2012 Who will be our manager?

[SoxSport]

Yea I agree about Chicago. Probably makes the money prohibitive to begin with since money is probably one of the few tools a team has to try to pry a guy away from a place that he already prefers.

 

Wonder if that first call to the agent in a case like this tends to be "Hey are we just wasting our time here? Will the player even entertain an offer?" Sorta makes ya' wonder though. Trying to pry a guy away sounds like a sure way to overpay and it is already a pretty thin FA season for SP. Buehrle probably will be overpaid as it is, Wilson too for that matter.

 

I think the Yankees will "swoop in" and get either Wilson or Buerhle while Cherington is still dicking around trying to get a manager and something from the Cubs for Epstein.

 

The Sox' no.1 priority should be a legitimate #4 starter.

[iortiz]

I think the Yankees will "swoop in" and get either Wilson or Buerhle while Cherington is still dicking around trying to get a manager and something from the Cubs for Epstein.

The Sox' no.1 priority should be a legitimate #4 starter.

 

Well said.

 

Not a manager and not an OF but a solid and healthy SP.

[jung]

Well neither Wilson nor Buerhle would be #4 SP in Boston so I am assuming you guys want the Sox to get somebody else which does make sense. Is that correct?

[SCM33]

I'm not reading through 12 pages. Has anyone mentioned the possibility of Varitek retiring and managing the team?

 

If last year never happened, I would be 100% behind this move.......but he was part of the problem.

 

I think bench coach/bullpen coach.....absolutely, but manager....its too soon for that.

 

I think if and when he does manage, he will be an excellent one.

[iortiz]

Well neither Wilson nor Buerhle would be #4 SP in Boston so I am assuming you guys want the Sox to get somebody else which does make sense. Is that correct?

 

Both are good options to me.

 

Like SP said, our No. 1 priority MUST be signing the 4th SP and Cherignton should focus all his energies in that and avoid that somebody else eats his lunch in that matter.

[User Name]

Sure, overpay for another starting pitcher on the wrong side of 30 and then bitch about the signing when he tanks.

[User Name]

I think the Yankees will "swoop in" and get either Wilson or Buerhle while Cherington is still dicking around trying to get a manager and something from the Cubs for Epstein.

 

The Sox' no.1 priority should be a legitimate #4 starter.

 

So what?

 

Neither Wilson nor Buehrle are realistic option for the Sox anyway.

 

And where do people come up with the notion that the FO can't handle dealing with Epstein, looking for a manager and dealing with the player acquisition process.

 

If they can't, then they suck, and should be fired.

[mvp 78]

Tek would be a horrible manager for this team. He's not a leader. He didn't call anyone out last year. In fact, CC called him out. He's just not a leader.

 

Also, SBF needs to step down from the ledge. I'm not sure you understand how the offseason works. No team is "wheeling and dealing" right now. Things take time.

 

I'd rather the Sox be patient and find the right people rather than get another Lackey. They shouldn't jump into FA just to appease fans.

[a700hitter]

I'd rather the Sox be patient and find the right people rather than get another Lackey. They shouldn't jump into FA just to appease fans.

With over 700 consecutive sell outs, I don't think the FO has to worry about making decisions to appease fans. We haven't exactly formed a protest mob and decided to Occupy Landsdowne Street or Yawkey Way.

 

Unfortunately, the Red Sox have only 3 starting pitchers and their farm system is not going to produce any starters in 2012, so what are their alternatives besides acquiring starting pitching through free agency or trade? I'm not seeing any alternatives.

[mvp 78]

My point is that we're less than 2 weeks away from the WS. Expecting the FO to have jumped into FA willy-nilly isn't realistic. No major transactions have occurred for any team. The Sox haven't been left behind.

 

Cherington also has been noted as being more patient than Theo. The offseason isn't going to be over by Thanksgiving. Now that's being a realist.

[Elktonnick]

Tek would be a horrible manager for this team. He's not a leader. He didn't call anyone out last year. In fact, CC called him out. He's just not a leader.

 

Also, SBF needs to step down from the ledge. I'm not sure you understand how the offseason works. No team is "wheeling and dealing" right now. Things take time.

 

I'd rather the Sox be patient and find the right people rather than get another Lackey. They shouldn't jump into FA just to appease fans.

 

I agree 100% Tek went way down hill in my book. As far as CJ Wilson he is Lackey lite. I don't see the Sox doing anything significant in the FA market except perhaps at the margins.

[seabeachfred]

I think the Yankees will "swoop in" and get either Wilson or Buerhle while Cherington is still dicking around trying to get a manager and something from the Cubs for Epstein.

 

The Sox' no.1 priority should be a legitimate #4 starter.

 

At the risk of myfriend MVP worrying about me stepping back from the ledge, I'm beginning to think you are not only right but that Cherington is a procrastinator who simply cannot make up his mind. Compensation for Epstein? Ridiculous!!! As soon as we gave the Cubs permission to talk to Theo without some kind of return in place the game was lost. Time to move on from there and learn from that mistake.

 

A No. 4 starter is an absolute necessity unless we want to be the battered Tim Wakefield back out there getting lit up like a Christmas tree. That, a RH hitting outfielder and two decent relievers along with resigning Papelbon or getting another solid closer---those are the items we need badly. In baseball it all starts with starting pitching and maybe if we all pray in unison Beckett, Lester and Buchholz can stay healthy a whole season and give us a solid "Big Three".

[User Name]

At the risk of sounding like a "castigastor". Cherington is procrastinating? Really?

[Cask N Flagon 76]

Have we even looked or inquired about Martinez yet or is he not an option?.

[SoxSport]

Have we even looked or inquired about Martinez yet or is he not an option?.

 

Not a word about him. He may have an asterisk next to his name due to his rumored affair with Sandberg's wife. Tito had some personal stuff that was alluded to but never clarified.

The Hazel Mae (ex of MLB cable) rumor may have had some legs. Pun intended.

[seabeachfred]

Another puzzle---why Dave Martinez isn't in the mix for Red Sox manager. Is it because he doesn't have the necessary attributes to manage our team? That can't be so. He has been bench coach for Joe Madden for the past half-dozen years and last time I checked the Rays manager is one of the very best in baseball. Martinez knows the Red Sox from the other side of the field, but he also knows the Rays as well, not to mention the Jays, O's and the Yankees. To me he would seem to be the best fit for us, and while that is only my opoinion, it seems to be that there is some element of logic behind that.

[Jwmann2]

No need in announcing just yet. For all 30 teams, a lot will be settled after the winter meetings in Las vegas next month. Would love to see Maddon come to Boston. What about Beachy?

[seabeachfred]

No need in announcing just yet. For all 30 teams' date=' a lot will be settled after the winter meetings in Las vegas next month. Would love to see Maddon come to Boston. What about Beachy?[/quote']

 

Jwmann, I think some of us are just a little anxious for something to turn up soon. It comes mostly from the fact that the season ended so poorly for our team. We do have to face the sad fact that the team has a lot of decisions to make and maybe getting to them sooner rather than later would be beneficial to its future success. Like who do we resign, who do we let walk, who is going to be our closer, our RH hitting RF, etc.

 

I've come to the conclusion that it's best that we just wait it out a little longer so I will pull myself back from the ledge and let things just take their course. We have no control over those things anyway.

[a700hitter]

My point is that we're less than 2 weeks away from the WS. Expecting the FO to have jumped into FA willy-nilly isn't realistic. No major transactions have occurred for any team. The Sox haven't been left behind.

 

Cherington also has been noted as being more patient than Theo. The offseason isn't going to be over by Thanksgiving. Now that's being a realist.

That was fast!

[RonVermette]

We've lost Francona, Theo, & Papelbon; And picked up Scutaro's option. Is that it till after the owners meetings?

[Dawgma]

I'd like to see Tony LaRussa have a change of heart and come to Boston!

[mvp 78]

That was fast!

 

Exactly 1 major transaction for a $ amount the Sox wouldn't have touched. Paps is a loss, but I think FO was ok with letting him walk (whether us posters agree with the decision or not).

[SCM33]

Please pick Sandy Alomar Jr.

 

Please.......I will forgive the whole Papelbon thing as long as Alomar is named manager.

[seabeachfred]

Exactly 1 major transaction for a $ amount the Sox wouldn't have touched. Paps is a loss' date=' but I think FO was ok with letting him walk (whether us posters agree with the decision or not).[/quote']

 

I would think most of us here would have said NYET to putting up $50 million for a four year contract for Papelbon, but it should tell us all is that our pitching is now weaker than it was at the end of the season. We need two starters and about four decent relievers assuming they are out there.....and they better be because without them 2012 is a bridge year. That is why I think resigning Ortiz for big money is money wasted. We could use that $12.5 million that comes off his contract to tie it into Drew's and even some from the dregs we shouldn't have back. T hat could give us enough money to maybe sign a closer like Nathan, sign Cuddyer and get a starting pitcher. There are those who think nothing will happen until the GM Winter Meetings, but I would like to see the Red Sox swing into action a little before that.

[example1]

SBF, I see an offseason of frustration on the horizon for you. I know you think they should go out and get Joakim Soria, Joe Nathan, Heath Bell and Ryan Madson, but chances are they will get one guy you've heard of, and 2-4 that you haven't.

 

Relievers are often guys you've never heard of but they can still be good. I just ask that you have some patience with the players they get and wait to see what they can actually do. There's plenty of guys who throw mid-90s these days. I also suspect that both Weiland and Doubront and maybe even Wilson will be given the chance to prove their worth from the pen.

 

Plenty of good teams explore many options in the bullpen. The team shouldn't just throw money at established guys because it is the most variable position in the game.

[jung]

All the manager interviews are over. Sort of an eclectic group to have brought in for interview...No?

[seabeachfred]

SBF' date=' I see an offseason of frustration on the horizon for you. I know you think they should go out and get Joakim Soria, Joe Nathan, Heath Bell and Ryan Madson, but chances are they will get [i']one[/i] guy you've heard of, and 2-4 that you haven't.

 

Relievers are often guys you've never heard of but they can still be good. I just ask that you have some patience with the players they get and wait to see what they can actually do. There's plenty of guys who throw mid-90s these days. I also suspect that both Weiland and Doubront and maybe even Wilson will be given the chance to prove their worth from the pen.

 

Plenty of good teams explore many options in the bullpen. The team shouldn't just throw money at established guys because it is the most variable position in the game.

 

I'm going to have to have patience EX1 whether I want to or not, but kuddos to you for your easy does it approach. The four guys you mentioned? Yes, I would like to have one of them, and I hope the 2-4 that I don't know turn out to be gems for us. Our past history with bullpens most of the Epstein era was not all that successful and if luck is involved in our signings I hope this time around some of it smiles on us.

 

A lot of people are already starting to talk like 2012 in a bridge or rebulding year but, hell, we a big market team and we do have talent on or club. I want to see us in the Playoffs next year and would like nothing better to finally win another AL East Title.

[User Name]

Dale Sveum is being reported as the frontrunner for the manager job in several media outlets.....ewwwww.

[VA Sox Fan]

Dale Sveum is being reported as the frontrunner for the manager job in several media outlets.....ewwwww.

 

Maybe he will be a better manager than 3rd base coach.:dunno:

[seabeachfred]

This does not sound like good news for us. They never even interviewed Dave Martinez of the Rays. It sounds to me like they want a manager they can control. Looks like a new version of the Epstein-Francona song.