Red Sox 2012 Season Overview

[Bellhorn04]

If this team deliberately set out to cause as much misery as possible for its fans this year, it couldn't have done a better job than this.

[SemperFi Sox]

football baby!!!!!!

[jung]

The organization, not the team but the organization set a goal to generate as much revenue as it possibly could...our misery or lack thereof is a mere footnote. Obviously, this is pure opinion on my part.

 

I do think LL needs to go...as soon as possible.

[a700hitter]

The Mariners are playing better than the Red Sox. The lowly Twins beat us twice in a row at home. It's disgusting. If the FO wasn't going to sell at the deadline, they should have done something to shake things up. This BS that they mouth about believing in the team is an insult to the fans and the team. They threw in the towel on the team, but didn't have the balls to have a fire sale, because they want people to keep going to the game and buying their gimmick of the day, whether it be bricks, sod, grass seed, etc.

[Bellhorn04]

Thanks to the new wild card setup and the degree of parity in the league this year, the sub .500 Red Sox are only 4 games out of a playoff spot. So the carrot of hope is still dangled in front of the fans and interest in the season hasn't been snuffed out yet.

[jacksonianmarch]

you gotta walk Mauer here and go after Morneau

[jacksonianmarch]

You have to go to Breslow vs Morneau. Morneau is OPSing .565 vs lefties.

[SoxSport]

The problem with this organization is they haven't recognized the need for change when change was needed.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Season overview: Too many talented players underperforming. Playoffs aren't impossible but we won't make them because this team just doesn't have it.

[SCM33]

The problem with this organization is they haven't recognized the need for change when change was needed.

 

Weird. I said this all offseason last winter.

[SCM33]

Season overview: Too many talented players underperforming. Playoffs aren't impossible but we won't make them because this team just doesn't have it.

 

Playoffs are beyond impossible. Its not happening. It wasn't going to happen from day 1.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

It could have though. Even though they have a worse roster than the 2011 team, they only missed the playoffs due to some crazy ass collapse in September which most likely won't happen again.

[jung]

Won't happen again!!!! It just happened again...the only difference is that they collapsed for the entire season as opposed to just the last month of it. Holy Cow

[a700hitter]

It could have though. Even though they have a worse roster than the 2011 team' date=' they only missed the playoffs due to some crazy ass collapse in September which most likely won't happen again.[/quote']A lot of people thought that it couldn't happen again. I told people during the off season that if they didn't make changes that it was likely to happen again, but it would happen earlier. The 2007 Mets had a September collapse. They made no changes and in 2008 the collapsed again and missed the playoffs on the last day of the season for the second year in a row. We came back with the same team less Papelbon and bard as the 8th inning guy and with two rookie starters in the rotation. We never had a prayer other than our hopes as fans. The guy from WFAN hit it on the head on opening day. We are not a good team. And he is probably right that we will not be a .500 team.

[Thunder]

I think they will get over .500 at some point. They have a good opportunity.

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=bos#y=2012&m=8&calendar=DEFAULT

[3rdManOut]

The Blue Jays (at this point) are in last place and I have more respect for them then I do my own team. Thats saying something and its also very sad.

[Designated Hater]

Look, Larry has less than 30 days to push bricks on "Red Sox Nation" before 35 year old Tom Brady comes back to lead a Patriots team with a weak schedule to at least the AFC championship game.

 

When it's football season, those seats are going to be more empty than they were in 1966. I can't wait to watch THAT debacle unfold on TV.

[Thunder]

Look, Larry has less than 30 days to push bricks on "Red Sox Nation" before 35 year old Tom Brady comes back to lead a Patriots team with a weak schedule to at least the AFC championship game.

 

When it's football season, those seats are going to be more empty than they were in 1966. I can't wait to watch THAT debacle unfold on TV.

 

To be technical, That would only be on Sunday/Monday home games in September, which the Pats only have one of, Week 2 against the lowly Cardinals.

[jacksonianmarch]

No, Thunder, people would rather watch the pats at their own houses than go to the Fens and watch the sox. Plus, the Pats will steal all the press and effectively the sox will go from a bungling house of losers to the forgotten. Good or bad press generates buzz and still keeps the masses flocking to the park. Being forgotten would be the worst thing that could happen to the front office. Heads will roll if the meaningless sell out streak goes by the wayside on some balmy day in mid September

[jung]

Listening to EEI this afternoon, there are still some knuckleheads that do not understand the hole the Red Sox have dug here.

 

Stop concentrating on the number of games out...even games in the lose column. The problem is the number of teams they have to climb over that are all for the most part now playing each other. So under the circumstances it is like the Sox win a game (every once in a blue moon) and two teams they are trying to catch are playing each other. The Sox don't pick up a game. They pick up a half game. Now look again at how many games back they are and you should be able to see the problem. To make headway the Sox basically have to win games at a 2 to 1 rate.....as in 650 or so ball, assuming that two teams do not run off and completely hide with the WC's. They can't play 500 ball without a struggle and suddenly they are going to play 650 ball????

 

The issue is not whether the Sox are mathematically eliminated yet. The issue is what do they have to do to make it in and what are the chances they can do it? The only answer you ever get back to that question is "anything can happen in baseball".....like that is some sort of revelation.

 

Earlier this season, in the first half when they were losing games to chump teams I started to talk about the fact that the Sox were already getting to the point where they would have to play 650 ball to still have a chance at the division. That was a million losses ago. Well I am still waiting....they still show no signs of having the kind of team that can go on that kind of run and now 650 might get them to the WC not the division.

[3rdManOut]

I was thinking...you know how they do that town meeting thing in the off season with the FO? They should do one before the season starts (like they always do I think). Then they should do one like in mid-season to really see how the fans think their team is doing. The FO would really get a sense of just how the fan base really thinks of them. That way we would be in THEIR FACE so to speak and get real answeres. Then again right after the season as well.

 

I don't know its just a thought.

[Thunder]

No' date=' Thunder, people would rather watch the pats at their own houses than go to the Fens and watch the sox. Plus, the Pats will steal all the press and effectively the sox will go from a bungling house of losers to the forgotten. Good or bad press generates buzz and still keeps the masses flocking to the park. Being forgotten would be the worst thing that could happen to the front office. Heads will roll if the meaningless sell out streak goes by the wayside on some balmy day in mid September[/quote']

 

Just for the record, I hate the Pats.

[a700hitter]

Just for the record' date=' I hate the Pats.[/quote']I love the Pats. They beat the Jets and they are the Giants' bitch.

[RedSoxNC84]

For some reason the Sox resigned Podsednik after trading him... I thought they should have kept him in the first place as a serviceable 4th OF in the first place, but it's not like a 4th outfielder is exactly needed..

[a700hitter]

For some reason the Sox resigned Podsednik after trading him... I thought they should have kept him in the first place as a serviceable 4th OF in the first place' date=' but it's not like a 4th outfielder is exactly needed..[/quote']I would have kept him and optioned Nava who had blown his load.

[3rdManOut]

Is it possible that we could just bring up the team from Pawtucket and just switch the teams. At this point the Paw Sox couldn't do any worse right? Heck maybe even win a few more then the team we got right now. Just a thought.

[jung]

You are not far off from right 3rdMan.

 

They really should bring up the few remaining guys that should be up here gaining some experience and showing us their stuff. This season is done.

 

I want to see Iggy up here at this point. Believe me when I tell you that the chance we will ever see Iggy play significant time in a Red Sox uni is slim to none. Any team capable of making the Aviles decision is simply to wrong headed about the SS position to go with Iggy, even if he can hit 240 or so in the majors. Lets get Iggy up here and see how he plays. Maybe the nitwit Red Sox FO will recognize how much of a difference that sort of SS can make. However their utter stupidity about the SS position may just be to much to overcome.

 

Lets have Iggy at SS and Ciriaco at 3rd. Also lets see Ciraico at 2nd with Iggy at SS. If the Sox finally grow some balls and at least consider the kinds of bold moves it will take to bring us a #1 for the rotation, we will likely at least want to have some idea how things might look around here.

 

I want to see Lavs behind the plate...Iggy at SS, Ciriaco playing some 2nd and some 3rd. I want Kalish back up here where he belongs on a team that is headed for nowhere.

 

Sox need to think about what the team might look like if they finally cut ties with Ortiz...a possibility I think unless he is really willing to take less money to get his two year deal. We may want to look at what things would be like without Pedey as much as we love him. He is in my view the only Sox player you could build a multiplayer package around that might get you a #1 for the rotation coming back.

 

Although a lineup with Ellls and Crawford back to back at the top is frankly kinda' problematic (use your eyes folks not your hearts), I don't see the Sox trading Ells. What are they going to get back for him. Keep Ells, try to convince him to stay on a deal that the team can tolerate. If not, let him play out his contract and prepare to see Bradley in CF.

[Orange Juiced]

This Red Sox team is the least likable and most underperforming that I can ever remember. And I've been following them since 1975. It's not the worst team (the '92 team won only 73 games, for example, but that team had an up-and-coming Mo Vaughn and a still-great Roger Clemens - who was fun to root for at that point in time).

 

I do have to admit that during spring training I had the least amount of interest and excitement of any Red Sox team I've ever followed. And, unfortunately, that sense of foreboding has come to fruition.

 

What a colossal cluster**** this season has been, in almost every conceivable way.

[Orange Juiced]

I love the Pats. They beat the Jets and they are the Giants' bitch.

 

Heh. The Giants do seem to have the Pats' number, but geez...

 

- SB 42: the most miraculous catch of all time by Tyree

- regular season, 2011: an amazing catch by Ballard on the game-winning drive

- SB 46: an incredible play by Manningham/Eli on the last drive, and Gronk is *thisclose* to catching the Hail Mary (watch the replay...dude on a broken ankle came within a half-yard of catching that ball)

 

So yes, they have the Pats' number, but man, three plays is all we're talking about here.

 

Still, credit to the Giants - and I mean that sincerely. Very tough team.

[jung]

What a colossal cluster**** this season has been, in almost every conceivable way.

 

Without any rational for believing it will get any better anytime soon as the guys in management and baseball operations are just clueless....complete utter idiots when it comes to the actual game of baseball.