5/12 vs. toronto

[schillingouttheks]

I missed the last inning. Was the third strike on Ortiz a bad pitch on the 3-2 count?

 

If it was a righty hitting, he would have been hit by the pitch.

 

Okay, I exaggerate, but it was truly in the other batter's box.

[Dipre]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3135/ortizab.jpg

 

Jesus Christ.

[Chamomile]

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/numlocation.php?pitchSel=276514&game=gid_2010_05_12_tormlb_bosmlb_1/&batterX=67&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3

 

And pitchfx gives the umpires an extra 3.5 inches on each side of the plate. Ortiz didn't actually see a strike the entire at bat. A pitch that's 1.5 feet from the center of home plate is literally 2 inches into the batter's box.

[suns]

I was actually cheering for the jays.

[Dipre]

I was actually cheering for the jays.

 

What the f***?

[suns]

I didn't want to make the game thread because I wouldn't have been on tomorrow.

[Dipre]

I didn't want to make the game thread because I wouldn't have been on tomorrow.

 

suns, triple-think things before you type them.

[schillingouttheks]

I didn't want to make the game thread because I wouldn't have been on tomorrow.

 

Were you rooting for the Celtics yesterday so you could rant once again about the Cavs' suckitude?

[redsoxrules]

I was actually cheering for the jays.

 

[YeAuldBroade]

The plate umpiring in the 9th was an absolute joke.

[schillingouttheks]

The funny thing is that those charts don't even really do the actual distance justice.

 

Though the scale is correct... it was about 1.5 feet outside, maybe even more. It wasn't even close.

[Jasonbay44]

I didn't want to make the game thread because I wouldn't have been on tomorrow.

 

Sox have an off day tomorrow.

[a700hitter]

They missed an opportunity to pick up a game on the Yanks in the loss column. Things seem to be coming together a bit for the Sox at home. Let's see how they do on the road where they were horrendous last year.

[Dipre]

They missed an opportunity to pick up a game on the Yanks in the loss column. Things seem to be coming together a bit for the Sox at home. Let's see how they do on the road where they were horrendous last year.

 

Don't bitch. Blame the umps, who were awful throughout but specially in the 9th. You can't win if the ump is striking you out with pitches a foot off the plate.

[a700hitter]

I didn't get to see any of it today, but blaming the umps is for losers. We should have beat that sorry ass team like a drum.

[Dipre]

I didn't get to see any of it today' date=' but blaming the umps is for losers. We should have beat that sorry ass team like a drum.[/quote']

 

Thinking you can beat another team's ace like a drum, then bitching about losing without watching what actually happened is for losers. :harhar:

[Dipre]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3135/ortizab.jpg

 

Jesus Christ.

 

a700, look at pitch seven, which is a called strike, and tell me if you can actually win with this type of umpiring.

[a700hitter]

a700' date=' look at pitch seven, [b']which is a called strike[/b], and tell me if you can actually win with this type of umpiring.

One pitch should not be the difference.

[YeAuldBroade]

One pitch should not be the difference.

If it were one it wouldn't. It was 10? or more. Had you watched the game you would have known that.

 

The Sox were down 3 runs going into the ninth. The atrocious ball/strike calling didn't cost the Sox the game but it made pretty damn tough to stage a comeback. As it was they did manage to score two in the ninth which was quite an achievement, all things considered.

[Dipre]

One pitch should not be the difference.

 

If it were one it wouldn't. It was 10? or more. Had you watched the game you would have known that.

[Chamomile]

If it were one it wouldn't. It was 10? or more. Had you watched the game you would have known that.

 

The Sox were down 3 runs going into the ninth. The atrocious ball/strike calling didn't cost the Sox the game but it made pretty damn tough to stage a comeback. As it was they did manage to score two in the ninth which was quite an achievement, all things considered.

 

This. Someone who didn't watch a game really shouldn't try to argue that they know more about what happened in a game than a group of people who actually watched it.

[MNSoxChief102]

That pitch wasn't even close to the f***ing plate. The MLB should fire that asshat ump by tomorrow morning at the latest. f*** him and his s***** eyesight. That was a big out and we probably win the game if Ortiz gets the walk with Beltre singling in the next AB.

 

The video doesn't lie...

 

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7983763&topic_id=8877966&c_id=bos

[redsoxrules]

yeah , that was awfull , so was the check swing call on Beltre

[a700hitter]

All of a sudden watching the games means something.

[Dipre]

All of a sudden watching the games means something.

 

That's why you have Gameday and PitchFx. You don't have to "WATCHH THE GAMEZZZZ!!!!!" per se, but you can at least check out what exactly people are talking about.

[MNSoxChief102]

yeah ' date=' that was awfull , so was the check swing call on Beltre[/quote']

 

No s***... how can he not ask for help from first base when both Beltre and the catcher were pointing down the line? Seriously, that half inning is probably one of the single worst examples of MLB umpiring I've seen in the last 25 years. Absolutely horrible.

[YeAuldBroade]

It is awful when even TC after the game refers to it as lousy.

[Palodios]

It seriously looked like he was trying to set up the Sox lose. That is when an umpire needs to lose his job, for so many reasons.

[a700hitter]

Bad umpiring is aggravating, but I lived through the non-interference call on Ed Armbrister in the 1975 World Series, so I don't get that worked up about bad calls unless it can be shown that an ump is crooked. That kind of stuff (i.e., bad umpiring) evens out in the end.

[Dipre]

Bad umpiring is aggravating' date=' but I lived through the non-interference call on Ed Armbrister in the 1975 World Series, so I don't get that worked up about bad calls unless it can be shown that an ump is crooked. That kind of stuff (i.e., bad umpiring) evens out in the end.[/quote']

 

But in the meantime, it probably screwed the Sox out of a ballgame, and you're complaining because they lost.