Thoughts on Adrian Beltre?

[rhet]

Dude' date=' you're like the Trix rabbit......[/quote']

 

And what about you?

 

:lol:

[yankees228]

The conflicting media reports make it impossible to tell how serious the Red Sox' interest in Beltre is.

 

You just don't know whether they value Beltre's defense enough to offset his hitting--which should rebound some in 2010. And how much they are willing to pay. You also don't know if they will deal with Boras.

 

As for this luxury tax talk, I don't know if Beltre would impact that, and they have so much money coming off the books next year that it isn't a problem long term. Rosenthal at Foxsports has a column today where he lumps the Red Sox and the Yankees as the big spenders. And then has a couple of more free agents going to the Mets. Just an effort, maybe, to take the heat off the Yankees.

 

The Yankees are in a class by themselves when it comes to spending. Money simply isn't a factor--any semblence of fiscal restraint is pure window dressing. They spend when they feel they have to. And they can outbid any team for any player.

 

If there is any other team close, it would be the Mets. They have to compete for fans in NY, and they also have their own cable channel. Wilpon still isn't out of the legal woods with the Madoff scandal, but that doesn't seem to have stopped their spending. No other market can compete with NY.

 

The Red Sox? They have the highest ticket prices in baseball just to stay competitive in the AL East. If it weren't for having to compete with the Yankees, their budget and their ticket prices might be closer to half what it is. Big spending plus good management keeps them competitive--but it is tough.

 

Yup, the Yankees have shown absolutely no fiscal restraint...

 

The problem is, you have these pre-conceived notions, and you ignore all evidence to the contrary. When it comes to the Yankees, you have consistently shown this trait. Everything that has gone on this offseason says you're wrong, and, if you use logic and rely on the facts, it's irrefutable.

[Dipre]

And what about you?

 

:lol:

 

I'm like the Road-Runner!

[bsox0407]

I guess we have to learn to love him.

 

[bsox0407]

 

 

Buster.

[Dipre]

I guess we have to learn to love him.

 

 

I love it!

[yeszir]

Oh snap.

[Dipre]

Best run-prevention unit EVER.

[bsox0407]

I love it!

 

don't mind having him on the Sox.

 

It keeps the rotation strong.

[Cocos Disciples]

Interesting (pretty sure I've said this about every signing this winter, I'll check). The Sox have a clear vision and model they're going for, no doubt about that.

[redsoxrules]

so....twitter is blocked here at work....we got Beltre ? if so how much ?

[Keeper]

This team can play some D. Only real weakness now is catcher.

[italstallianion]

Gammons: Beltre 1 yr. Deal for $9m with player option for $5m. Physical coming

[bsox0407]

so....twitter is blocked here at work....we got Beltre ? if so how much ?

 

1 year 9 million with a 5 million dollar option and a team opt out clause.

[neilpatrickharris]

Love it, and the optout/cheap option allows us to pursue someone like Gonzalez in the future if he becomes available

[italstallianion]

Boras went from 14 mil/year to 14 mil total. I'm glad we got Beltre and even happier at the price.

[Dipre]

Epic win for the FO.

 

If Beltre has a good year, he'll opt out and a big bat can be pursued.

[Spudboy]

I hope he has the balls to be able to play in a 34,000 seat fishbowl 81 times a year.

[italstallianion]

I hope he has the balls to be able to play in a 34' date='000 seat fishbowl 81 times a year.[/quote']

 

 

Pun intended?

[Spudboy]

What do you think?

[Red Foreman]

I hope he has the balls to be able to play in a 34' date='000 seat fishbowl 81 times a year.[/quote']

 

I hope that isn't a requirement when he has his physical. See ya Kotchman!

[Dipre]

f*** Kotchman!

[Dojji]

I don't like this much.

 

I really hope I'm wrong, but Beltre is exactly the wrong kind of RHH to bring to Boston. I can't picture him thriving here.

[Spudboy]

f*** Kotchman!

 

No thanks.

 

I'd rather deal him for a relief pitcher.

[Dojji]

I hope he has the balls to be able to play in a 34' date='000 seat fishbowl 81 times a year.[/quote']

 

Testicular fortitude notwithstanding I hope he has the shoulder to play 150+ games a year.

[Dipre]

I don't like this much.

 

I really hope I'm wrong, but Beltre is exactly the wrong kind of RHH to bring to Boston. I can't picture him thriving here.

 

A pull-happy RHH for the monster?

 

I think you meant wrong type of hitter because of his OBP, but the monster will probably do for him what it did for Lowell.

 

You're probably wrong.

[Dipre]

No thanks.

 

I'd rather deal him for a relief pitcher.

 

Bench please.

[Dojji]

A pull-happy RHH for the monster?

 

I think you meant wrong type of hitter because of his OBP, but the monster will probably do for him what it did for Lowell.

 

You mean, virtually nothing?

 

3 of Lowell's 4 seasons here were pretty much exactly consistent with his career averages, leaviing 2007 as a likely BABIP-inflated career year fluke.

 

Maybe the Monster gave him a few more doubles. His career high in two-baggers came in 2006. It certainly didn't give him more homers though, 4 different Florida seasons featured Mike Lowell homering more than he ever did in one season here.

 

The Monster is not RHH steroids. It increases average and adds doubles neither to any great degree. There is certainly ZERO evidence that it adds to an RHH's HR totals. Your own example suggests that the virtue of the Monster lies in other areas.

[Dipre]

You mean, virtually nothing?

 

3 of Lowell's 4 seasons here were pretty much exactly consistent with his career averages, leaviing 2007 as a likely BABIP-inflated career year fluke.

 

Maybe the Monster gave him a few more doubles. His career high in two-baggers came in 2006. It certainly didn't give him more homers though, 4 different Florida seasons featured Mike Lowell homering more than he ever did in one season here.

 

The Monster is not RHH steroids. It increases average and adds doubles neither to any great degree. There is certainly ZERO evidence that it adds to an RHH's HR totals. Your own example suggests that the virtue of the Monster lies in other areas.

 

Can you put any more words on my mouth?

 

Can you take things more out of context?

 

Try again, maybe you can.

 

The monster will help him in the XBH department simply because it's not Safeco Field. You can argue it all you want, but Fenway is a much better hitter's park than Safeco. It's really that simple.

[Spudboy]

Bench please.

 

Why doe the Sox need 4 1st basemen?