Speculation: Grady Sizemore

[Gringo]

I know, do we really want another guy named Grady anywhere near our club?

 

Nonetheless, Drew is gone, and now The Herald is saying we have interest in Sizemore:

 

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/red_sox/view/2011_1101sizemore_may_be_right_fit_oft-injured_free_agent_could_replace_drew/

 

He's still only 29, but he's fragile, and he'll be more expensive than Josh Reddick.

 

I'm on the fence, to be honest.

[BigPapiEnFuego]

This would be stupid.

[InfernoOrangeSS]

I could see it happening much like we did with Adrian Beltre's contract.

[mvp 78]

This would be stupid.

 

Another LH garbage outfielder? No thanks.

 

Just let Reddick and Kalish fight it out.

[a700hitter]

I could see it happening much like we did with Adrian Beltre's contract.

But Beltre was not fragile.

 

I don't see the need for a fragile LH hitting outfielder.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Sizemore has averaged 70 games per season over the past 3 seasons. Over the past 2 years, he's hit .220/.280/.379.

 

In 2011, vs LHP, he hit .183/.244/.338.

In 2010, vs LHP, he hit .122/.204/.122.

 

He's a huge hole in an already LH heavy lineup.

[example1]

I'm on board with this move if it is low cost enough. Sign him and move one of the youngsters for pitching.

 

Sizemore was one of the best players in the league before the injuries and was actually a very hearty player with almost 162 games per season for awhile. Low risk high reward if you ask me, especially if they also get a guy like Cudduyer who can also play some IF positions and RF as needed.

[SoxSport]

Unless they're going to trade Reddick or Kalish, it's hard to see them adding another LHd outfielder--especially a player like Sizemore with chronic knee issues. Same goes with Beltran, though Carlos had a pretty sound year. And he can bat right-handed and DH some. More versatile than Sizemore, though older.

 

I'd pass on both these guys, and rely on the farm system. Kalish should be healthy again, and he showed enough 2 years ago to be ready even last year. Bill James thought so, but the Sox had a logjam in RF. No sense in creating another logjam.

[Palodios]

I'm on board with this move if it is low cost enough. Sign him and move one of the youngsters for pitching.

 

Sizemore was one of the best players in the league before the injuries and was actually a very hearty player with almost 162 games per season for awhile. Low risk high reward if you ask me, especially if they also get a guy like Cudduyer who can also play some IF positions and RF as needed.

 

Cuddyer may be out of the Red Sox's price range. Last I checked, he is the best OF available who isn't a huge health risk. He has also played at 1B, 2B, 3B, RF, and CF in the last 18 months, which makes him very versatile, thus valuable. I would not be surprised if he is the consolation prize in the 1B sweepstakes.

[User Name]

I'm on board with this move if it is low cost enough. Sign him and move one of the youngsters for pitching.

 

Sizemore was one of the best players in the league before the injuries and was actually a very hearty player with almost 162 games per season for awhile. Low risk high reward if you ask me, especially if they also get a guy like Cudduyer who can also play some IF positions and RF as needed.

 

How would he be low risk? He would require a significant investment, is very frail due to his chronic knee issues, and how do you realistically get him and Cuddyer?

 

Sizemore has also shown an inability to hit lefties throughout his career (.691 career OPS against them) exacerbating a potential weakness against lefty pitching for the Sox lineup next year.

 

Pass. Without thinking twice about it.

[seabeachfred]

Run as fast as you can from this and faster if necessary. We don't need another left hand hitting outfielder on this team, especially one who has never hit southpaw pitching worth a damn. We need a RH hitting outfielder and Michael Cuddyer is the one we need in my opinion. Besides being a guy who can give you some decent power and run production he is versatile as hell. He can play a ton of positions if necessary and I take it he hit southpaw pitching, something very important in the heavily southpaw AL East. Hey Cherington take a walk away from this as fast as you can.

[Laser Show]

Run as fast as you can from this and faster if necessary. We don't need another left hand hitting outfielder on this team' date=' especially one who has never hit southpaw pitching worth a damn. We need a RH hitting outfielder and Michael Cuddyer is the one we need in my opinion. Besides being a guy who can give you some decent power and run production he is versatile as hell. He can play a ton of positions if necessary and I take it he hit southpaw pitching, something very important in the heavily southpaw AL East. Hey Cherington take a walk away from this as fast as you can.[/quote']

 

If we go after one of these FA RFs, are we seriously letting Reddick and/or Kalish ride the bench for yet another year?

 

 

I'd be trying to put together a megadeal with the Dodgers. We need RH power. We need pitching. We need Pedroia to be happy with his buddy Ethier.

 

Buchholz, Ellsbury, Reddick, Anderson, Doubront, Bogaerts

for

Kemp, Ethier, Kershaw.

 

Come at me.

[User Name]

Yeah, that's not happening.

[Laser Show]

Yeah' date=' that's not happening.[/quote']

 

I know, but I can dream can't I?

 

Sidenote: I think we have the pieces to pull a Kemp or Ethier deal, but I know there's no way Kershaw is leaving LA.

[User Name]

I don't think Kemp is realistic either. Ethier is probably a more plausible target, but then again, he's another guy coming off of injury who's had problems handling lefties.

[Laser Show]

I don't think Kemp is realistic either. Ethier is probably a more plausible target' date=' but then again, he's another guy coming off of injury who's had problems handling lefties.[/quote']

 

And he just happens to be another LH bat at the top of the lineup.

[Meh]

A one year $6 million deal with 2 to 3 mill in incentives would be a steal. If you put him in LF or RF he wouldn't have to go all out on a ball and get hurt so often. I'd love him in RF at Yankee stadium. Sure he swings at everything like Vlad but he'd be a nice fourth outfielder for any club.

[Meh]

If we go after one of these FA RFs, are we seriously letting Reddick and/or Kalish ride the bench for yet another year?

 

 

I'd be trying to put together a megadeal with the Dodgers. We need RH power. We need pitching. We need Pedroia to be happy with his buddy Ethier.

 

Buchholz, Ellsbury, Reddick, Anderson, Doubront, Bogaerts

for

Kemp, Ethier, Kershaw.

 

Come at me.

 

Come at you? that package could probably get Kemp... and thats just Kemp. Kershaw's price should probably be more than Felix too. Take Ellsbury and Bogaerts out and do that deal for Either tho. He'd be a nice addition to your club.

[User Name]

Come at you? that package could probably get Kemp... and thats just Kemp. Kershaw's price should probably be more than Felix too. Take Ellsbury and Bogaerts out and do that deal for Either tho. He'd be a nice addition to your club.

 

Nice addition to a club trying desperately to get a RH corner OF because the lineup is too LH? Dude hits lefties at a .661 clip for his career.

[Palodios]

Come at you? that package could probably get Kemp... and thats just Kemp. Kershaw's price should probably be more than Felix too. Take Ellsbury and Bogaerts out and do that deal for Either tho. He'd be a nice addition to your club.

 

Ethier, an impending free agent, is not worth a cost controlled Buchholz.

[Rdsxmbnt]

not to mention Ellsbury was a top 3 player in baseball last year...

[SoxSport]

It's a shame Ethier doesn't bat RHd. He'd be a fit.

 

I think they want a RHd bat to play part-time in RF and DH.

 

I would not be surprised if they let Ortiz go. They can't sign anyone without increasing their payroll

beyond $160M--especially if they sign Pap.

[User Name]

It's a shame Ethier doesn't bat RHd. He'd be a fit.

 

I think they want a RHd bat to play part-time in RF and DH.

 

I would not be surprised if they let Ortiz go. They can't sign anyone without increasing their payroll beyond $160M--especially if they sign Pap.

 

Cherington publicly stated this like a week ago.

[Elktonnick]

And the red sox need another left handed hitting outfielder because?????

[Laser Show]

And the red sox need another left handed hitting outfielder because?????

 

We have 2 in the wings, if really doesn't matter if we get another. A RH RF would obviously be better, but an upgrade is an upgrade. Do we move Reddick or Kalish if we sign Sizemore?

 

I was a huge fan of Sizemore when he first came up. I thought he'd be about where Kemp is now. If he can even get to being a .280/25/25 guy I'd be happy. I just don't know how much of his speed (his best asset) has been sapped.

 

Also, Beltran is no longer a Boras client, so who knows what happens there.

[User Name]

We have 2 in the wings, if really doesn't matter if we get another. A RH RF would obviously be better, but an upgrade is an upgrade. Do we move Reddick or Kalish if we sign Sizemore?

 

I was a huge fan of Sizemore when he first came up. I thought he'd be about where Kemp is now. If he can even get to being a .280/25/25 guy I'd be happy. I just don't know how much of his speed (his best asset) has been sapped.

 

Also, Beltran is no longer a Boras client, so who knows what happens there.

 

So because the team has too much of something, it's okay to add to the logjam? I don't see the sense in that.

 

Also, consider this:

 

Over the last three years Sizemore has played 210 games (average 70 per year) with a .234/.314/.413 slash line, which Reddick surpassed last year, and he will make a fraction of what Sizemore is primed to get, so he is not an upgrade in any sense of the word. If a team wants to take the chance on him fine, but he doesn't fit with the Red Sox.

[Laser Show]

So because the team has too much of something, it's okay to add to the logjam? I don't see the sense in that.

 

Also, consider this:

 

Over the last three years Sizemore has played 210 games (average 70 per year) with a .234/.314/.413 slash line, which Reddick surpassed last year, and he will make a fraction of what Sizemore is primed to get, so he is not an upgrade in any sense of the word. If a team wants to take the chance on him fine, but he doesn't fit with the Red Sox.

 

I fully agree. But we have no say in what goes on in the FO, which is a reason to discuss these rumors. If they sign Sizemore, then they very well may be discussing a trade for SP help involving Reddick, Kalish, or even Ellsbury. Thing is, we don't know.

[User Name]

I fully agree. But we have no say in what goes on in the FO' date=' which is a reason to discuss these rumors. If they sign Sizemore, then they very well may be discussing a trade for SP help involving Reddick, Kalish, or even Ellsbury. Thing is, we don't know.[/quote']

 

I contend that, to a certain extent, we do. They're doing due diligence on him but in reality, this FO has always had a huge boner for Carlos Beltran. That is undeniable. There's a good chance he's the prime target.

[Elktonnick]

If FO concentrates on pitching both starting and in the pen then as part of that process issues in the day to day lineup will sort themselves out. This team had no problem scoring runs and yet didn't make the playoffs. Concentrate on the important not a relatively mariginal problem like another outfielder.

[Laser Show]

I wouldn't argue a Beltran signing as long as it's not to a JD Drew-like deal. We do need a RH bat, and he proved last year that he still has it. If we can rotate him through the DH spot too, it might turn out into a good signing. I just don't see Beltran going for a 1-2 year deal.