Youk to White Sox

[a700hitter]

Benny Boy hasn't set the world on fire with any of his deals yet, but I thought he could dump a player by at least sending him to the NL. He couldn't get that right? We get to face him for 4 games right after the All Star Break. That's good, he'll have time to fill in Konerko and the rest of their hitters about our pitchers.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I've actually always thought Lillibridge is an underrated player. I know his numbers don't necessarily back it up, and the fact that Baseball Reference mentions his 2nd position as a "Pinch Runner" isn't exactly exciting, but I think he's a better player than his numbers show.

 

Don't know anything about Zack Stewart other than Peter Gammons tweeting that the White Sox thought they got an absolute steal in him when they traded Edwin Jackson.

[Youk Of The Nation]

I'm still going to miss that ugly bastard.

[a700hitter]

Lillibridge can play the infield too. Apparently he can handle every position except catcher. That's a valuable asset to have.

Check his stats as an MIFer. The White Sox have been using him in the OF for a reason.

[BornToRun]

That is true. He seems to be flexible' date=' but the thing that kills him is his offense.[/quote']

 

Youk isn't exactly tearing it up either. Plus, Brent has shown an ability to hit off of lefties. We're getting a guy to fill the same role but do more out of it with a potential to give us a serviceable bat.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Anyways, sarcasm and my love for Youk aside, I do think it was time for him to go. I agree with a700 that I would have rather seen him go to the NL, but on the whole I like the job Cherington has been doing.

 

It's going to be bizarre seeing Youk in a different uniform.

[BornToRun]

Benny Boy hasn't set the world on fire with any of his deals yet' date=' but I thought he could dump a player by at least sending him to the NL. He couldn't get that right? We get to face him for 4 games right after the All Star Break. That's good, he'll have time to fill in Konerko and the rest of their hitters about our pitchers.[/quote']

 

Cody Ross says hello.

[mvp 78]

I have no problem with Ben's rack. Youk had to go.

 

On the lighter side of things, I have two red player t's for Youk and Paps. What player t should I pick up next in order to curse them off the Sox?

[SemperFi Sox]

I have no problem with Ben's rack. Youk had to go.

 

On the lighter side of things, I have two red player t's for Youk and Paps. What player t should I pick up next in order to curse them off the Sox?

 

Crawford

[VA Sox Fan]

Benny Boy hasn't set the world on fire with any of his deals yet' date=' but[b'] I thought he could dump a player by at least sending him to the NL.[/b] He couldn't get that right? We get to face him for 4 games right after the All Star Break. That's good, he'll have time to fill in Konerko and the rest of their hitters about our pitchers.

 

The only NL in the hunt were the Dodgers. For whatever reason, that didn't happen. Crabster. Give "Cherries" a break. Time will tell what this trade means/does. Relax my brethran.

[mvp 78]

Crawford

 

Done, I'll see if they have one at Target next time I'm there. Note: the curse seems to take 10-12 months to go into effect. It'd get rid of that horrible contract though.

[VA Sox Fan]

I have no problem with Ben's rack. Youk had to go.

 

On the lighter side of things, I have two red player t's for Youk and Paps. What player t should I pick up next in order to curse them off the Sox?

 

Lackey

[SoxFanForsyth]

Benny Boy hasn't set the world on fire with any of his deals yet' date=' but I thought he could dump a player by at least sending him to the NL. He couldn't get that right? We get to face him for 4 games right after the All Star Break. That's good, he'll have time to fill in Konerko and the rest of their hitters about our pitchers.[/quote']

 

I'm pretty sure Konerko is going to be telling Youk about our pitchers more than vice versa. How many times has Youk faced these guys? You can't see how a FB moves from standing at 3B.

 

Anyone can go online and see the types of pitches that a pitcher throws. The fact that we play the White Sox in mid July is not a big deal. You're completely overstating this just because we got fleeced on the deal. But this wasn't a "Lets try to max our value with Youk" deal. This was a "Lets get our team in order so we can start making up some ground without all this drama." Players need consistency. Gonzalez doesn't need to be playing RF to fit in Youk and Middlebrooks. Youk is a veteran who, if benched, will cause waves in the dugout. Middlebrooks is a rookie who, if benched, makes the team worse.

 

What did you expect to get from this deal? Or are you just mad because he didn't go to an NL team? Because if that's it, then you're very much overstating the significance of 1 player changing teams.

 

I mean, hell, Shoppach is a freaking catcher going from the Rays to the Red Sox. You don't see the Sox suddenly dominating the Rays.

[MDF3530]

Lillibridge is a decent bench player. Zach Stewart on the other hand is absolute crap. He'll be in the independent leagues in a few years.

 

Not sure. Dunn's at 1B and O Hudson at 3rd. Konerko is the DH

 

Dunn and Konerko switch off as 1B/DH. They just brought in Hudson to keep the seat warm. The regular 3B, Brent Morel, has a bad back that isn't getting any better.

[jacksonianmarch]

What I find hilarious was that there was a rumbling of Youk trades in the pre-season and everyone here thought he'd return a guy like Garza or a top line starter plus prospects. I said he was washed up, injured and his value was low. He came out and showed he was washed up, and now the sox GAVE him away. You guys got a utility outfielder who cannot play CF and an old minor leaguer with a limited repertoire AND gave nearly 5 million to the White Sox to let Youk go. I think that was about his value, dont get me wrong, but they gave him away. And as a700 is saying, if you are gonna give him away, dont give him to a team you will be fighting against in the wild card. If Youk gets motivated and puts out one last gasp run of .900OPS from here on out, the White Sox could keep you out of the playoffs.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Lillibridge is a decent bench player. Zach Stewart on the other hand is absolute crap. He'll be in the independent leagues in a few years.

 

 

 

Dunn and Konerko switch off as 1B/DH. They just brought in Hudson to keep the seat warm. The regular 3B, Brent Morel, has a bad back that isn't getting any better.

 

This doesn't sound familiar....

[redsoxfan3]

I was reading the message boards over at redsox.com and some of the comments there are ridiculous. There seems to be a split of people praising BC and complaining about BC. Yes, Youk was once a gold glover and has won two WS with the Red Sox. That does not have any impact on how much he has sucked this year. Just because he was good in the past does not mean that we should expect more in return. The facts are that he has struggled this year and that he has been injury prone. Some people that call themselves fans over there amaze me.

[Elktonnick]

What I find hilarious was that there was a rumbling of Youk trades in the pre-season and everyone here thought he'd return a guy like Garza or a top line starter plus prospects. I said he was washed up' date=' injured and his value was low. He came out and showed he was washed up, and now the sox GAVE him away. You guys got a utility outfielder who cannot play CF and an old minor leaguer with a limited repertoire AND gave nearly 5 million to the White Sox to let Youk go. I think that was about his value, dont get me wrong, but they gave him away. And as a700 is saying, if you are gonna give him away, dont give him to a team you will be fighting against in the wild card. If Youk gets motivated and puts out one last gasp run of .900OPS from here on out, the White Sox could keep you out of the playoffs.[/quote']

 

I agree. The sox got nada for Youk. THey could have gotten a player like Lillbridge anytime. They should have doen this deal in the offseason and they would have not only done better but resolved a clubhouse issue sooner.

[a700hitter]

I've actually always thought Lillibridge is an underrated player. I know his numbers don't necessarily back it up, and the fact that Baseball Reference mentions his 2nd position as a "Pinch Runner" isn't exactly exciting, but I think he's a better player than his numbers show.

 

Don't know anything about Zack Stewart other than Peter Gammons tweeting that the White Sox thought they got an absolute steal in him when they traded Edwin Jackson.

Were these guys good enough to keep Youk in the AL?

[a700hitter]

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What did you expect to get from this deal? Or are you just mad because he didn't go to an NL team? Because if that's it, then you're very much overstating the significance of 1 player changing teams.

If he gets them 1 key win that may be enough to send us home. It was last year. Were these guys good enough to keep him in the AL? Pick two common names, let's say Perez and Wilson. Let's say we got them from some NL team. Surely, there are a bunch of prospects with those names in NL organizations. Would they be so much worse than Lillibridge and Zack whoever the f***?

[Brown28]

I agree. The sox got nada for Youk. THey could have gotten a player like Lillbridge anytime. They should have doen this deal in the offseason and they would have not only done better but resolved a clubhouse issue sooner.

 

The Sox didn't expect Middlebrooks to be this good this early. Cherington said in his presser today that he expected him to stay in AAA most of the year. Middlebrooks came up and took the job away from Youk so thats why there was no trade in the off season, they expected Kevin to start at 3rd all year. Yes we got nothing but it's not like Youk is an MVP candidate this year or anything.

[BornToRun]

If he gets them 1 key win that may be enough to send us home. It was last year. Were these guys good enough to keep him in the AL? Pick two common names' date=' let's say Perez and Wilson. Let's say we got them from some NL team. Surely, there are a bunch of prospects with those names in NL organizations. Would they be so much worse than Lillibridge and Zack whoever the f***?[/quote']

 

I'll take the odds of youk being a middling bat with some pop over the odds of him being the spark to fuel a Chicago playoff run that poetically knocks us out of the race.

[NativeBostonian]

I hope Youk the best. Looks like a addition by subtraction trade. Didn't get anything good in this deal as regards to players.

[a700hitter]

I'll take the odds of youk being a middling bat with some pop over the odds of him being the spark to fuel a Chicago playoff run that poetically knocks us out of the race.

Why take the chance?

[SoxFanForsyth]

Why take the chance?

 

So you would rather eat more money and get less in return to send him to an NL team??

 

Come on man. Have some faith in your own ball club. The Sox have WMB at 3B, are getting last years AL MVP of position players in Ellsbury AND Carl Crawford back at the ASB, Beckett back in a matter of days. They have Franklin Morales who has really come in and been a stud, and if he sticks, he's a well above average 5th man in the rotation.

 

Gonzo is starting to get it going. Pedroia is clearly getting hot. We get Cody Ross back who knocks the piss out of LHP.

 

Like I said - Have some faith in your own guys. If they can't make the PS because of 1 game, it's not going to be because of Youkilis. It's going to be because they couldn't hold a lead in the 9th or the 11th against the Tigers, or because they couldn't hold a 9 run lead against the Yankees, or it'll be because they gave up a 9th inning, go ahead HR to Sean Rodriguiz.

[BornToRun]

So you would rather eat more money and get less in return to send him to an NL team??

 

Come on man. Have some faith in your own ball club. The Sox have WMB at 3B, are getting last years AL MVP of position players in Ellsbury AND Carl Crawford back at the ASB, Beckett back in a matter of days. They have Franklin Morales who has really come in and been a stud, and if he sticks, he's a well above average 5th man in the rotation.

 

Gonzo is starting to get it going. Pedroia is clearly getting hot. We get Cody Ross back who knocks the piss out of LHP.

 

Like I said - Have some faith in your own guys. If they can't make the PS because of 1 game, it's not going to be because of Youkilis. It's going to be because they couldn't hold a lead in the 9th or the 11th against the Tigers, or because they couldn't hold a 9 run lead against the Yankees, or it'll be because they gave up a 9th inning, go ahead HR to Sean Rodriguiz.

 

Can I maybe buy you dinner sometime?

[Reck]

It doesn't really matter who we get or what they can do, Youkilis had to go.

 

I have hope that the Sox will know what to do with what they got for him.

[BornToRun]

If Stewart can get some of the heat back on his fastball, I don't see why he can't become a decent ML pitcher. He's only 25.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Can I maybe buy you dinner sometime?

 

Haha. Of course.

[kapsis21]

wow people will rant no matter what the FO does. for crying out loud you guys are becoming a nuissance. sorry guys. but it had to be said.

what did you expect for the Youk trade. he wasnt staying healhty and after his DL stint he was getting into some cold stints with hitting.

meanwhile the rookie is raking at 3rd base. how can this not be a win win situation for everybody.

 

lets just geton with playing baseball shall we. his trade value wasnt going to go up, and he was blocking Middlebrooks, that is not news. did we sell low.. maybe.

but we had no option. Youk sitting while Middlebrooks playing wasnt going to increase his trade value.

A smarter GM would have really traded Youk before the season started, but that would meant he envisioned Middlebrooks replacing him on day 1 and everyone of you would have cribbed about it if Ben made that move...