Jason Bay, Redsox ready to talk

[617_suffolkcounty_standup]

According to the Boston Globe's Tony Massarotti, contract negotiations between the Red Sox and outfielder Jason Bay are expected to pick up later this week.

 

Bay is batting .260/.380/.527 this season with 20 home runs and 72 RBI. He has spoken openly about feeling comfortable in Boston and the club would definitely love to keep him around. He's just 30 years of age and has shown no signs of slowing down offensively. What might the outfielder command? A five-year, $50MM deal similar to the contract handed to teammate J.D. Drew? The Red Sox don't have an abundance of outfield talent on the farm, so their hand may be forced.

[Dutchy]

LOL, talk contract while his numbers are down! Get on it!

 

I would love for them to extend Bay in season.

[Spudboy]

According to the Boston Globe's Tony Massarotti, contract negotiations between the Red Sox and outfielder Jason Bay are expected to pick up later this week.

 

Bay is batting .260/.380/.527 this season with 20 home runs and 72 RBI. He has spoken openly about feeling comfortable in Boston and the club would definitely love to keep him around. He's just 30 years of age and has shown no signs of slowing down offensively. What might the outfielder command? A five-year, $50MM deal similar to the contract handed to teammate J.D. Drew? The Red Sox don't have an abundance of outfield talent on the farm, so their hand may be forced.

 

5/50? Where did you get this? And when?

 

I don't think he will get 4 or 5 at 17 or 18. But 4/15 or 4/16 may be offered by the Sox.

[617_suffolkcounty_standup]

5/50? Where did you get this? And when?

 

I don't think he will get 4 or 5 at 17 or 18. But 4/15 or 4/16 may be offered by the Sox.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

[Spudboy]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

 

I read the article by Mazz., I believe. It said that Bay was offered 10-11/year by the Sox during spring training, as I said in an earlier post. That did not get it done THEN, and will most certainly not get it done NOW.

 

Bay's demands are not unreasonable. But I see the Sox trying to limit their exposure/risk to 4, not 5 years. It only makes good business sense.

[Cocos Disciples]

No way 5/50 gets it done.

[Dojji]

Agreed, almost positive Bay wouldn't be happy taking a LOWER AAV than Jose Guillen.. Try 5/75, which is actually a reasonable price and carries through to Bay's age 36 season, not unreasonable risk in years.

[TheKilo]

Like I said in the other thread, in this economy I think if you offer him a JD Drew deal he'd take it. They really are comparable players.

[617_suffolkcounty_standup]

Like I said in the other thread' date=' in this economy I think if you offer him a JD Drew deal he'd take it. They really are comparable players.[/quote']

 

I think Drew is a much better all around player then Bay though. Bay's talent is basically his power Drew does everything well.

[BoSox21]

itll take at least 5 years and $13 mil per unless he REALLY likes Boston

[VA Sox Fan]

Hope this deal gets done. Love the Bay-man!

[Cocos Disciples]

I think Drew is a much better all around player then Bay though. Bay's talent is basically his power Drew does everything well.

 

Much better? Nah. Without looking at the stats, Bay has more power and they get on at a fairly similar clip.

[TheKilo]

Much better? Nah. Without looking at the stats' date=' Bay has more power and they get on at a fairly similar clip.[/quote']

 

Right, and Drew's the better defender and baserunner.

[a700hitter]

Much better? Nah. Without looking at the stats' date=' Bay has more power and they get on at a fairly similar clip.[/quote']Drew is a much better fielder, but that is about it.

[Cocos Disciples]

They're comparable, but neither is much better than the other.

[a700hitter]

They're comparable' date=' but neither is much better than the other.[/quote']Drew is the better fielder, but Bay is more durable. I am wondering why some people think Bay's agent take so much less than Drew money.

[TheKilo]

Drew is the better fielder' date=' but Bay is more durable. I am wondering why some people think Bay's agent take so much less than Drew money.[/quote']

 

Because in a few years Bay will need to move to DH, his fielding is that below average.

 

There's value in Drew's defense.

 

I think 5/70 or 5/80 gets it done.

[Cocos Disciples]

Plus Drew has a better posse.

[617_suffolkcounty_standup]

The stats are very similar you guys are right there. But to me being a all around ball player means offense defense and throwing. You guys ever see Bay throw the ball to the plate? I cringe whenever he loads up. But Bay is a great fit for us, give him his monwy within' reason.

[jacksonianmarch]

Jason Bay >>> JD Drew. I am sorry, but defense from LF or RF is not as important as it is at SS or catcher. The COF positions are a place to put mashers. Now, JD Drew is a great OBP kind of guy, but he is not a big time power hitter. Hell, he's only hit 20+ homeruns three times in his career. He's not a big doubles guy either (30+ only twice). And he is not a big RBI threat either (max total of 100 once). He is what he is. A guy with incredible patience who works a ton of walks, hits the occasional homerun and misses a lot of time due to injury. Jason Bay is different. He's your MVP IMO even with Youk playing to his level. Why? Because Bay is more durable, way more powerful and much more apt to drive in runs. He is your #4 hitter for a reason and I think his slump had a lot to do with the mediocrity of the sox overall play during that span. Bay is on his way to his 5th 30+ HR season. He's on his way to his 4th 100+ RBI season. His OPS after a month long slump is still over .900. And he is 3 yrs younger.

[TheKilo]

RBIs are a team dependent stat

[jacksonianmarch]

and both of these guys are on the same team right now and Bay is blowing him away. Plus, Bay was on one of the worst teams in baseball while Drew enjoyed time in StL, LA and now in Boston.

[Dojji]

Drew is hitting leadoff, genius.

[jacksonianmarch]

82% of JD Drew's at bats have come outside of the leadoff position, genius.

[BoSox21]

Drew's BA with RISP is .189, Bay's is .333

 

check the sky for flying pigs but this time, jacko's right

[Dutchy]

Jason Bay >>> JD Drew. I am sorry' date=' but defense from LF or RF is not as important as it is at SS or catcher. The COF positions are a place to put mashers. Now, JD Drew is a great OBP kind of guy, but he is not a big time power hitter. Hell, he's only hit 20+ homeruns three times in his career. He's not a big doubles guy either (30+ only twice). And he is not a big RBI threat either (max total of 100 once). He is what he is. A guy with incredible patience who works a ton of walks, hits the occasional homerun and misses a lot of time due to injury. Jason Bay is different. He's your MVP IMO even with Youk playing to his level. Why? Because Bay is more durable, way more powerful and much more apt to drive in runs. [b']He is your #4 hitter for a reason and I think his slump had a lot to do with the mediocrity of the sox overall play during that span[/b]. Bay is on his way to his 5th 30+ HR season. He's on his way to his 4th 100+ RBI season. His OPS after a month long slump is still over .900. And he is 3 yrs younger.

 

The Red Sox have gone 24-10 since June 1st (.705). That might be the best record in baseball over that span, I'm too lazy to look it up. Before Bay's slump we were a game out of second place, now we're 3 games up.

 

And by no means is Jason Bay the clearly better player. RAR and WAR (which take hitting, fielding and positional importance into context) both have Drew as the much better player the last year and a half. Drew had a 41.5 RAR last year (4.1 WAR) and has a 22.1 RAR this year (2.2 WAR). Bay had a 29.4 RAR last year (2.9 WAR) and has an 18.6 RAR this year (1.9 WAR).

[BSN07]

Bay may want Drew money. But he might not get it even if he id deserving of it. The market has changed drastically from when Drew signed his deal. Look for the money to be around Adam Dunn's, but more years.

[BoSox21]

Look for the money to be around Adam Dunn's' date=' but more years.[/quote']

 

Bay will get more than 10 mil, count on it

[Teddyballgame10]

I gotta agree with Jacko here. Bay has much more pop. Corneer outfeilders are not brought in for their glove. Plus Bay can hit both RHP and LHP

[Dutchy]

I bet the Red Sox offer him something like $70 million over 5 years and he accepts within the next two weeks.