RF future

[Spitball]

I'd rather have a good hitter than a righthanded hitter Palodios. Reddick deserves a chance to fail before we spend assets on a replacement. At least untiil the deadline.

 

The Sox are OPSing .757 versus left handers and .808 versus right handers. That is not a terribly lopsided difference. There will always be a difference. It is only scary when there is a problem versus right handers which make up the majority of the pitchers.

[Palodios]

I'd rather have a good hitter than a righthanded hitter Palodios. Reddick deserves a chance to fail before we spend assets on a replacement. At least untiil the deadline.

 

I like Reddick a lot. But I'm not ready to give RF-- the second strongest offensive position in the majors right now-- to a rookie when our eyes are on the series, unless that rookie is a complete stud like Kalish.

[iortiz]

Top offensive players in June

 

(21) Brandon Jacobs, OF, Greenville -- .341/.412/.604 with 6 HRs and 6 SBs

(33) Chih-Hsien Chiang, OF, Portland -- .320/.391/.680 with 7 HRs

(NR) Daniel Nava, OF, Pawtucket -- .407/.505/.558 with 2 HRs

[redsoxbeatz]

What are Reddicks career #'s vs. RH Pitchers? He's pretty much on fire right now. Who knows, maybe he can hit superbly vs. the RHP.

[Dojji]

I don't think his numbers against minor league righties are that important. Since he's a LHH though I imagine they're pretty good.

[Steagles]

If Cleveland is stupid enough to decline his option, Grady Sizemore? In all seriousness, I think Kalish has the job. Reddick is either 4th OF or trade bait.

[SoxSport]

I like Reddick a lot. But I'm not ready to give RF-- the second strongest offensive position in the majors right now-- to a rookie when our eyes are on the series' date=' unless that rookie is a complete stud like Kalish.[/quote']

 

Kalish creates a problem with getting real help in RF. The kid is hurt right now, but ties up RF next year. Still, Beltran could see a lot of action in OF platooning. The guy is an excellent fit in Boston. Reddick goes to the Mets.

[SCM33]

I like Reddick a lot. But I'm not ready to give RF-- the second strongest offensive position in the majors right now

 

It doesnt matter what production other teams are getting out of the RF position. Red Sox are getting plus production at CF, 2B, 3B, 1B and DH. They are slighty above production from Varitek and Salty as a catching duo(I know, I know) and they are getting average (could argue slightly above) production out of SS.

 

Sox are getting below average production out of LF and RF.......they are getting enough production out of the other positions to make up for Reddick. If they arent going to make a trade......I say just start the kid, he cant be any worse than Drew who is slightly better than a national league hitting pitcher.

[Palodios]

It doesnt matter what production other teams are getting out of the RF position. Red Sox are getting plus production at CF, 2B, 3B, 1B and DH. They are slighty above production from Varitek and Salty as a catching duo(I know, I know) and they are getting average (could argue slightly above) production out of SS.

 

Yeah, it does matter. Let me put this into perspective-- how would you feel if your first basemen was hitting .200 with 5 home runs? Pretty s*****, because that is such a deep position. RF is the same way right now, there are a lot of good players out there doing significantly better than Drew, and that gives a lot more options for the Red Sox to try to trade for.

[Will617]

Yeah' date='[i'] it does matter[/i]. Let me put this into perspective-- how would you feel if your first basemen was hitting .200 with 5 home runs? Pretty s*****, because that is such a deep position. RF is the same way right now, there are a lot of good players out there doing significantly better than Drew, and that gives a lot more options for the Red Sox to try to trade for.

 

It doesn't matter in terms of who they put in for next year. They can try both Reddick and Kalish out and see if they have the ability to stick, without hurting their playoff chances significantly. They don't have the need to acquire a proven player to shore up the rest of the offense.

[Palodios]

It doesn't matter in terms of who they put in for next year. They can try both Reddick and Kalish out and see if they have the ability to stick' date=' without hurting their playoff chances significantly. They don't have the need to acquire a proven player to shore up the rest of the offense.[/quote']

 

Next year is a different story. Giving Reddick and/or Kalish a full year to get adjusted to the majors is fine. I just think they putting two guys in the OF who have less than one full year, and could potentially get exposed/fall under pressure is a risky move.

[iortiz]

It doesnt matter what production other teams are getting out of the RF position. Red Sox are getting plus production at CF, 2B, 3B, 1B and DH. They are slighty above production from Varitek and Salty as a catching duo(I know, I know) and they are getting average (could argue slightly above) production out of SS.

 

Sox are getting below average production out of LF and RF.......they are getting enough production out of the other positions to make up for Reddick. If they arent going to make a trade......I say just start the kid, he cant be any worse than Drew who is slightly better than a national league hitting pitcher.

 

Agreed. The ugly thing is that Terry Francona has been cutting Reddick's wings and streak. I mean, when the kid had been more on fire, TF has insisted in put McD or execute the "platooning thing" (those bulks (McD and Drew) can't take the bases without it mattering they face a LHP or RHP). The streak of a baseball player is just like a blackjack game, when the table is hot you should keep betting on that table and Tf has done the opposite, he loves go and bet on bad tables (McD, Cameron, Drew).

[Will617]

Next year is a different story. Giving Reddick and/or Kalish a full year to get adjusted to the majors is fine. I just think they putting two guys in the OF who have less than one full year' date=' and could potentially get exposed/fall under pressure is a risky move.[/quote']

 

First, they have to get MLB experience sometime. You can't keep pushing the date off later and later due to a risk of being exposed/pressured. At some point, the Sox have to give them time to adjust/learn how to play in the MLB, and I don't think Reddick has much more to gain from playing at AAA (although I think Kalish could use a little more time at AAA).

Second, the offense doesn't need another bat. The Sox are leading the AL in runs, even while missing Crawford (both during his current injury and during all of April), and I think that it isn't a bad time to give Reddick a lengthy run at RF. I've been pleasantly surprised with how much better his plate discipline numbers have been, since that was the major knock on his ability to stick at the MLB level, and I think that if that continues, he'll turn out to be a great option in RF.

[Palodios]

First' date=' they have to get MLB experience sometime. You can't keep pushing the date off later and later due to a risk of being exposed/pressured..At some point, the Sox have to give them time to adjust/learn how to play in the MLB[/b']

 

In the last two years, the Red Sox have gone through 14 different outfielders, because of injuries, time off, etc. What is wrong with giving Reddick a spot as the 3rd OF, and pushing him to 4th when Crawford comes back? You agree with me on Kalish needing time to marinate.

 

 

Second' date=' the offense doesn't need another bat. [/quote']

 

I'm looking at Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels. Do you really think this team has any chance of taking a win from them in Philadelphia? I'm concerned about this team's pitching, and since elite pitching is extremely expensive--the next best thing is making this lineup a sight to behold. The place this team will see the most significant increase in production with a low cost trade is RF.

[iortiz]

First, they have to get MLB experience sometime. You can't keep pushing the date off later and later due to a risk of being exposed/pressured. At some point, the Sox have to give them time to adjust/learn how to play in the MLB, and I don't think Reddick has much more to gain from playing at AAA (although I think Kalish could use a little more time at AAA).

Second, the offense doesn't need another bat. The Sox are leading the AL in runs, even while missing Crawford (both during his current injury and during all of April), and I think that it isn't a bad time to give Reddick a lengthy run at RF. I've been pleasantly surprised with how much better his plate discipline numbers have been, since that was the major knock on his ability to stick at the MLB level, and I think that if that continues, he'll turn out to be a great option in RF.

 

Agreed, go with Reddick/Kalish(Drew as a backup), Crawford and Ells. what we need is nother solid starter pitcher!

[Dojji]

Let's talk about RF at present.

 

WHen Crawford comes back, I think you've gotta start Reddick in RF for an extended period of time. Time to take the training wheels off and see what the kid can do. Besides, what's the worst Drew can do in response to being benched? Go into a slump? Give you the silent treatment? He's got zero leverage here. Make the move Tito.

[SoxSport]

The Sox need in the OF is obvious--a RHd bat with power. They are overloaded with LHd hitters in the OF. Kalish is the right fielder in waiting. Reddick is expendable in a deal for a RHd outfielder.

[jacksonianmarch]

Reddick has earned the playing time. I honestly think July will be the month that makes or breaks Reddick's career. If he goes into a protracted slump as of today, then he gets dealt. If he continues to tear the cover off the ball, then he may supplant Drew in RF when CC comes back and allow the sox to fix other areas of their team

[redsoxbeatz]

Another HR by Reddick leads me to believe we can spend our money on a SP. RF should be Reddicks for now or even for the season...

[Dojji]

I honestly think July will be the month that makes or breaks Reddick's career.

 

Pfft. Hardly. He has plenty of room to suck in July and earn his way back into credibility later on. I don't think you quite realize just how young Reddick is, and the Kalish injury really cleared the field for him.

 

Reddick actually has one of the larger windows of opportunity of any recent Red Sox prospect. Only Youkilis really has had a longer one. Kalish would really have to put on a show to surpass Reddick as the in-house potential Drew replacement, and with Ellsbury not locked up going forward, well, one of the things I've noticed about this front office is it's not in the business of making holes in its plans for the roster. Reddick is going to be Red Sox property going forward. In fact I strongly suspect that all of Kalish, Lin and Reddick are currently in Boston's plans for the next 3 years, depending on what Ellsbury does.

 

If we need trade bait, look to guys like Weiland, Doubront and Lavarnway. There's plenty there to tickle the interest of another GM without touching Reddick.

[mvp 78]

 

If we need trade bait, look to guys like Weiland, Doubront and Lavarnway. There's plenty there to tickle the interest of another GM without touching Reddick.

 

Why bother trade garbage only to get garbage back? I doubt anyone wants to trade for future AAAA DH Lavarnway or overrated Doubront.

[DirtDog]

Reddick is putting together quite a case for the starting RF job.

[Dojji]

Neither Weiland, nor Doubront, nor Lavarnway are garbage. Weiland didn't have a good start this afternoon but he's proven he has big league stuff, showed some poise after getting hammered, and showed some signs scouts are going to like seeing. Doubront has already proven he can hang in the big leagues in either a starter or relief role. Lavarnway has an impressive hitting pedigree and is improving behind the plate at catcher.

 

All prospects have flaws. All 3 of these ballplayers have impressive assets to offset those flaws. They should be desirable to other GM's.

[a700hitter]

At the All Star Break, J.D. Drew is hitting .229. Only a big power hitter can hold onto his job with an average like that. J.D. Is not that guy. There is just no defending his performance this year. I don't think that he is going to snap out of this and get hot. It's time to make a move.

[SoxSport]

Most likely, Reddick comes back to earth 2nd half and Drew approaches his career averages.

Reddick's trade value probably will never be higher than it is now.

[BornToRun]

How about leaving Reddick where he is in right and trying to add a righty shortstop to give us our RH bat? Dump Scutaro/Lowrie and a prospect to a team in need of decent SS and see what's out there. Maybe drop Drew to a NL team for a relief pitcher, someone'll take a flier on him. The Marlins took Cameron afterall.

[Palodios]

How about leaving Reddick where he is in right and trying to add a righty shortstop to give us our RH bat? Dump Scutaro/Lowrie and a prospect to a team in need of decent SS and see what's out there. Maybe drop Drew to a NL team for a relief pitcher' date=' someone'll take a flier on him. The Marlins took Cameron afterall.[/quote']

 

Why would the Red Sox need a RHH shortstop? Despite his mid-season struggles, Lowrie is still OPSing 1.000+ against lefties. I've lost my passion for Jed Lowrie, but the one thing he can do is hit lefties.

[redsoxrules]

Lowrie cant stay healthy

[a700hitter]

Most likely, Reddick comes back to earth 2nd half and Drew approaches his career averages.

Reddick's trade value probably will never be higher than it is now.

Drew is actually getting worse as the season progresses. I don't see him rebounding in the second half.

[Palodios]

Lowrie cant stay healthy

 

I think the Red Sox organization will get to the point where they realize he simply isn't an everyday player. And that's fine, but he's an exceptional super-utility guy who can kill lefties. Give him a good amount of time off, and I bet he'll be fine. Both this shoulder injury, and his wrist injury in 2008 only got worse because he was trying to play through them.