Valentine saying after the game that the struggling lefthander will stay in the rotation. Lester's next game will be on Saturday against the Yankees in the Bronx.

 

Lester will have a change in routine, however. Instead of his usual bullpen session on Wednesday, he will face some hitters in a simulated game.

 

“We’ve got a nice proactive plan,” said Valentine, who met with Lester before tonight's 9-1 loss. “He says he feels great and is throwing the ball as well as he’s thrown the ball in a couple of years. We’ve just got to get him at a point where his good stuff if getting hitters out and he says he’s ready to do that.”

 

Lester is 5-8 with a 5.46 earned run average. Of the 42 qualified starters in the American League, only three have a higher ERA. He has lost his last three starts, giving up 21 earned runs on 25 hits and 10 walks over 12.1 innings.

 

Lester had the worst start of his career on Sunday against Toronto, allowing 11 earned runs before being pulled in the fourth inning.

 

Lester faced the Yankees on July 8 and allowed five runs (four earned) on nine hits. He did not get out of the fifth inning in a game the Red Sox lost, 7-3.

[jacksonianmarch]

There will be no inbetween. Either the adrenaline fixes something internally in him and he comes out blazing or he will go down in a spectacular explosion of homeruns and RBI

[SoxSport]

We'll leave Ben & Co to ponder that question while the Rangers swoop in and get Josh Johnson.

They just lost Lewis for the season. That's one of the Sox problems. Their competitors (Rangers, Tigers, Jays)have more aggressive organizations when it comes to dealing. I won't even mention the Yankees--who clearly are at another level in dealing.

[Orange Juiced]

No. As I said' date=' he is done this season IMO. His head is f***ed up. Let Morales Start.[/quote']

 

I like Morales a lot. But when he started against the Yankees earlier in the season, we saw this: 3.1 ip, 6 h, 6 r, 6 er, 2 bb, 2 k in a 6-1 loss. No thanks.

 

I say let Lester start, hope he figures some things out, and if he's on his game (which he's capable of), it might end up being a significant win for him and the team. At this point, worth the risk.

[jung]

I wonder at this point whether they will stick with him as long if he starts to go south in his next start as rapidly as he has because he does not get enough better to save the Sox from another lost game when he is like this. It is almost like if they have any hopes of winning the game, the just about have to have somebody up in the pen in the 1st inning.

 

Who knows anymore. They can't be blind. This team does not have the horses this year so while they are not going to admit that maybe allowing Lester to start under these circumstances is close to saying that anyway.

[Bellhorn04]

Why not? Things can't get any worse now anyway.

[redsoxfan3]

We are only 4 games out of the WC. There is still hope to make that, but that relies heavily on the SP. I say Lester gets one more start against the Yankees. I don't think he will turn things around, but if for some miraculous reason he does, then he stays in the rotation. If not, then he goes to the bullpen and Morales starts in place of him. I just cannot understand for the life of me why Morales is in the pen. The pen has been decent this year, and moving him back to the pen when he should be a starter is ridiculous. The weakest part of this team is the SP, so we take one of our most consistent SP as of late out of the rotation. That makes no sense at all. McClure needs to go. Cook has been inconsistent, but I would rather have him in the rotation over Dice-K. In a perfect world, hopefully Beckett, Lester, Buchholz, Morales, and Doubront can all get better and be our starting 5.

[SoxSport]

Any lefty will do in Yankee stadium. I mean any. Who cares.

[Bellhorn04]

We are only 4 games out of the WC. There is still hope to make that' date=' but that relies heavily on the SP. I say Lester gets one more start against the Yankees. I don't think he will turn things around, but if for some miraculous reason he does, then he stays in the rotation. If not, then he goes to the bullpen and Morales starts in place of him. I just cannot understand for the life of me why Morales is in the pen. The pen has been decent this year, and moving him back to the pen when he should be a starter is ridiculous. The weakest part of this team is the SP, so we take one of our most consistent SP as of late out of the rotation. That makes no sense at all. McClure needs to go. Cook has been inconsistent, but I would rather have him in the rotation over Dice-K. In a perfect world, hopefully Beckett, Lester, Buchholz, Morales, and Doubront can all get better and be our starting 5.[/quote']

 

Morales is on an innings limit for the year.

[Jakerocker]

You have to start him, sitting him not only ruins his confidence, but also lowers his trade value if we are trying to trade him in the first place. Might as well start, and hope he does well.

 

I actually think he might pitch decently, JUST because no one expects it. Not saying, lets start a perfect game watch, but maybe 5 ip, 3 er kinda game.

[SoxSport]

While the Red Sox ponder the question of which LHP should start in Yankee Stadium, the Dodgers just bought Hanley Ramirez. This guy, if nothing else, was an opportunity lost to unload Crawford. They may never get another.

 

This team has sucked for 3 years now. There is no sense of urgency to do anything on the part of the ownership or the front office. They seem to be in a holding pattern. I wonder if Henry isn't getting ready to sell the team. You stop winning, the fans stop coming.

 

P.S. You can argue both ways about Lester or Morales--I don't think it makes much difference.

Last night, V finally got these guys to force a run --taking a couple of walks. He pretty much had to twist a few arms to do it. Not Crawford's.

[SoxSport]

Morales is on an innings limit for the year.

 

Why? Is he coming off shoulder surgery? Is he a rookie?