Yankees 2010-2011 Hotstove Thread

[Meh]

Dang looks like jeter got 19 million per... Oh well at least it's done with. I was ok with 17 but I guess another 6 million won't hurt the Yankees too much.

[a700hitter]

Yankees Close To Agreement With Derek Jeter

By Mark Polishuk [December 3 at 9:54pm CST]

 

Derek Jeter and the Yankees could have a contract finalized by Saturday, according to Roger Rubin and Bill Madden of the New York Daily News. The reported deal would pay Jeter "in the neighborhood of $19MM annually" over three years, and there could be a fourth year that vests if Jeter meets certain "reachable parameters."

 

The $19MM annual salary roughly matches the average salary earned by the Yankee captain over the span of the 10-year, $189MM pact he signed with New York before the 2001 season, if a mild step down from the $21MM he earned in 2010. $19MM also happens to be about the midpoint between each side's demands --- Jeter was reportedly looking for $23MM per season and the Bronx Bombers only offered a three-year, $45MM contract.

 

If Jeter signs by the weekend and Mariano Rivera's contract is soon finalized, the Yankees will reach their goal of having both franchise icons back in the fold before the start of the winter meetings on Monday.

$19 million and 4 years would be a huge cave by the Yanks. Jeter had no leverage... none. They had him over a barrel.

[Divinity]

If the Yankees were smart they would've let Jeter walk and gave that money to Crawford.

[WhiskeyBreath]

They can do both. What's the big deal?

[Divinity]

I'd be rather surprised if they sign both Lee and Crawford, I think that would put them in a 230-240 million payroll range for next year?

[Keeper]

Only a matter of time. I said it would be 4 years.

[jacksonianmarch]

The parameters will be tough to reach if he's on the bench in that last yr. They caved to the pink hats here and wanted to avoid the negative publicity more than anything else.

[jacksonianmarch]

The Crawford rumors are very intriguing. I see why we would want him, but am not sure who you deal away? Do you deal Swisher, who is in the last yr of his contract? Do you deal Gardner, who is cheap and has shown better OBP skills in his first full big league season than Crawford has ever shown? Nobody seems to think Grandy gets moved. If they move Swish, they would probably knock out a good part of his AAV in the Crawford deal. But if it is Gardner who moves, then the posturing about a budget was all BS

[diony]

The only way they'll sign Crawford if is they fail to sign Lee. Sign Crawford/Werth and then trade Swisher/Gardner for a starter.

[jacksonianmarch]

So Jeter gets 3 yrs 51 mil with a 4th yr vesting option at 10 mil

[BSN07]

The Yankees and Derek Jeter have agreed to a three-year contract worth $15MM-17MM annually, according to George A. King III of The New York Post. The deal will be finalized later today and includes a fourth year option King describes as "tricky" because it can neither vest nor is a club option.

 

Wonder how the option is going to work?

[a700hitter]

So Jeter gets 3 yrs 51 mil with a 4th yr vesting option at 10 mil

They could have signed him for 3 yrs/$40 million. He had no leverage at all.

[redsoxrules]

Told you all that Jeter was in the driver seat

[yankees228]

Told you all that Jeter was in the driver seat

 

The years were the most important thing to the Yankees, and they got what they wanted.

[redsoxrules]

The years were the most important thing to the Yankees' date=' and they got what they wanted.[/quote']

 

4th year option , most likely will be picked up

[yankees228]

4th year option ' date=' most likely will be picked up[/quote']

 

Maybe, maybe not. We don't even know what the option is. But three guaranteed years was the Yankees' sticking point, and that's what Jeter got.

[Divinity]

Jeter's deal is 3 yrs, $51 million with player option for $8 million in 4th yr. Jeter has $9 mil in incentives in 4th yr

[jacksonianmarch]

Instead of sticking to their guns, the Yankees decided that the extra $6 million was worth not having to battle in the press with the aging face of the franchise. So be it. A lot of pink pinstripers should be happy.

 

In terms of Lee, the Rangers sound like they wont go past 5 years. I guarantee the Yanks go to a 6th yr and trump the AAV of the Rangers. The question is whether Lee wants to come to NY, which from all reports, he doesnt seem averse to. I expect Lee to be in pinstripes by the end of next week.

 

In terms of Crawford, I have changed my tune in terms of what I think the Yankees will do. With the Werth deal, the Yankees are probably looking at $15-$16 million per annum to resign Swisher. He isnt worth it, IMO, since he has shown to be nothing but inconsistent in his career, although he has been very strong as a Yankee. Crawford would be quite an upgrade offensively and defensively and would give the Yankees a more athletic team, which Cashman has been trying to do. I dont think we need it, but we have seen Cashman go out and put a second big player under the tree before, and I think he might do it again

[jacksonianmarch]

Per Bob Klapisch, friends of Andy Pettitte said he is definitely retiring. Not sure why this is being reported now by Klapisch since he said that this was conveyed to him 3 weeks ago

[jacksonianmarch]

Matt Diaz is popping up on the Yankee radar as a possible Marcus Thames replacement. The guy absolutely dominates left handed pitching and can actually play the OF, unlike Thames. There are 2 other teams interested, but he'd be the perfect 4th OF complement for this team.

[Keeper]

Per Bob Klapisch' date=' friends of Andy Pettitte said he is definitely retiring. Not sure why this is being reported now by Klapisch since he said that this was conveyed to him 3 weeks ago[/quote']

 

Sweet. If Pettitte retires and the Yankees can't land Lee, Cashman will have to get very creative with the rotation.

[Divinity]

Sweet. If Pettitte retires and the Yankees can't land Lee' date=' Cashman will have to get very creative with the rotation.[/quote']

 

If they don't sign Lee, I see them signing Crawford and trading for a Ace with a package including Montero and Swisher/Gardner

[Palodios]

If they don't sign Lee' date=' I see them signing Crawford and trading for a Ace with a package including Montero and Swisher/Gardner[/quote']

 

I could see them getting very creative. Any teams have aces AND albatrosses?

[jacksonianmarch]

The Yanks dont need to get creative. They have incredible depth in their system to be able to pry away a top tier pitcher with their farm. The problem is that, aside from the headcase Greinke, there arent any actual aces who are available. Therefore, they have the chips, but dont have the supply to go after

[jacksonianmarch]

Sounds like the Yankees want Wood back, but not at "closer" money. I'd assume Cashman would take him back at $5 mil or less. If we were able to get him back, our pen will be pretty much set minus one extra lefty.

[Meh]

The Yanks dont need to get creative. They have incredible depth in their system to be able to pry away a top tier pitcher with their farm. The problem is that' date=' aside from the headcase Greinke, there arent any actual aces who are available. Therefore, they have the chips, but dont have the supply to go after[/quote']

 

Truth. Pettitte's coming back, I can gaurentee it. If Lee signs elesewhere I'd seriously just sign Wang for like $4 million, Martin for $5 million, see if we can get a good deal on Wood and basically sift through some interesting pieces when the dust starts to settle at the end and sign a pretty good talent for next to nothing.

 

It's not like our team sucks, I mean gosh darn we have a top three team in the AL might even be the best with a few minor tweaks.

[jacksonianmarch]

We were 2 games away from having the best team in the AL last yr with 40% of our rotation flaming out and 3 of our offensive stalwarts having down years. We arent sunk regardless. It is just that the Yankees like to build a bulletproof team on paper before the contingency plans need to be enacted. Regardless of how we are built, the brass dont like the idea that the Yankees need to be completely healthy and reliable to make it to the WS. They like to prepare for a team that if everything goes right, runs train on the AL, and if there is a good amount of bad occurrences, then they'll make the playoffs

[Keeper]

The Yanks dont need to get creative. They have incredible depth in their system to be able to pry away a top tier pitcher with their farm. The problem is that' date=' aside from the headcase Greinke, there arent any actual aces who are available. Therefore, they have the chips, but dont have the supply to go after[/quote']

 

No Pettitte and no Lee means you'd have Sabathia and Hughes as your only two reliable starters. Burnett is a huge question mark.

 

From what I've read, the Royals are asking for the moon for Greinke. You can say goodbye to Montero if you want him. I'm still not convinced Greinke would even want to play in New York or be able to handle the pressure. If I'm Cashman - and Pettitte retires, Lee doesn't sign with the Yanks - I would look long and hard at Brandon Webb.

[jacksonianmarch]

I think Nova is ready for the #5 starter spot. He has strikeout ability, but also great stuff to pitch to contact to. He just needs to work on holding runners and poise, which is something you dont do very much in the minors when nobody seems to get on against you and the pressure is much less. But we would need to build in some serious contingency plans.

 

Let's say Andy retires and Lee goes back to Texas. I would assume the Yankees would go back and get Chien Ming Wang. He's finally healthy, and even if he only tops out at 90mph, that sinker could get outs. Then I agree, I would look at Webb. The only problem is, Webb was topping out at 85mph in his spring workouts, but that was pretty fresh out of his rehab. If he regains some arm strength, you should see his sinker go back into the high 80s range, which could make him useful. Then you have to think about innings eaters like Kevin Millwood or Vicente Padilla. Regardless, slim pickings after Lee, which makes him pretty necessary. You also have to think about moving Joba back to the rotation

[yankees228]

If Pettitte retires and Lee goes elsewhere, the Yankees are in some serious trouble rotation wise. And if they don't sign Lee, it will likely be because they don't view him as a necessity.