New York Yankees Gameday Thread

[Yaz Sideburn]

They were in a little slump' date=' but they are not falling apart. Texas is leading their division, and the Orioles have been winning for Showalter. The Yankees are not in a collapse or free-fall. They played the Rays into extra innings in two games in Tampa and split those games. They still have the best record in baseball, so they are not exactly falling apart.[/quote']

 

the entire team may not be falling apart, but their rotation definitely is. here are their numbers since the all-star break

 

sabathia - 2.93 era, 1.26 whip

burnett - 5.82 era, 1.59 whip

vazquez - 6.20 era, 1.60 whip

hughes - 5.37 era, 1.43 whip

moseley - 5.00 era, 1.44 whip

nova - 4.78 era, 1.44 whip

[yankees228]

the entire team may not be falling apart, but their rotation definitely is. here are their numbers since the all-star break

 

sabathia - 2.93 era, 1.26 whip

burnett - 5.82 era, 1.59 whip

vazquez - 6.20 era, 1.60 whip

hughes - 5.37 era, 1.43 whip

moseley - 5.00 era, 1.44 whip

nova - 4.78 era, 1.44 whip

 

This, unfortunately, is spot on. Pettitte is supposed to return Sunday. He should provide a little help in the regular season, but if the Yankees make the playoffs, he'll provide a big boost there.

[a700hitter]

the entire team may not be falling apart, but their rotation definitely is. here are their numbers since the all-star break

 

sabathia - 2.93 era, 1.26 whip

burnett - 5.82 era, 1.59 whip

vazquez - 6.20 era, 1.60 whip

hughes - 5.37 era, 1.43 whip

moseley - 5.00 era, 1.44 whip

nova - 4.78 era, 1.44 whip

You had said the Yankees were falling apart, not their rotation. Pitchers do tend to get a little worn out by the end of August. Wainright has had trouble in August and Gallardo had a terrible August. They are both All Star pitchers. Buchholz had the worst start of the season his last time out. Many teams have starters go through tough stretches in late August, but that highlights the importance of a strong bullpen. The Yankee bullpen has been pretty strong throughout, which is why the team has not fallen apart. Their starters should rebound, except maybe for Burnett. Pettitte coming back will give a big boost. In the post season, they'll only need one more pitcher to throw out there with CC and Pettitte. Burnett can be on a short short leash with Hughes in the pen.

[yankees228]

You had said the Yankees were falling apart' date=' not their rotation. Pitchers do tend to get a little worn out by the end of August. Wainright has had trouble in August and Gallardo had a terrible August. They are both All Star pitchers. Buchholz had the worst start of the season his last time out. Many teams have starters go through tough stretches in late August, but that highlights the importance of a strong bullpen. The Yankee bullpen has been pretty strong throughout, which is why the team has not fallen apart. Their starters should rebound, except maybe for Burnett. Pettitte coming back will give a big boost. In the post season, they'll only need one more pitcher to throw out there with CC and Pettitte. Burnett can be on a short short leash with Hughes in the pen.[/quote']

 

The last part isn't entirely true. In the first round the Yankees will only need three starters, but if they make the LCS, they're going to need a fourth.

[Yaz Sideburn]

You had said the Yankees were falling apart' date=' not their rotation. Pitchers do tend to get a little worn out by the end of August. Wainright has had trouble in August and Gallardo had a terrible August. They are both All Star pitchers. Buchholz had the worst start of the season his last time out. Many teams have starters go through tough stretches in late August, but that highlights the importance of a strong bullpen. The Yankee bullpen has been pretty strong throughout, which is why the team has not fallen apart. Their starters should rebound, except maybe for Burnett. Pettitte coming back will give a big boost. In the post season, they'll only need one more pitcher to throw out there with CC and Pettitte. Burnett can be on a short short leash with Hughes in the pen.[/quote']

 

they do appear to be falling apart. they've lost 7 of their last 9, their rotation is horrible and more often than not their offense is being held to 3 runs or less. it's not just one starter having issues and it's not just the rotation

[a700hitter]

they do appear to be falling apart. they've lost 7 of their last 9' date=' their rotation is horrible and more often than not their offense is being held to 3 runs or less. it's not just one starter having issues and it's not just the rotation[/quote']It's hard to make that argument when they still have the best record in baseball. They are in their worst slump of the season, and they are still top dog. I'd prefer that they hit this slump in the playoffs rather than now, because this slump is not going to be enough to knock them out of playoff contention.

[a700hitter]

The last part isn't entirely true. In the first round the Yankees will only need three starters' date=' but if they make the LCS, they're going to need a fourth.[/quote'] Wouldn't CC pitch 3 games- 1, 4 and 7? Pettitte an handle 2 games. Take your pick of Burnett and Huges in the other 2 games. If Burnett does well in game 3, he gets game 6. If he bombs in game 3, Hughes gets the nod.

[yankees228]

Wouldn't CC pitch 3 games- 1' date=' 4 and 7? Pettitte an handle 2 games. Take your pick of Burnett and Huges in the other 2 games. If Burnett does well in game 3, he gets game 6. If he bombs in game 3, Hughes gets the nod.[/quote']

 

Alright, here's the ALCS schedule:

 

10/15

10/16

10/18

10/19

10/20

10/22

10/23

 

The difference is that they eliminated the off-day between games 4 and 5, which allowed (last year) Burnett and Pettitte to both make their second starts on normal rest. If CC is able to start the first game, like you said, he would be slated to pitch games 1, 4, and 7. Additionally, if Pettitte is available, he would start game 2. But considering his injury, and how poorly he pitched on three days rest in the previous World Series, I doubt they would bring him back on short rest in game five. That would leave games three and five open, and they would need two starters to fill those spots. Even if they were wiling to bring back Pettitte on short rest, with the way Burnett is pitching (and pitched in last year's WS on short rest), I don't think they'd be willing to bring him back on short rest.

[Divinity]

they do appear to be falling apart. they've lost 7 of their last 9' date=' their rotation is horrible and more often than not their offense is being held to 3 runs or less. it's not just one starter having issues and it's not just the rotation[/quote']

 

Losing 7 of 9 sounds worse then it really was, 5 of those games were decided by only a 1 run difference. Seems pretty unlucky

[Yaz Sideburn]

It's hard to make that argument when they still have the best record in baseball. They are in their worst slump of the season' date=' and they are still top dog. I'd prefer that they hit this slump in the playoffs rather than now, because this slump is not going to be enough to knock them out of playoff contention.[/quote']

 

it's even more difficult to try to make the argument that this is just a slump considering their horrible rotation and inconsistent offense have been an issue for well over a month now

 

i'm not saying they're going to be knocked out of playoff contention. but if they keep playing like this they probably won't last very long in the playoffs

[a700hitter]

it's even more difficult to try to make the argument that this is just a slump considering their horrible rotation and inconsistent offense have been an issue for well over a month now

 

i'm not saying they're going to be knocked out of playoff contention. but if they keep playing like this they probably won't last very long in the playoffs

We can hope, but I don't see the Twins or Texas beating them, unless Lee gets hot.

[Yaz Sideburn]

Losing 7 of 9 sounds worse then it really was' date=' 5 of those games were decided by only a 1 run difference. Seems pretty unlucky[/quote']

 

it could very easily have been 9 losses in their last 9 games as well. they barely scratched out those 2 wins

[Yaz Sideburn]

We can hope' date=' but I don't see the Twins or Texas beating them, unless Lee gets hot.[/quote']

 

i don't see the twins beating anyone

 

texas could beat them though, lee has owned them all year and they just swept the yankees

[a700hitter]

i don't see the twins beating anyone

 

texas could beat them though, lee has owned them all year and they just swept the yankees

Neither Sabathia nor Pettitte pitched in that series and Lee was matched up with Mosely.

[jacksonianmarch]

Exactly. Sabathia neutralizes anything thrown against us. Pettitte is a big wild card and the next 2 guys are definitely concerns at this point. Regardless, against our healthy lineup, we can neutralize any pitcher aside from the elites like Price and Lee

[jacksonianmarch]

1-0 Yankees, sacks packed for Posada

[yankees228]

1-0 Yankees' date=' sacks packed for Posada[/quote']

 

That's the problem. Why in the world is Berkman hitting in front of Posada?

[Yaz Sideburn]

Exactly. Sabathia neutralizes anything thrown against us. Pettitte is a big wild card and the next 2 guys are definitely concerns at this point. Regardless' date=' against our healthy lineup, we can neutralize any pitcher aside from the elites like Price and Lee[/quote']

 

it's been the opposing pitcher neutralizing the yankees often more often than not lately

[Yaz Sideburn]

1-0 Yankees' date=' sacks packed for Posada[/quote']

 

inning ending double play

[jacksonianmarch]

It was actually Berkman, and he looked pretty safe to me

[Yaz Sideburn]

yankees228, did he look safe to you?

[yankees228]

yankees228' date=' did he look safe to you?[/quote']

 

Seemed like a tie to me live, and on the replay, but YES only showed one shot of it. Extremely close.

[jacksonianmarch]

good inning from Hughes, threw the change a few times and it looked pretty good

[yankees228]

good inning from Hughes' date=' threw the change a few times and it looked pretty good[/quote']

 

Yup, he looked good that inning. However, that inning, in a way, kind of exemplified one of Hughes' issues. He shouldn't have to throw 17 pitches in a 1-2-3 inning with any strikeouts.

[jacksonianmarch]

Not a bad move going for 2. Good play from Joyce

[Divinity]

Do you guys think Burnett or Hughes should pitch 2nd in the rotation come playoff time?

[jacksonianmarch]

I think you have to go with CC and Pettitte

[Yaz Sideburn]

I think you have to go with CC and Pettitte

 

and pray for rain

[jacksonianmarch]

We'll see. Not sure what we're gonna do in the 3 and 4 holes. I think Hughes has locked up a spot

[jacksonianmarch]

Hughes looking really good right now. All he had to do was show the change and it makes the fastball that much more explosive