Ortiz

[SoxSport]

if it goes to arb the contract is not guaranteed' date=' i think they could cut him and be on the hook for 1/6 of the contract, which if he signs for 15 million would be just over 2 million.[/quote']

 

Nice twist there. They need money to shore up the pitching without going over the luxury tax

ceiling.

Papi isn't going to be a deciding factor where they finish in 2012. It will be the pitching.

[jung]

A handshake agreement is no longer something a team has to work out with a player relative to arbitration. However I don't know if that is one of the rules that is going to be implemented mid-year next year or now. That last I saw, there was going to be something of a half of the new and half of the old formula for dates of implementation of the new compensation and arbitration rules. With end June beginning July 2012 being the date period when all of the new rules will be implemented. Does anybody have anything on the new arbitration stuff and when it is officially implemented? Is it one of the new rules that comes in now or is it one of them that is being left for mid year 2012?

 

I have not seen a list yet of the breakdown but somebody else might have.

[FredLynn]

Nice twist there. They need money to shore up the pitching without going over the luxury tax

ceiling.

Papi isn't going to be a deciding factor where they finish in 2012. It will be the pitching.

 

Minor correction: it will be the LACK of pitching.

[iortiz]

Well, our top 3 better stay healthy and give us at least +-200 IP, otherwise, going to be a loooooong season.

 

Btw Wheeler is back, right?

[jacksonianmarch]

No, he declined arb

[iortiz]

No' date=' he declined arb[/quote']

 

Pfff... We sign a guy like Miller and let go Wheeler?

[seabeachfred]

Pfff... We sign a guy like Miller and let go Wheeler?

 

It's called thinking with your ass instead of thinking with your head amigo. Listen iortiz, I will gladly back down and take it back if you can tell me why they would sign a bum like Miller who can't pitch effectively as a starter and is too wild to relieve, and then let a decent reliever like Wheeler walk. It's as if Lucchino and Benny the Bozo have taken complete leave of their senses.

[seabeachfred]

Pfff... We sign a guy like Miller and let go Wheeler?

[iortiz]

It's called thinking with your ass instead of thinking with your head amigo. Listen iortiz' date=' I will gladly back down and take it back if you can tell me why they would sign a bum like Miller who can't pitch effectively as a starter and is too wild to relieve, and then let a decent reliever like Wheeler walk. It's as if Lucchino and Benny the Bozo have taken complete leave of their senses.[/quote']

 

Somehow I counted with him in the roster...

 

Hell, How much was he asking? What happened? I mean he's not the plus ultra reliever but given our lack of pitching he would have fit fine.

 

We'll see how Benny the bozo? build this team.