Should Kalish make the team next year?

[a700hitter]

I want him in left field

Carl Crawford in LF, Manny at DH 130 games, Ortiz at 1B for 120 games DH for 30 games, VMart catcher and 1B 40 games, and Youk at 3rd.

[BSN07]

Ortiz at 1B for 120 games?

[Palodios]

I think if Ortiz plays 1B he's much less likely to get into his ugly long batting slumps.

[a700hitter]

Ortiz at 1B for 120 games?

It would never happen, but even with an old Manny and Ortiz that would be some fun lineup.

 

Crawford

Pedroia

Youkilis

Ortiz

Manny

VMart

Drew

Scutaro

Ellsbury

 

I think they would score some runs, and they would have speed too. Lol!

[Dipre]

I think if Ortiz plays 1B he's much less likely to get into his ugly long batting slumps.

 

Based on what? That really doesn't make much sense. If anything, having to worry about playing 1B may actually distract him enough to make those slumps worse.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Playing in the field would keep him in the game more and help him feel more involved, helping to keep rhythm. If he has a crap at-bat, he's stuck on the bench dwelling on it, until his next at-bat.

[Dipre]

Playing in the field would keep him in the game more and help him feel more involved' date=' helping to keep rhythm. If he has a crap at-bat, he's stuck on the bench dwelling on it, until his next at-bat.[/quote']

 

He's a mid-30's overweight DH with a past history of knee and wrist problems. Throwing him out there to both hit and field 1B for 120 games may just accelerate the process of him going the way of Mo Vaughn. Not to mention, if he's sucking too bad on D, it may actually take him away from his offensive game. DH plz.

[a700hitter]

Based on what? That really doesn't make much sense. If anything' date=' having to worry about playing 1B may actually distract him enough to make those slumps worse.[/quote']

His slumps did get into his head in a big way. Sitting on the bench between ABs doesn't help any. I think most players would rather play both ways when they are slumping.

[Dipre]

His slumps did get into his head in a big way. Sitting on the bench between ABs doesn't help any. I think most players would rather play both ways when they are slumping.

 

Ortiz has been a full-time DH since 2003. I don't buy that.

 

Not to mention that from the standpoint of Ortiz' physical well-being, the worst thing that could happen is having him play the field.

[a700hitter]

He's a mid-30's overweight DH with a past history of knee and wrist problems. Throwing him out there to both hit and field 1B for 120 games may just accelerate the process of him going the way of Mo Vaughn. Not to mention' date=' if he's sucking too bad on D, it may actually take him away from his offensive game. DH plz.[/quote']He'd be playing only 3 of every 4 games in the field. That shouldn't tax him too badly. If it wears him out and shortens his career, we can be happy that he is on a 1 year deal. Wouldn't you like to see that lineup?

[Dipre]

He'd be playing only 3 of every 4 games in the field. That shouldn't taz him too badly. If it wears him out and shortens his career' date=' we can be happy that he is on a 1 year deal. Wouldn't you like to see that lineup?[/quote']

 

I'm thinking it would shorten his playing time next year, and with it, his productivity.

 

Here's my ideal lineup for next year, and i know you like Crawford better than Werth, but i don't.

 

1) Ellsbury CF

 

2) Pedey 2B

 

3) Youk 3B

 

4) Dunn 1B

 

5) Werth RF

 

6) Papi DH

 

7) Olivo/Buck C

 

8) Drew LF

 

9) Scutaro SS

[a700hitter]

Ortiz has been a full-time DH since 2003. I don't buy that.

 

Not to mention that from the standpoint of Ortiz' physical well-being, the worst thing that could happen is having him play the field.

Do you think Dunn would be so much better in the field? Plus, he may be bigger and fatter than Ortiz. Check out the gut on the guy. Lol!

[Dipre]

Do you think Dunn would be so much better in the field? Plus' date=' he may be bigger and fatter than Ortiz. Check out the gut on the guy. Lol![/quote']

 

He's been playing the field every day the last few years, he's also younger, and actually decent at 1B, not an experiment like Papi would be.

 

Not to mention a 3-4-5-6 of Youk-Dunn-Werth-Ortiz would be absolutely deadly.

[a700hitter]

I'm thinking it would shorten his playing time next year, and with it, his productivity.

 

Here's my ideal lineup for next year, and i know you like Crawford better than Werth, but i don't.

 

1) Ellsbury CF

 

2) Pedey 2B

 

3) Youk 3B

 

4) Dunn 1B

 

5) Werth RF

 

6) Papi DH

 

7) Olivo/Buck C

 

8) Drew LF

 

9) Scutaro SS

 

Your lineup blows compared to mine and it is a wash defensively. Does it really bother you so much when the old dude thinks outside of the box and comes up with an interesting idea. I can't believe that you can't even admit that it would be a fun lineup. Lol!

 

A700 for GM!

[Dipre]

Your lineup blows compared to mine and it is a wash defensively. Does it really bother you so much when the old dude thinks outside of the box and comes up with an interesting idea. I can't believe that you can't even admit that it would be a fun lineup. Lol!

 

A700 for GM!

 

Any lineup that features David Ortiz playing 120 games at 1B sucks. That is all.

[a700hitter]

Any lineup that features David Ortiz playing 120 games at 1B sucks. That is all.

I was asking about their offense, not their D. It will never happen because the FO would never touch Manny. But you can't bring yourself to admit it. Lol.!

 

And Adam Dunn is Keith Hernandez and Don Mattingly rolled into one. Well, he does weigh more than their combined weight. Lol!

[Dipre]

I was asking about their offense, not their D. It will never happen because the FO would never touch Manny. But you can't bring yourself to admit it. Lol.!

 

And Adam Dunn is Keith Hernandez and Don Mattingly rolled into one. Well, he does weigh more than their combined weight. Lol!

 

Admit what?

 

Right now, Adam Dunn is a better all-around option than Manny. He can play 1st, LF and RF, hits for more power, gets on base at a similar clip and keeps his mouth shut. He's also a better long-term option for the Sox, since they can move him to DH and pursue A-Gon (who will end up in Boston unless trades + extends him mid-season).

 

Adam Dunn 2009-2010: 264/378/533 .910 OPS., 141 OPS+ 31 years old next season.

 

Manny Ramirez 2009-2010: 298/414/ 501 .915 OPS, 147 OPS+. 38 years old next season.

 

.006 OPS difference in favor of Manny. Everything else in favor of Dunn.

[a700hitter]

Admit what?

 

Right now, Adam Dunn is a better all-around option than Manny. He can play 1st, LF and RF, hits for more power, gets on base at a similar clip and keeps his mouth shut. He's also a better long-term option for the Sox, since they can move him to DH and pursue A-Gon (who will end up in Boston unless trades + extends him mid-season).

 

Adam Dunn 2009-2010: 264/378/533 .910 OPS., 141 OPS+ 31 years old next season.

 

Manny Ramirez 2009-2010: 298/414/ 501 .915 OPS, 147 OPS+. 38 years old next season.

 

.006 OPS difference in favor of Manny. Everything else in favor of Dunn.

Manny and Adam Dunn in the same sentence. Your credibility is going in the crapper. Plus my lineup had VMart vs. Olivo/Buck and Crawford vs. Werth. I was just asking if it would be a fun lineup. It would be more fun than any lineup with Olivo. Jeesuz! I get it. Draw a line in the sand whenever a700 posts.

[a700hitter]

Admit what?

 

Right now, Adam Dunn is a better all-around option than Manny. He can play 1st, LF and RF, hits for more power, gets on base at a similar clip and keeps his mouth shut. He's also a better long-term option for the Sox, since they can move him to DH and pursue A-Gon (who will end up in Boston unless trades + extends him mid-season).

 

Adam Dunn 2009-2010: 264/378/533 .910 OPS., 141 OPS+ 31 years old next season.

 

Manny Ramirez 2009-2010: 298/414/ 501 .915 OPS, 147 OPS+. 38 years old next season.

 

.006 OPS difference in favor of Manny. Everything else in favor of Dunn.

I'll still pick Manny to send to bat instead of Dunn. Maybe I'll chose Dunn after manny is dead for a year and decomposed. My lineup also had VMart vs. Olivo/Buck and Crawford vs. Werth. I was just asking if it would be a fun lineup. It would be more fun than any lineup with Olivo. Jeesuz! I get it. Draw a line in the sand whenever a700 posts. You are no fun.:thumbdown

[Palodios]

Adam Dunn 2009-2010: 264/378/533 .910 OPS., 141 OPS+ 31 years old next season.

 

Manny Ramirez 2009-2010: 298/414/ 501 .915 OPS, 147 OPS+. 38 years old next season.

 

.006 OPS difference in favor of Manny. Everything else in favor of Dunn.

 

Err, what? .40 difference in OBP is sort of a big deal-- that's the difference between Olivo and VMart. The strikeout numbers also mean less sac flies for Dunn.

[Dipre]

I'll still pick Manny to send to bat instead of Dunn. Maybe I'll chose Dunn after manny is dead for a year and decomposed. My lineup also had VMart vs. Olivo/Buck and Crawford vs. Werth. I was just asking if it would be a fun lineup. It would be more fun than any lineup with Olivo. Jeesuz! I get it. Draw a line in the sand whenever a700 posts. You are no fun.:thumbdown

 

DAMN IT, OLIVO IS LOADS OF FUN!!!

 

Besides, i like Werth better than Crawford because chicks dig the long ball.

[Dipre]

Err' date=' what? .40 difference in OBP is sort of a big deal-- that's the difference between Olivo and VMart. The strikeout numbers also mean less sac flies for Dunn.[/quote']

 

What about the near .030 difference in SLG% and the difference in XBH? All while in lineups that feature close to no protection, and the 7-year age difference?

[a700hitter]

DAMN IT, OLIVO IS LOADS OF FUN!!!

 

Besides, i like Werth better than Crawford because chicks dig the long ball.

I am going to a funeral wake now. Catch you later. I'll bet the stiff likes my lineup.

[Keeper]

LOL wut? Are people actually arguing that Manny is better than Dunn right now?

[example1]

LOL wut? Are people actually arguing that Manny is better than Dunn right now?

 

I'm not. Donkey is better.

[a700hitter]

Manny has been a better hitter than Dunn every year of Dunn's career except 2010 when Manny was injured, but I guess that 2010 is all that matters. For my money for one season as a DH, I'll still take Manny. He can't hit 10 mile bombs, but he will not strike out 200 times either. Also, you could probably get Manny for about $6 million for 1 season plus some incentives. Dunn is a multi -year deal for much more.

[jacksonianmarch]

a700, normally, I would agree with you. But Manny looked really slow in the box with Chicago and I think you can finally get a fastball past him.

[a700hitter]

a700' date=' normally, I would agree with you. But Manny looked really slow in the box with Chicago and I think you can finally get a fastball past him.[/quote']Sooner or later he will be done. Maybe now is the time. It doesn't matter, because there is no chance of the Sox signing Manny. It still would have been a fun lineup.

[Palodios]

I give him four more seasons-- if teams want to tolerate him.

[mvp 78]

a700' date=' normally, I would agree with you. But Manny looked really slow in the box with Chicago and I think you can finally get a fastball past him.[/quote']

 

Finally? That's been the case for the past 2 years. He's not what he once was.

 

Dunn is so much better than Manny that it's not even funny.