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He should be our 8th inning guy or our closer. Everyone else in the bullpen gets shoved down a notch in terms of when they get into a game. No more clutch situations for Atchison' date=' for example.[/quote']

 

I'd rather have him as our best starter by ERA.

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Atch should not be in clutch situations. That is not the kind of reliever he is. At this point there is nothing to prove or disprove. Don't put him in those situations.
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BV looks like hes starting to get more comfortable with his players.....

 

 

and I have to say, I HATE THE FACT that Punto wears #5. What a disgrace to that number.

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5 run lead isn't a clutch situation.

 

This is why numbers aren't the only things that matter.

 

That was a clutch situation.

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Its not going to happen. Get past it.

 

Maybe Cook comes up and Clay goes to the pen to work s*** out, but Bard is not going to the pen.

 

I know its not going to happen. Many of the Boston beat writers have also been calling for that move for a long time...Mazz, Cafardo etc. Its a testament to the stupidity or our FO IMO.

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Actually I asked earlier cause I left for a couple of minutes so I apologize for not knowing...Did Atch start that as a clean inning or did he come in to it?
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I know its not going to happen. Many of the Boston beat writers have also been calling for that move for a long time...Mazz' date=' Cafardo etc. Its a testament to the stupidity or our FO IMO.[/quote']

 

That would ring truer if Bard wasn't leading our starters in ERA.

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This is why numbers aren't the only things that matter.

 

That was a clutch situation.

 

8th inning, no runners on, not a clutch situation.

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Actually I asked earlier cause I left for a couple of minutes so I apologize for not knowing...Did Atch start that as a clean inning or did he come in to it?

 

He started it clean.

 

It wasn't his best night.

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This is why numbers aren't the only things that matter.

 

That was a clutch situation.

 

You didn't get his point . I think he.meant a 5 run lead shouldn't be a clutch situation but it turned out to be one. Against a meek lineup.

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8th inning' date=' no runners on, not a clutch situation.[/quote']

 

Sorry, you didn't quote what you were talking about so I thought you were talking about Pedey's DP.

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I know its not going to happen. Many of the Boston beat writers have also been calling for that move for a long time...Mazz' date=' Cafardo etc. Its a testament to the stupidity or our FO IMO.[/quote']

 

Its not the FO anymore.

 

Its Bard. All he has to say is "I want the ball in the 9th".

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I'd rather have him as our best starter by ERA.

 

I completely understand that there are other opinions among knowledgable baseball fans. I don't agree with that opinion, obviously. Our bullpen needs more help that our starting rotation, and there is only one Daniel Bard.

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The garbage that we have in the pig pen is not adequate. It just isn't. This garbage is not going to round into shape. The talent is not there. What is Cherrington waiting for?
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He should be our 8th inning guy or our closer. Everyone else in the bullpen gets shoved down a notch in terms of when they get into a game. No more clutch situations for Atchison' date=' for example.[/quote']

Like it or not, Atchison, or someone like him is going to pitch the 8th at home with a 5-run lead. If you pitch Bard out of the BP in that situation regularly, he won't be available in more critical situations.

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I completely understand that there are other opinions among knowledgable baseball fans. I don't agree with that opinion' date=' obviously. Our bullpen needs more help that our starting rotation, and there is only one Daniel Bard.[/quote']

 

The starting rotation is sufficiently more important than the bullpen, that pulling a good, effective starter out of the rotation to help the pen is a terrible idea.

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Its not the FO anymore.

 

Its Bard. All he has to say is "I want the ball in the 9th".

 

Really.

So Bard is in charge now? I sure hope not.

And BTW: Valentine should talk to Bucky about showing him up tonite when he came out to get him.

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Thanks Doj that is a real disappointment. That is really the only thing Atch has done well...till tonight. He had done well in clean innings that he has started off. Now he is in the Fat Albers running for Mr. Most inconsistent no idea what the f*** you are going to get guy.
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Thanks Doj that is a real disappointment. That is really the only thing Atch has done well...till tonight. He had done well in clean innings that he has started off. Now he is in the Fat Albers running for Mr. Most inconsistent no idea what the f*** you are going to get guy.

 

Ehh, relievers are inconsistent. If they were consistent they'd be starters.

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The starting rotation is sufficiently more important than the bullpen' date=' that pulling a good, effective starter out of the rotation to help the pen is a terrible idea.[/quote']On the other hand a lousy starter can only blow 1 out of 5 games. The lousy relievers can blow the other 4 games.
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Like it or not' date=' Atchison, or someone like him is going to pitch the 8th at home with a 5-run lead. If you pitch Bard out of the BP in that situation regularly, he won't be available in more critical situations.[/quote']

 

And Bard sucks in back to back games.

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Really.

So Bard is in charge now? I sure hope not.

And BTW: Valentine should talk to Bucky about showing him up tonite when he came out to get him.

 

 

He really needs to say something about it publicly, he can't let these guys do that crap.

 

Ask Tito.

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The starting rotation is sufficiently more important than the bullpen' date=' that pulling a good, effective starter out of the rotation to help the pen is a terrible idea.[/quote']

 

We will soon have seven healthy SP. Who should be in the bullpen? Who should be released? What do we do with Cook and DiceK?

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Actually Pumps I don't think Buch was showing V up. I think he was so disappointed in himself that he could not even lift his head and look V in the eyes.

 

Remember what V said when he sent Iggy down? I wonder if we just saw a repeat of that.

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Really.

So Bard is in charge now? I sure hope not.

And BTW: Valentine should talk to Bucky about showing him up tonite when he came out to get him.

 

BV will just say something to the media and backtrack. What's the point?

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We will soon have seven healthy SP. Who should be in the bullpen? Who should be released? What do we do with Cook and DiceK?

 

 

Everyone still clamoring for Dice-K.

 

You'll be sorry, especially if he goes to the pen.

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