Yankees 2010-2011 Hotstove Thread

[yankees228]

Riveira ' date=' Jeter and pettitte will use a good chunk of that money[/quote']

 

Right. If Pettitte comes back, they'll need between 45 and 50 million dollars of the 70 million to re-sign all three of them.

[Divinity]

They should certainly resign Kerry Wood as well, he was fantastic this year.

[yankees228]

They should certainly resign Kerry Wood as well' date=' he was fantastic this year.[/quote']

 

He's going to want a lot of money, he's going to want to close, and while he was great with the Yankees, his numbers suggest he's due for a regression. I'll pass, and the Yankees are almost certain to.

[Spudboy]

He's going to want a lot of money' date=' he's going to want to close, and while he was great with the Yankees, his numbers suggest he's due for a regression. I'll pass, and the Yankees are almost certain to.[/quote']

 

And if the Yanks pass on Wood, his value will plummet.

[Divinity]

I think they should at least give him a offer, if he declines then he can walk. I can't stand watching David Robertson pitch for this team.

[ORS]

They don't even need to make an offer, just a decision. There's an $11M club option for 2011 on the contract. Do it, Cash.

[a700hitter]

This morning on a local news channel the sports reporter mentioned Steve Swisher as potential trade bait. His report about the Yankees off season was very general, so I was a bit surprised that he singled out Swisher when discussing trade possibilities.

[jacksonianmarch]

They don't even need to make an offer' date=' just a decision. There's an $11M club option for 2011 on the contract. Do it, Cash.[/quote']

 

I'd decline the option but offer arbitration. The worst case is he accepts and you pay him about $8 million for 2011 in arbitration. A bit overpaid but not as bad as $11 mil. The best case is he either negotiates a setup role contract ($5-$6 mil per yr) over 2-3 yrs or he walks and we get a supp pick.

[ORS]

He made $10.5M in 2010, so there's the floor for arbitration. Given how volatile his performance is and how injury prone he is, that's a risky proposition. For one, I'd love it if they picked up his option or offered arbitration (the two moves look like a wash at this point), because when that is coupled with the task of resigning Jeter, Rivera, and Pettitte, that limits their other moves they can make if the talk of them being somewhat budgeted is legitimate.

[a700hitter]

His injury history is concerning, but he is about as good a quality arm as you can find in the FA market for relievers. When healthy, the guy is a beast. I'd be happier if the Yanks let him walk. The $10 or 11 million will not break the Yankee budget, and they'll have a lights out 8th inning guy if he's healthy. I hope Cashman takes a pass.

[jacksonianmarch]

He made $10.5M in 2010' date=' so there's the floor for arbitration. Given how volatile his performance is and how injury prone he is, that's a risky proposition. For one, I'd love it if they picked up his option or offered arbitration (the two moves look like a wash at this point), because when that is coupled with the task of resigning Jeter, Rivera, and Pettitte, that limits their other moves they can make if the talk of them being somewhat budgeted is legitimate.[/quote']

 

No, that is not the floor for arbitration. Arbitration floors are 20% less than the season prior's salary. And since arb takes into account 2 seasons, his Cleveland stint would work against him. If the Yankees offered arb and Wood accepted, I would think he would have trouble getting anything more than the -20% floor

[ORS]

The 80% minimum club offer rule applies to players who are not eligible for free agency. This is not the case with Wood. Essentially, the Yankees can submit whatever figure they want, but given the rules for making comparisons in arbitration, they are unlikely to get away with a figure lower than what he made last year.

[a700hitter]

As a Red Sox fan, I don't really care what they pay for him. He's an impact arm when healthy. I hope he ends up elsewhere. What kind of satisfaction would it give me if they overpay for him? It's not like that it will be posted on the scoreboard as he is shutting down our team.

[ORS]

I care if his acquistion cost comes at the expense of improving other parts of the team (again, assuming the reports of a "budget" in NY being true). I know his salary is irrelevant when it's just about him and his performance, but connecting the dots and considering the impact on roster construction adds relevance, IMO.

[a700hitter]

I care if his acquistion cost comes at the expense of improving other parts of the team (again' date=' assuming the reports of a "budget" in NY being true). I know his salary is irrelevant when it's just about him and his performance, but connecting the dots and considering the impact on roster construction adds relevance, IMO.[/quote']I just don't see $4 or 5 million of overpayment impacting the Yankees budget very much. If there is someone that they really want after they sign Wood that would cause them to go over-budget by $4 or 5 million, I don't think they would hesitate.

[a700hitter]

I think the Yankees should go to Haiti as a show of support during this Cholera outbreak. That would be a wonderful humanitarian gesture. On the way back, they could all stop at Mo's house to go for a swim in his re-wired swimming pool.

[BSN07]

I think the Yankees should go to Haiti as a show of support during this Cholera outbreak. That would be a wonderful humanitarian gesture. On the way back' date=' they could all stop at Mo's house to go for a swim in his re-wired swimming pool.[/quote']

 

Arod was there last summer, hence the breakout

[Divinity]

Cashman just confirmed they won't be picking up Wood's option

[BSN07]

Cashman just confirmed they won't be picking up Wood's option

 

Not a shocker. May be they really are on a certain budget.

[Meh]

Not a shocker. May be they really are on a certain budget.

 

haha oh come on, $11 million for a set up man... I think he wants the pick for Wood anyway. Wood would be unhappy in a non closer role, he even said he wants to close badly.

[ORS]

If they don't want him back for $11M, why would they offer arb and make the choice to earn about that much up to him?

[yankees228]

If they don't want him back for $11M' date=' why would they offer arb and make the choice to earn about that much up to him?[/quote']

 

Exactly. They don't want to overpay for Wood's inevitable regression.

[ORS]

Exactly. They don't want to overpay for Wood's inevitable regression.

And nobody else will want to either at that price, meaning he won't get offers close to that much, and he'll know that by the time the deadline to accept arb comes up, so he's a strong risk to accept.

 

Oh what am I thinking, clearly the Yankees will get a concession to throw out the arb rules and get him for whatever the market is willing to bear....plus a supplemental pick. Cash is that good.

[yankees228]

And nobody else will want to either at that price, meaning he won't get offers close to that much, and he'll know that by the time the deadline to accept arb comes up, so he's a strong risk to accept.

 

Oh what am I thinking, clearly the Yankees will get a concession to throw out the arb rules and get him for whatever the market is willing to bear....plus a supplemental pick. Cash is that good.

 

Get it done Cash!

[Meh]

If they don't want him back for $11M' date=' why would they offer arb and make the choice to earn about that much up to him?[/quote']

 

He's not going to close over Mo... he's said he wants to close too. He could get a 2 year deal at $14 million a year as a closer somewhere on his second half of 2010. He was the best RP in the game haha.

[ORS]

His second half does not remove the risk that teams are likely to want to avoid. There's a good chance he earns twice as much next year staying with the Yankees vs. offers from other teams. I'll start believing players will turn their heads from that when I see it happen, chances to close or not.

[BSN07]

If it's up to Cliff Lee's wife, Kristen, the Rangers seem to have the inside track on signing her husband in the offseason. Perhaps the Rangers' greatest sales pitch simply was having Kristen sit in the visiting family section at Yankee Stadium during the playoffs. She says there were ugly taunts. Obscenities. Cups of beer thrown. Even fans spitting from the section above. "The fans did not do good things in my heart," Kristen says. "When people are staring at you, and saying horrible things, it's hard not to take it personal."

 

LOL I really hope she has as much of say in where Lee plays as Tex's wife did for him

[Divinity]

I can't believe some Yankees fans would be so stupid to harass the wife of the guy your team is trying to sign. Perhaps they were really Rangers fans posing as Yankees to try and give him a reason to stay in Texas. <_>

 

Then again when you're the most popular sports franchise in the world you're bound to attract some retards.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

I can't believe some Yankees fans would be so stupid to harass the wife of the guy your team is trying to sign. Perhaps they were really Rangers fans posing as Yankees to try and give him a reason to stay in Texas. <_>

 

LOL and this surprises you? Yankees fans have always been like that.

 

EDIT: Except Yankees228

[example1]

I can't believe some Yankees fans would be so stupid to harass the wife of the guy your team is trying to sign. Perhaps they were really Rangers fans posing as Yankees to try and give him a reason to stay in Texas. <_>

 

Then again when you're the most popular sports franchise in the world you're bound to attract some retards.

 

Yeah, why would they be so stupid as to insult Cliff Lee's wife? I mean, it's fine to shout routine homophobic chants at people in the bleachers, threaten people in visiting opponents clothes, etc., but hurling insults at Lee's wife is unacceptable.

 

Many Yankee fans are self-important jerks who think they rule the baseball world. I hope this comes back to bite them and Lee signs in Texas.