Billy Wagner

[RWTP24]

Do you really think anyone is going to trust him with the closer's role?

 

The Nats?

[CoachC.]

Do you really think anyone is going to trust him with the closer's role?

 

Cubs.

[Dojji]

The Nats?

 

that's a very good point. If the Nationals have ownership money they might decide to spend on their pitching staff and see where Dunn, Strasburg and Zimmerman can carry them. A short term low risk flier on a veteran with proven NL East experience would appeal to them a lot.

[jacksonianmarch]

A 38-39 year old pitcher coming off Tommy John has bigger worries than if someone picks up an option to pay him $8 million. I doubt that he would be worht that on the open market unless he gets to the post season and pitches lights out in the playoffs.

 

I he keeps throwing like he's throwing, someone will offer him the closer's job and an incentive laden deal capable of making him 8-10 mil. He was sitting 95-98 in his last appearance and the slider looked f***ing sick

[RWTP24]

that's a very good point. If the Nationals have ownership money they might decide to spend on their pitching staff and see where Dunn' date=' Strasburg and Zimmerman can carry them. A short term low risk flier on a veteran with proven NL East experience would appeal to them a lot.[/quote']

 

 

They do have some good players their, that's for sure. With that said, I could see them doing that.

[a700hitter]

I he keeps throwing like he's throwing' date=' someone will offer him the closer's job and an incentive laden deal capable of making him 8-10 mil. He was sitting 95-98 in his last appearance and the slider looked f***ing sick[/quote']An $8 million guaranty is hard to pass up, no matter the incentives.

[Dojji]

If he accepts arbitration he gets a minimum of probably around $6M/year. That would be pretty difficult to pass up too.

[RWTP24]

Sounds like Wagner isn't going to be a Sox. He wants he option declined so he can go somewhere next year and be a closer.

[a700hitter]

Sounds like Wagner isn't going to be a Sox. He wants he option declined so he can go somewhere next year and be a closer.

Declining an $8 million option should not be a problem for the Red Sox.

[Dipre]

Declining an $8 million option should not be a problem for the Red Sox.

 

It's not the option.

 

It's assuring him he won't be offered arbitration.

[RWTP24]

Declining an $8 million option should not be a problem for the Red Sox.

 

No, but do the Sox want to bother with him for only 40 games? Well, i guess it doesn't really matter as long as he helps the team for this year.

[RWTP24]

I think i just answered my own question.

[SoxSport]

Can't believe they want the $8 mil option. The rest of it is negotiable. Wagner changed his tune when Pap mouthed off to the media. Wagner isn't going to make any difference, anyways. How many relievers do they need? What they need is a reliable no.3 starter.

[User Name]

He just came in to pitch against the Phillies and held them to a scoreless 8th inning, looked good yet again.

[redsoxrules]

the ONLY way i can see wagner comming here is if Theo dosent plan on signing Paps and has wagner closing next year and have bard be the future closer

[Dojji]

the ONLY way i can see wagner comming here is if Theo dosent plan on signing Paps and has wagner closing next year and have bard be the future closer

 

Really? when we have enrique Gonzalez on the roster? the ONLY way?

[BoSox21]

the ONLY way i can see wagner comming here is if Theo dosent plan on signing Paps and has wagner closing next year and have bard be the future closer

 

I don't think they have any plan on getting rid of Papelbon until 2011 at the earliest. If they indeed get Wagner, they'll send Bard down until September 1st I'd think

[Dipre]

I don't think they have any plan on getting rid of Papelbon until 2011 at the earliest. If they indeed get Wagner' date=' they'll send Bard down until September 1st I'd think[/quote']

 

Gonzales?

[BoSox21]

Gonzales?

 

Gonzalez will go when Wakefield gets activated Wednesday

[Dipre]

Gonzalez will go when Wakefield gets activated Wednesday

 

Right, Penny's going to the BP.

[BoSox21]

Right' date=' Penny's going to the BP.[/quote']

 

Exactly. IF they get Wagner, the only option besides sending Bard down for a few days is to DFA Penny and I'd doubt they do that so close to Sept. 1st

[Dipre]

Exactly. IF they get Wagner' date=' the only option besides sending Bard down for a few days is to DFA Penny and I'd doubt they do that so close to Sept. 1st[/quote']

 

True.

 

Bard IS getting shelled lately.

[soxfan17881]

Wagner is a whiny ass. If there is any concern that Papelbon's fragile ego will be bruised by another "closer" arriving, that will be the least of the gristle that Wagner will add to that pen, or the locker room in general. He's already bitching for concessions. The Met's could have held him until the end of the season and just not exercised their option on him. The fact that they felt they had to see if they could jettison him now, gimpy arm and all, is a sign that they didn't want him in the locker room.

 

He was a punk with the Phillies, he was a punk with the Mets. Let him rot.

[SoxSport]

I think they'll work something out with weasel words where Wagner gets to finish the season in Boston, and he goes elsewhere next year if he wants to close and the Sox get any compensation picks. How they do that is what agents and gms are paid plenty for. Wilpon wants that $3.5 million, and he doesn't want that $8 mil option. My guess it gets done. Wagner has shown enough in 2 appearances to be of some use in the bullpen. And yes, he may even get a save or two in September competing with all those prima donnas the Sox seem to have.

[WhiskeyBreath]

After hearing what Wagner has said recently, I know think this deal doesn't get done.

[a700hitter]

If time expires and no deal gets done, but the Mets don't pull back the waivers, what happens? Can Wagner say no?

[Dipre]

If time expires and no deal gets done' date=' but the Mets don't pull back the waivers, what happens? Can Wagner say no?[/quote']

 

If they let the time expires and they don't pull him back we simply take him.

[Gom]

If time expires and no deal gets done' date=' but the Mets don't pull back the waivers, what happens? Can Wagner say no?[/quote']

 

Yes. He can invoke his a no-trade clause and block the waiver move.

[Dipre]

Yes. He can invoke his a no-trade clause and block the waiver move.

 

I stand corrected.

 

I completely forgot Wagner has a NTC.

[Gom]

Also, if he is injured, he cannot be put on waivers. I hear that there is some concern in the Sox camp about this.