2012 Who will be our manager?

[Elktonnick]

Cherington: "Do you know how to use a computer?"

Sveum: "Nope. Never owned one. I just take orders from my bosses and wave people home a lot"

 

Definitely an ID-ten-T error message waiting! Heh ? Pumps

[jung]

I don't want a manager who's name I will continually misspell....Swam....Swim......Sveum does not necessarily flow under your fingers on the keyboard.

[Elktonnick]

I don't want a manager who's name I will continually misspell....Swam....Swim......Sveum does not necessarily flow under your fingers on the keyboard.

 

Actuallyto grammatically correct SVEUM is the pluperfect past subjective of the verb SWIM.

[mvp 78]

Funny because I bet Sveum could make all the posters here look like mental midgets when it comes to baseball.

 

Honestly, I enjoyed GoBruins2010-2011 more than some of the newer posters.

[User Name]

Word around the internet says he's highly respected wherever he goes because of his baseball IQ, which is said to be "extremely high".

[Elktonnick]

Word around the internet says he's highly respected wherever he goes because of his baseball IQ' date=' which is said to be "extremely high".[/quote']

 

You know you can only believe about half of what is written on the internet! Especially on baseball forums.

[User Name]

You know you can only believe about half of what is written on the internet! Especially on baseball forums.

 

Not baseball forums. I read a piece on him written by a baseball writer if that's what you're referring to. Hard to pick up humor over the interwebs.

[Elktonnick]

Not baseball forums. I read a piece on him written by a baseball writer if that's what you're referring to. Hard to pick up humor over the interwebs.

I was joking.! I guess if you have to explain a joke it isn't funny. I guess I have no future as gag writer. I'll have to go back to my day job teaching statistics and theoretical mathematicsl (just kidding)

[a700hitter]

Funny because I bet Sveum could make all the posters here look like mental midgets when it comes to baseball.

 

Honestly, I enjoyed GoBruins2010-2011 more than some of the newer posters.

Yeah sure. He can't even remember how many outs there are. Francona will look like John McGraw and Connie Mack rolled into.

[seabeachfred]

I just find it hard to believe that they're about to choose a new manager who's most remembered for sending runners to be thrown out at home.

 

Ron, it's the trials and travails of being a Red Sox fan. We've seen this act before and if you've been a fan of this team longer than I have (11 years) you've seen even more. Read Pumpsie's skit and you might have all the reason you need. The impression is there that they do not want a strong manager and in Sveum they'll be guaranteed to get just what they want.

[mvp 78]

Yeah sure. He can't even remember how many outs there are. Francona will look like John McGraw and Connie Mack rolled into.

 

More hyperbole, how surprising...

[SoxSport]

I guess Sveum's "baseball IQ" was just too high for him to be a good 3B coach.

[VA Sox Fan]

More hyperbole' date=' how surprising...[/quote']

 

 

The decision is as anything, out of our control. Hoping/Wishing for the best out of whoever they hire. No monkey-ing around

[VA Sox Fan]

I guess Sveum's "baseball IQ" was just too high for him to be a good 3B coach.

 

We can only hope and pray!

[mvp 78]

I guess Sveum's "baseball IQ" was just too high for him to be a good 3B coach.

 

Managing skills and 3rd base coaching skills don't overlap all that much. A great 3rd base coach could be a horrible manager. A great manager could be a horrible 3rd base coach.

 

LOL

 

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[a700hitter]

More hyperbole' date=' how surprising...[/quote']Sveum has no idea what that means.

[User Name]

I guess Sveum's "baseball IQ" was just too high for him to be a good 3B coach.

 

You can go and manage the Red Sox yourself.....oh wait......

[FredLynn]

Funny because I bet Sveum could make all the posters here look like mental midgets when it comes to baseball.

 

Honestly, I enjoyed GoBruins2010-2011 more than some of the newer posters.

 

He might be the smartest guy around, but will he be forceful enough to stand up to Cherington and Lucchino-and the players-if he thinks he is right?

I have no idea what his baseball IQ is; hopefully its much higher than mine. It should be, just as my "pediatrician IQ" should be much higher than his. He gets a shot at it. I am reserving judgement for now and joking a bit about it. Lets see how it plays out.

[a700hitter]

I can understand that player moves take some time to develop in the off season. There are lots of considerations. The players need to gauge the market as well as the FO. Those negotiations can be prolonged. A team's plan has to be modified at times when other teams sign your targets. I also understand that Theo's compensation is taking a long time. We really have no leverage, and the Cubs have no motivation to make a deal when they can wait for gutless Selig to come in and award us a chicago dog and some ivy to plant on the green monster.

 

I can't understand what is taking so long on the managerial front. LaRussa retired three weeksor more after Tito got fired, and the Cardinals already have a manger in place. There are few moving parts in this process. The pool is known. There is little or no negotiation as to salary. Do some interviews. Have an internal meeting or two or three and hire a manger. People get upset when I insult the intelligence of managers as a group, but joking aside they are for lack of a better term-- a fairly fungible group.

[seabeachfred]

At the risk of being called chicken little by one of my colleagues on this board I still insist as you do 700 that there is no rhyme or reason for not having a manager and coaching staff in place by now. Players could come at the end of the month, December and maybe even well in January but the board of strategy should hav been in place by now. There's that old saying that it all starts at the top. To the Red Sox it should mean that we get the manager settled in and then work our way down to personnel where the more important parts to the puzzle are located.....the players.

[a700hitter]

At the risk of being called chicken little by one of my colleagues on this board I still insist as you do 700 that there is no rhyme or reason for not having a manager and coaching staff in place by now. Players could come at the end of the month' date=' December and maybe even well in January but the board of strategy should hav been in place by now. There's that old saying that it all starts at the top. To the Red Sox it should mean that we get the manager settled in and then work our way down to personnel where the more important parts to the puzzle are located.....the players.[/quote']

Hiring a manager is not a huge arduous task. There's no secret formula involved or any rare skill set that is needed.

[User Name]

I love it when fans talk like they actually know how things work inside a baseball organization.

[Elktonnick]

Hiring a manager is not a huge arduous task. There's no secret formula involved or any rare skill set that is needed.

 

Dale Sveum certainly has the above: neither secret formula nor any rare skill set. Wasn't he ther guy who lost track of the number of outs during the time he coached third?

[BigPapiEnFuego]

I love it when fans talk like they actually know how things work inside a baseball organization.

 

Do you happen to know something they don't?

 

These guys are all making good points. I don't get how some people on this board seem to misconstrue having thoughts and opinions on the organization as someone factually knowing what is going on in the organization.

[User Name]

Do you happen to know something they don't?

 

These guys are all making good points. I don't get how some people on this board seem to misconstrue having thoughts and opinions on the organization as someone factually knowing what is going on in the organization.

 

That's not what i mean.

 

What i mean is that we don't know the process by which the Red Sox handle this types of situations.

 

They are a private organization, much like any other. Some organizations will do "some" research on employees, some will build a case on a prospective employee.

 

We don't know what the organization actually values or is looking for in a manager, but saying that they're sitting on their thumbs, or that choosing a manager is a simple thing don't actually know how the process works. I'm not saying i do, but for God's sakes, that doesn't mean they're not working on it.

 

Remember 2003-04? That was also a process that dragged out a significant amount of time, but wasn't as publicized. They are probably following the same protocol, and had 2011 not ended as it did, we probably wouldn't even be talking about it.

 

It'll happen when it happens. They will do it at their pace, and there's nothing we can do about it.

[a700hitter]

Do you happen to know something they don't?

 

These guys are all making good points. I don't get how some people on this board seem to misconstrue having thoughts and opinions on the organization as someone factually knowing what is going on in the organization.

I think it is legitimate to ask why the Cards have already hired a manager when LaRussa retired 3 weeks or more after Tito got fired. I don't think the Cardinals take it any less seriously. They are a top organization with 2 championships in the last 5 seasons.

[User Name]

Terry Francona hiring process:

 

2004:

 

Terry Francona meets with the Red Sox: November 3.

 

Terry Francona goes for follow-up session: November 18.

 

Terry Francona gets second interview: November 19.

 

Terry Francona takes physical: November 26.

 

Terry Francona is officially announced as manager: December 04.

 

 

They have a process that they have laid out, and will probably not alter it because fans are losing sleep over it.

 

By the way, not having a manager in place didn't stop Curt Schilling from expressing his interest to go to the Sox, and Foulke's negotiations were very advanced by the time the Sox announced Francona.

[mvp 78]

s***, 12/4 is only 3 weeks away!!!!!! What are they waiting for????????

[FredLynn]

At the risk of being called chicken little by one of my colleagues on this board I still insist as you do 700 that there is no rhyme or reason for not having a manager and coaching staff in place by now. Players could come at the end of the month' date=' December and maybe even well in January but the board of strategy should hav been in place by now. There's that old saying that it all starts at the top. To the Red Sox it should mean that we get the manager settled in and then work our way down to personnel where the more important parts to the puzzle are located.....the players.[/quote']

 

My guess is that Luccino and Cherington decided some time ago (and maybe even made an offer) to Sveum, and that it is Sveum who is holding things up trying to decide if he wants to manage in Chicago or in Boston.

[example1]

Twitter blowing up with reports of Sveum being offered Cubs job, likely to take it. Interesting.

 

Wonder what the Sox play is here. They knew others were looking. Could have offered it to him by now if they were overwhelemed by him.