JD Drew

[Dawgma]

Aside from a good June... BLAH!

 

Bye sport, enjoy the money you rooked the Sox for.. Send Theo a Thank You Card.

 

The perfect swing that never was............

[Gringo]

We went from Trot Nixon to JD Drew. They probably have similar numbers, and Drew was a better baserunner and fielder.....but who would you rather pick for your team?

[Emmz]

Hard to take these Drew threads seriously, might has well lock this one, I think the original poster knows that these JD Drew fights get out of hand all the time as well. Just look at his post history.

[SoxSport]

Why is there a thread on J.D.Drew? He is no longer a Red Sox player, and he doesn't stand a chance in hell of being resigned.

[InfernoOrangeSS]

I always liked JD. I remember when he hit that grand slam against Cleveland. I remember the times that the team was struggling and it seemed like he was the only hot hitter. I know he has an extensive injury history. I just liked how he approached the game. .

 

:dunno:

[Emmz]

No one ever appreciated the fact that he made up for his injured time with awesome play when healthy. Yeah he sucked in his final season, but that shouldn't win out over 4 seasons of being one of the better offensive outfielders in the league. From 2007-2010 his line was .270/.377/.476 (120 OPS+).

 

With those numbers, only playing 130 games per season doesn't really matter.

[Dojji]

We went from Trot Nixon to JD Drew. They probably have similar numbers' date=' and Drew was a better baserunner and fielder.....but who would you rather pick for your team?[/quote']

 

Well they're both fragile, both missed a ton of time what with this and that, both have extremely overrated reputations, and Drew's performance was a more obvious factor in winning the 07 ring than Nixon's could possibly have been in 04 considering he missed most of that season and Nixon was a virtual nonfactor in the critical Yankees series (.552 OPS from the dutt dawg in the most important games in Red Sox history -- at least Drew hit in the postseason).

 

In short I find Nixon incredibly overrated by this fanbase and his contribution is by no means a match for Drew's.

 

JD wasn't a superstar for us, but for the love of sanity, there is no point in dragging him down this way. He was a good player for the preponderance of his Boston tenure.

[SoxSport]

Drew's $14M salary last year was the easiest $14M made last year in baseball. He never even had to try.

Lowell got a nice freebie year his last year too, along with Schilling.

 

The money excesses in baseball are mind staggering--rivaling those Wall St swaps swindlers.

[Dawgma]

Hard to take these Drew threads seriously' date=' might has well lock this one, I think the original poster knows that these JD Drew fights get out of hand all the time as well. Just look at his post history.[/quote']

 

Judging from your number of posts and looking at your avatar pic... That pretty much sums you up Emmz.

[User Name]

You're kind of a douche aren't you?

[FredLynn]

No one ever appreciated the fact that he made up for his injured time with awesome play when healthy. Yeah he sucked in his final season, but that shouldn't win out over 4 seasons of being one of the better offensive outfielders in the league. From 2007-2010 his line was .270/.377/.476 (120 OPS+).

 

With those numbers, only playing 130 games per season doesn't really matter.

 

Drew never had more than 78 RBIs in a season. That is simply not good enough. Furthermore, while other guys gutted it out and played or at least tried to play hurt sometimes, Drew refused to do that. I remember one time when he had to be ordered to play by Francona because the team was short of OF (can't remember all the other details, but that stuck in my mind as an example of his softness). I will not miss JD Drew.

[Laser Show]

I'll miss Drew. While he was injury prone, he was an effective RF. He was still above average while he played. I think the reason everybody hates on him is that he was overpaid. $8-10M for his production wouldn't have been as big of a deal.

[a700hitter]

Drew never had more than 78 RBIs in a season. That is simply not good enough. Furthermore' date=' while other guys gutted it out and played or at least tried to play hurt sometimes, Drew refused to do that. I remember one time when he had to be ordered to play by Francona because the team was short of OF (can't remember all the other details, but that stuck in my mind as an example of his softness). I will not miss JD Drew.[/quote']I think he hurt himself while hitting a HR on his HR trot. I had never seen such a thing. My recollection is that the HR gave the Sox the lead and Francona had no OFers left on the bench. He'd already used a pitcher as a pinch runner. Drew finished the game and the missed 10 days or 2 weeks. He was as soft as any player that I have watched. It was so frustrating, because he was so talented.

[Emmz]

Drew never had more than 78 RBIs in a season. That is simply not good enough. Furthermore' date=' while other guys gutted it out and played or at least tried to play hurt sometimes, Drew refused to do that. I remember one time when he had to be ordered to play by Francona because the team was short of OF (can't remember all the other details, but that stuck in my mind as an example of his softness). I will not miss JD Drew.[/quote']

 

RBIs? Really dude?

[Emmz]

I think he hurt himself while hitting a HR on his HR trot. I had never seen such a thing. My recollection is that the HR gave the Sox the lead and Francona had no OFers left on the bench. He'd already used a pitcher as a pinch runner. Drew finished the game and the missed 10 days or 2 weeks. He was as soft as any player that I have watched. It was so frustrating' date=' because he was so talented.[/quote']

 

Yeah we've heard it already, Drew's a pussy, so what. He was worth well above what he was being paid when he was healthy, and overall, he was a success in Boston.

[jacksonianmarch]

Most sox fans dislike him because me missed the equivalent of 1.25 seasons with injury time over 5 seasons. He wasnt durable and he was awful in 3 of his 5 seasons.

[Emmz]

No, he was above average in 4 of his 5 seasons, and elite in 2 of those. Don't even try.

[Elktonnick]

Yeah we've heard it already' date=' Drew's a pussy, so what. He was worth well above what he was being paid when he was healthy, and overall, he was a success in Boston.[/quote']

 

HUH! " When he was healthy!" When was that? He had one good month in June of 08 I think it was. Listen to guys like Lou Merloni who played the game. I find his opinion of Drew really insightful.

[SCM33]

JD Drew.....and elite should NEVER be in the same sentence.

[Emmz]

He played on average 130 games, I'm content with that. The Sox knew he was fragile when they got him.

[SCM33]

He played on average 130 games' date=' I'm content with that. The Sox knew he was fragile when they got him.[/quote']

 

Actually, 121 games....which means he missed an average of 41 games a year.

[Emmz]

JD Drew.....and elite should NEVER be in the same sentence.

 

 

I'd like to see a rational argument from any one of you that actually provides stats, but I fear I'll never get the chance to see that happen.

[Emmz]

Actually' date=' 121 games....which means he missed an average of 41 games a year.[/quote']

 

Yeah, I was counting his first 4 years, not last year.

[Elktonnick]

He played on average 130 games' date=' I'm content with that. The Sox knew he was fragile when they got him.[/quote']

 

Because they knew he was fragile excuses the fact that this guy never palyed up to his potential. (Not my words, Tony Larussa's)

[Emmz]

HUH! " When he was healthy!" When was that? He had one good month in June of 08 I think it was. Listen to guys like Lou Merloni who played the game. I find his opinion of Drew really insightful.

 

Still waiting to hear actual stats that show Drew to suck, rather than a bunch of baby-boomers waiting for the days of the Dirt Dogs to return.

[Elktonnick]

Still waiting to hear actual stats that show Drew to suck' date=' rather than a bunch of baby-boomers waiting for the days of the Dirt Dogs to return.[/quote']

 

Check his stats for the last two years. He only made the all star team one year 2008 after the great June. While he was good defensive RFer he played way below his talent level because he never gave a rat's ass. That's why he sucked. When you speak of elite RFers in recent Red Sox history Dewey Evens comes to mind not JD Drew.

[jacksonianmarch]

 

I'd like to see a rational argument from any one of you that actually provides stats, but I fear I'll never get the chance to see that happen.

 

2007, 2010, and 2011 combined...

 

1192AB 175R 303H 60-2B 7-3B 46HR 172BB .254/.348/.432 good for a .780OPS out of your starting RFer, in a big market, in the AL East. For 3 seasons, he was invisible. For 1 season he was awesome. For another season, he was awesome for 109 games. He was below average offensively in 60% of his seasons.

[Emmz]

No one was comparing Dwight to Drew, for one. I know his stats for the first four years, this is what this about, not the time where he was admittedly over the hill. He was an offensive powerhouse with the Red Sox, the stats side with me. Why can't the Drew hate crew ever just recognize credit, and give credit where it's due. Most of us on the Drew defense team admit he was junk for last last part of 2010, and for the entirety of the 2011. That's because the stats aren't lying. Just like they don't lie that he was one of the best RF in baseball for a goo 3 years with the Red Sox, and a huge part of the world series run on top of that.

 

I'm still waiting for some stats. Bring it.

[SCM33]

 

I'd like to see a rational argument from any one of you that actually provides stats, but I fear I'll never get the chance to see that happen.

 

You called him elite, you show me his "elite" stats. Elite is Albert Pujols, Barry Bonds, Miguel Cabrera.........those guys are elite.

 

I didnt say he sucked, just that he wasnt elite, thats all.

 

BTW, Elite players stay on the field. Had JD stayed on the field and played to his "the natural" potential, his end production would have been MUCH better.

 

The guy had hall of fame talent, I wont argue that. Elite, means one of the best. JD Drew was not one of the best. He was very good for a couple of seasons.

[jacksonianmarch]

I just did.