Yankees still in the Tex and Manny sweeps

[Teddyballgame10]

As usual, you find the road to WIN, but instead make a left turn at dumbass avenue, and end up in FAIL street.

 

No one is saying they wouldn't look for public funding, you just love strawman arguments, what IS being said here, is the fact that it's preposterous for the Yankees to be asking for public funding after spending $200+ million dollars on TWO free agent pitchers.

 

It's like if when you get your allowance ('cause sometimes i really think you live in your parents' basement) you go and spend all in one night with a one-legged hooker, then come back the next morning to ask your dad for more money.

 

Thank you for explaining this. GOM is right it is a business and a good business move but it is extremley unethical. With how much money the gov't is borrowing now and how much our taxes are going to go up its unreal for them to ask for this money after how much they just spent. But if you live out side of NYC, this means nothing to you at all.

[CrespoBlows]

Thank you for explaining this. GOM is right it is a business and a good business move but it is extremley unethical. With how much money the gov't is borrowing now and how much our taxes are going to go up its unreal for them to ask for this money after how much they just spent. But if you live out side of NYC' date=' this means nothing to you at all.[/quote']

 

The precedent has already been set, but this will be another long line of government assisted stadiums that will be built in other cities. My city of Sarasota, was debating whether to give the Reds $14 million to rebuild Ed Smith Stadium.

 

This kind of collusion exists in every city.

[Dipre]

The precedent has already been set, but this will be another long line of government assisted stadiums that will be built in other cities. My city of Sarasota, was debating whether to give the Reds $14 million to rebuild Ed Smith Stadium.

 

This kind of collusion exists in every city.

 

It does, even in 3rd world countries like this one, just not to such an embarrasing extent

[TheKilo]

Because of the deliberate misinformation that politicians and owners peddle out to deceive its citizenry, in order for them to accept a billionaire from getting a $1.5 billion dollar subsidy to build his stadium.

 

Private financing of stadium's exist. Peter McGowan built AT&T Park out of his own pocket. That's how it should work. That's legitimate business. Not this immoral, unethical, and unfair ******** that Steinbrenner and Bloomberg come up with.

 

Why do New Yorkers swallow this? Shouldn't be surprised. They elected Rudy Giuliani, Hillary Clinton, Elliot Spitzer, and are trying to get Caroline Kennedy the Senate job. You guys must like being f***ed by politicians.

 

I actually agree with everything you said here.

[Gom]

That's fine.

 

You find nothing wrong, in the economic climate, with the Yankees spending $250 million on two pitchers and then in the same week, asking for millions more?

 

Kilo..do you worry about your own finances this much?

 

No...I see nothing wrong with a company getting a handout from the government. That is what they are supposed to do.

 

I BLAME the GOVERNMENT. Not the team. Why should I?

 

Let me ask you a question. If you owned the team...wouldn't you do the SAME EXACT THING?

 

Look at the Sox. Increase seating capacity by putting seats above the monster. NESN is basically a Red Sox station. Marketing the Red Sox as Red Sox Nation. Most expensive seats in baseball.

 

Don't be foolish and naive and make this into a Sox/Yankee argument. This is a BUSINESS. The Yankees got a sweetheart deal from the city. Why shouldn't they take it? Even ask for more if they can get it....

 

Wait...this just in...an exerpt from a secret conversation between George Steinbrenner and Mayor Bloomberg:

 

"Well, Mayor Bloomberg, thanks for the extra tax-exempt bonds that total an extra 500 million. However, I think we'll pass because it wouldn't be fair to the taxpayers of the city. In fact, we're lowering out concession prices to normal supermarket levels, and we've decided against moving our fans out of the season tickets they've had for decades by pricing them out of their affordability range."

 

Wait..there's more....

 

"In fact, we're going to play nice with everyone. We're not going to go after high-priced talent. We have so much money coming off of our payroll, rather than invest it back in the team, we'll pocket it. Remember in the mid-80s and early 90s when we averaged about 26,000 in attendence? We'll head back there again, becoming a mediocre team that struggles to draw 1.8 million. Why give the city of New York a winning team? We should let Tampa Bay, and Baltimore and Toronto a chance. Even those jolly guys up in Boston. We make so much money from our stadium, or network, our marketability...but we should curtail our own spending so the Twins and Royals of the world have a better chance.

 

Why? You see, I read this post on a board from a guy named TheKilo who kept complaining about all the money we spent, and I thought...You know? He's right! Why should we, the richest team in sports, use our resources to our advantage? We'd be idiots to do so! We should curtail our spending, finance our own ballpark, and not sign any good free agents...because he thinks so! Who cares about maintaining a good team that gets good ratings, or drawing 4 million fans a year, or any of that jazz? By God, even though we're not doing ANYTHING against the collective bargaining agreement, we should still run a poor business model, like the CEOs of major companies, who make millions of dollars in golden parachutes while their companies go under. Why give New York a winner when we can just pocket all the money? Why can't we be like John Moores, the Padres owner, who's tearing his team apart because of a nasty divorce? I mean come on...have you read his posts? Check them out. We feel God-awful about reinvesting the profits of our team and putting it back in the product. Please tell him and all the fans like him, that we are very, very sorry, and we'll never do it again."

 

Now...do you see how foolish you sound? Once and foreall, CASE CLOSED.

[TheKilo]

Does that make it right? I'm not complaining, simply asking.

[Gom]

Does that make it right? I'm not complaining' date=' simply asking.[/quote']

 

In what way? For baseball? For the city? For the fans? For the fans of the game? For the Yankees?

 

Quite simply, the Yankees are doing what they should be doing. If you don't like it, blame Selig, blame Bloomberg...but they are doing EXACTLY what they should...and what EVERY OTHER TEAM WOULD DO IF THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.

[TheKilo]

For the fans, Gom.

[Gom]

For the fans' date=' Gom.[/quote']

 

All baseball fans? Yankee fans? The fans who are taxpayers?

[26 to 6]

Where are you getting 39%? The Yankees have received $1.5 billion from the city of New York.

 

Quit being a tool.

Wikipedia.

 

I still don't see where you get $1.5 billion from the CITY? Where do you even get $1.5 billion? I have one guy saying $1.5 billion of city money, which absurd, then I have another guy saying it's city and federal money, which I wasn't aware of. I mean $1.5 bil is ridiculous, that would mean that not a cernt came out of Steinbrenner's pocket for this Stadium, which is just absolutely false.

 

Oh, and another fact that's being overlooked here is that the Yankees won't even be owning the Stadium, they'll just be playing there rent-free from the city. The city owns both the old and new Yankee Stadiums. It might not seem too relevant, but I don't think everyone is aware of that.

 

What a f***ing idiot. Do you really think the Yankees are going to abandon New York City? These guys have the money, they're just looking to steal it to protect their own wallets.

 

The Yankees have NO leverage. They aren't going to leave the city. You and the other members of the harem refuse to read evidence that would contradict your Great Leader and Dear Leader. What a bunch of tools.

It was being threatened for years while Steinbrenner was trying to get the city to fund a west-side Stadium for the Yankees in the '90s. There was a legitimate possibility of the Yankees heading over and joining the Jets and Giants in Jersey. The possibility was there. You're the dumbass...eh, "tool" rather. Because I wanna be cool and call people tools.

 

Take your tool and go do something with it.

http://rocky.digikey.com/weblib/Cooper%20Tools/Web%20Photo/AC16V.jpg

 

...don't mind me, I just find it the term "tool" when being used as an insult extremely annoying and completely stupid. It's not something you hear around here too much, but this kid I met this weekend drove me crazy with it calling all these people "tools." Really can't think of something better?

 

My tax money isn't being used for this, so why should I bitch?

Paradisecity says it is.

 

But if you live out side of NYC, this means nothing to you at all.

Paradisecity says it does.

[CrespoBlows]

Wikipedia.

 

lol

 

I still don't see where you get $1.5 billion from the CITY? Where do you even get $1.5 billion? I have one guy saying $1.5 billion of city money, which absurd, then I have another guy saying it's city and federal money, which I wasn't aware of. I mean $1.5 bil is ridiculous, that would mean that not a cernt came out of Steinbrenner's pocket for this Stadium, which is just absolutely false.

 

The Yankees and Mets are asking the city for $450 million more in public bonds to finance their new ballparks, on top of nearly $1.5 billion they were already granted, according to the city's Economic Development Corp.

 

In the Yankees' application, the team is asking for another $259 million in tax-exempt bonds and $111 million in taxable bonds, on top of $940 million in tax-exempt bonds and $25 million in taxable bonds already granted for its $1.3 billion stadium.

 

Oh, and another fact that's being overlooked here is that the Yankees won't even be owning the Stadium, they'll just be playing there rent-free from the city. The city owns both the old and new Yankee Stadiums. It might not seem too relevant, but I don't think everyone is aware of that.

 

Fail.

 

Do you have any idea how much it cost the city to own the Yankees? The Yankees get the profits. The city pays for the maintenance, plus loses out on the revenue they could have got from putting something else there.

 

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9907EEDE1631F935A1575BC0A961958260

 

It was being threatened for years while Steinbrenner was trying to get the city to fund a west-side Stadium for the Yankees in the '90s. There was a legitimate possibility of the Yankees heading over and joining the Jets and Giants in Jersey. The possibility was there. You're the dumbass...eh, "tool" rather. Because I wanna be cool and call people tools.

 

There was no possibility. It was killed when Steinbrenner couldn't get New Jersey to pony up. Giuliani loved being in those parades. It also helps when cultist like you gobble every crumb they throw at you.

 

http://slerp.rutgers.edu/retrieve.php?id=120-2

 

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1299.xml?ReleaseID=762

 

 

 

Take your tool and go do something with it.

http://rocky.digikey.com/weblib/Cooper%20Tools/Web%20Photo/AC16V.jpg

 

...don't mind me, I just find it the term "tool" when being used as an insult extremely annoying and completely stupid. It's not something you hear around here too much, but this kid I met this weekend drove me crazy with it calling all these people "tools." Really can't think of something better?

 

I'm calling you a tool, because you are being used like a device by Yankee officials and city politicians. You are one of the mindless drivel that accepts what you hear from your Great Leader (Steinbrenner) and your Dear Leader (Bloomberg). Despite massive amounts of empirical evidence, as well as how overwhelmingly simple it should take to understand this dilemma, you continue to believe that your Leader is really not ripping people off. The fact that this is the one of absolute worst display of a private entity colluding with government to rip off the other class of $1.5 billion dollars should deserve any thinking man's scorn. Oh, but you have Steinbrenner's sack in your throat.

[26 to 6]

How do i fail? You didn't even provide a link to a source to back up your information, for all I know you wrote that out of your ass. And how is it fair to call me a tool when the information isn't made very availabvle, I'm open to any accurate information anyone has to throw at me, I just haven't seen anything to prove factually that the city is paying for the ENTIRE Stadium. You say it, but you don't prove it. Prove it. Show me.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_stadiums#References

There's the wiki link that states that Yankee Stadium is only 39% tax/government funded. Laugh out loud if you want, but at least they have sources and references to back it up. People who do the research from an impartial perspective and not with the bias of a Yankee-hating Red Sox fan. So please, until you show me a link to substantiate your claims you need to shut up.

[CrespoBlows]

How do i fail? You didn't even provide a link to a source to back up your information' date=' for all I know you wrote that out of your ass. And how is it fair to call me a tool when the information isn't made very availabvle, I'm open to any accurate information anyone has to throw at me, I just haven't seen anything to prove factually that the city is paying for the ENTIRE Stadium. You say it, but you don't prove it. Prove it. Show me.[/quote']

 

Wow.

 

Massive fail.

 

I've already told you where you can find the link. This is the same story I f***ing posted two days ago.

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g-a4lA4T9aUAbpfCA5zyuVDPoPuAD94UV8G80

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_stadiums#References

There's the wiki link that states that Yankee Stadium is only 39% tax/government funded. Laugh out loud if you want, but at least they have sources and references to back it up. People who do the research from an impartial perspective and not with the bias of a Yankee-hating Red Sox fan. So please, until you show me a link to substantiate your claims you need to shut up.

 

A f***ing Wikipedia link, and you're giving me s*** about writing stuff in the article? You are the biggest f***ing idiot on the board. That article also says the government is only paying 31% for CitiBank Field. Besides, when was that last updated? My article is from the 8th, when the Yankees asked for another $385 million to push the total over the $1.3 billion projected cost. Of course, this doesn't include the massive amounts of upkeep the city has to pay for, because they are leasing the team to Steinbrenner. He doesn't even have to pay rent where his stadium is. That's another $10 million a year saved.

 

BTW. check your wikipedia article out.

[Gom]

Never mind.

[Paradisecity]

 

Paradisecity says it is.

 

 

Paradisecity says it does.

 

http://www.foxbusiness.com/video-search/m/21333813/yankee-stadium-bond-funding.htm

 

Its not that they receive direct federal funding in the form of cash- its that the federal government, WE, as taxpayers, are in effect subsidizing this (which in its own way, is an indirect source of funding in that it lowers the price paid putting the toll on the taxpayers).

 

WE help fund it. The dumb chick with boobs who can't even say the name of your team right gets it. Do you?

[Paradisecity]

BTW, notice that corporation the man speaking sounds like he is on an educational council but the last word on his firm's title is in fact "corporation"... AKA this man is a lobbyist.

[Gom]

I fail to see the issue though. Isn't this what a business is supposed to do? Make money?

[Paradisecity]

Oh no Gom. I agree with you completely that if I were a business and it was legal I would try to do it. The firs tthing they teach you in B school is that as a manager your priority is to maximize return to your investors.

 

But that certainly doesn't mean that we as those that are getting fleeced shouldnt be upset about it. Thats how these things work. If those being robbed never complain they'll keep getting robbed.

 

As far as the main argument against the yankees- the entire point was a response to UB40's quote about how the the yankees could argue against those saying their spending spree was bad business during an economy such as this :

 

The Yankees, however, contend they have $88 million coming off their payroll and will have a lower payroll in 2009. Plus, they are moving into a new stadium that promises to keep their revenues high. - page 12 of this thread.

 

I just think its pathetic and when they actually use the stadium as a reason to JUSTIFY the spending it is both ironic and ridiculous.

 

They are just using the system- and when it comes down to it in the end it is the system's fault, and ours for not whining enough to have it changed, just as every law and rule essentially comes down to the public's outcry. But in using this system they are being bitches about everything else involved, and making themselves look very bad to those who understand the financials behind it.

[CrespoBlows]

I fail to see the issue though. Isn't this what a business is supposed to do? Make money?

 

The issue is that a private entity that makes billions of dollars is colluding with government to take money from the working class.

 

That's my main source of concern, and it worries me that people are so ready to concede that this is just part of life.

 

Why? Who the f*** is telling us this s***? Why are we so eager to buy into it?

[Gom]

I am not defending what the Yankees are doing as much as I'm saying this is what they are SUPPOSED to do. Make money. You guys are blaming a business for making themselves profitable, which shows a level of stupidity unheard of here since JHB was an active poster.

 

Now..that being said...the blame falls on the government that allows it. You don't blame a dog for pissing on the floor, you blame the owner.

[rician blast]

I am not defending what the Yankees are doing as much as I'm saying this is what they are SUPPOSED to do. Make money. You guys are blaming a business for making themselves profitable, which shows a level of stupidity unheard of here since JHB was an active poster.

 

ESPN radio had someone on last week (sorry, didn't catch who it was and can't remember who the host was) that said they LOSE money...and also said that the FO doesn't like it to be known that they're losing money.

 

Anyone know if this is true? Do the Yankees run an operating loss?

 

Edit: Per the article below, they did lose $ in 2008.

 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/25677773

 

Oh, and 2005 and 2006:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2557770

 

However, apparently they turn a profit once YES operating income is included. YES was jammed down our throats years ago, and as I recall one year my bill went up for one reason and one reason only...carrying cost of YES increased. So they f***ed me then...and apparently are f***ing all of us again to the extent federal funds, a;beit indirect, are being used for the stadium build.

[CrespoBlows]

ESPN radio had someone on last week (sorry, didn't catch who it was and can't remember who the host was) that said they LOSE money...and also said that the FO doesn't like it to be known that they're losing money.

 

Anyone know if this is true? Do the Yankees run an operating loss?

 

Only if you don't include the team's other related investments. The Forbes magazine report did not include the YES Network, which rakes in a lot of cash. They also sold a portion of the YES Network for a hefty sum.

 

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/how-much-is-your-team-really-worth/

 

The main reason is the TV contract. Forbes doesn't factor this into a team’s revenue and profit calculation. Effectively the Yankees “sell” their TV rights at a huge discount to YES Network. YES is part-owned by the Yankees but it keeps money away from the beady eyes of the revenue sharing police. It also distorts Forbes’ valuation. As a case in point, the Sports Business Journal reports that YES will distribute $250 million to its partners, one of whom is the Yankees. Does this appears in Forbes' profit or revenue estimate? No.

[26 to 6]

Wow.

 

Massive fail.

 

I've already told you where you can find the link. This is the same story I f***ing posted two days ago.

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g-a4lA4T9aUAbpfCA5zyuVDPoPuAD94UV8G80

 

 

 

A f***ing Wikipedia link, and you're giving me s*** about writing stuff in the article? You are the biggest f***ing idiot on the board. That article also says the government is only paying 31% for CitiBank Field. Besides, when was that last updated? My article is from the 8th, when the Yankees asked for another $385 million to push the total over the $1.3 billion projected cost. Of course, this doesn't include the massive amounts of upkeep the city has to pay for, because they are leasing the team to Steinbrenner. He doesn't even have to pay rent where his stadium is. That's another $10 million a year saved.

 

BTW. check your wikipedia article out.

I might be a little lost about this whole thing but you, my friend are the idiot. First off, the city doesn't own the TEAM, just the Stadium. Steinbrenner isn't leasing the team you moron. And it's not Citibank Field, just CitiField. And UI didn't see you post the article, it was in another thread overloaded with so many conversations...thank you for posting it here and enlightening me, that's all I asked for. As for the wiki link, idk when it was updated or where the information came from. It lists the references though so go check it out if you want, I was just providing the information I came across. And the Yankees didn't ask for another $385 Mil, wasn't it around $250 Mil? While you may have some of the information correct, sometimes I think you pull parts of it out of your ass. This $1.5 bil your claiming the city has given to the Yankees is wrong. A combined $1.5 bil was given to the Yankees and Mets, not just the Yankees.

 

And lets not overlook this from your article

As part of a deal still being worked out for the additional financing, city officials say the Yankees have agreed to some givebacks. Those could include putting money into public parks and infrastructure near their new home in the Bronx.

 

And as for these federal tax-exempt bonds, from what I've read about it and just saw in Paradisecity's link, they were created for just this purpose. How can you complain about someone using a tool for what it's intended for? While I still don't understand the whole situation fully, you guys have given me a better understanding of it, along with your insults and whatnot (which of course in turn made me reply with insults when you guys could have just been educating me on the manner, not being stuck-up BlowSox fans and s***ing on the yankee fan with every opportunity given). While I respect your points and what you're saying, you need to open up your mind and get all of your facts straight, because some of them are a little off. $1.5 Billion for one team, as you claim, is outrageous. It makes more sense that it was divided between both teams. You, however failed to mention that in your criticisms of Steinbrenner and the Yankees. You need to put the bias aside when analyzing facts of this nature, otherwise it just leads to you spreading false information.

 

http://www.foxbusiness.com/video-sea...nd-funding.htm

 

Its not that they receive direct federal funding in the form of cash- its that the federal government, WE, as taxpayers, are in effect subsidizing this (which in its own way, is an indirect source of funding in that it lowers the price paid putting the toll on the taxpayers).

 

WE help fund it. The dumb chick with boobs who can't even say the name of your team right gets it. Do you?

Thank you for the additional insight, I do get it a little more now.

 

...btw, her boobs don't seem too nice, but you cant really tell I suppose.

[26 to 6]

The issue is that a private entity that makes billions of dollars is colluding with government to take money from the working class.

 

That's my main source of concern, and it worries me that people are so ready to concede that this is just part of life.

 

Why? Who the f*** is telling us this s***? Why are we so eager to buy into it?

All you can do though is go to the government with your concerns. I agree with them. But these programs were created for these purposes, so that's what they'll be used for. Believe it or not, I do agree with you though, as I've stated several times throughout this discussion that I don't condone what they're doing, but I can't fault them either for being good business people. And like I said, it's a shame that their business success in regards to the Stadium has to come at our expense, but they're just doing a good job at what they do, unfortunately.

 

At first, I took exception to most of your stances in this debate because it seemed like an anti-Yankee attack, but when you present it from an impartial standpoint, which most of you failed to do at first I see your points more clearly and can relate and agree with them easier. Keep that in mind.

[CrespoBlows]

I might be a little lost about this whole thing but you' date=' my friend are the idiot. First off, the city doesn't own the TEAM, just the Stadium. Steinbrenner isn't leasing the team you moron. And it's not Citibank Field, just CitiField. And UI didn't see you post the article, it was in another thread overloaded with so many conversations...thank you for posting it here and enlightening me, that's all I asked for. As for the wiki link, idk when it was updated or where the information came from. It lists the references though so go check it out if you want, I was just providing the information I came across. And the Yankees didn't ask for another $385 Mil, wasn't it around $250 Mil? While you may have some of the information correct, sometimes I think you pull parts of it out of your ass. This $1.5 bil your claiming the city has given to the Yankees is wrong. A combined $1.5 bil was given to the Yankees [b']and[/b] Mets, not just the Yankees.

 

In the Yankees' application, the team is asking for another $259 million in tax-exempt bonds and $111 million in taxable bonds, on top of $940 million in tax-exempt bonds and $25 million in taxable bonds already granted for its $1.3 billion stadium.

 

The Yankees have already received $965 million, they asked for another $360 million. That's more than what the stadium costs. Are you really this f***ing dense? How hard is this to comprehend?

 

 

And as for these federal tax-exempt bonds, from what I've read about it and just saw in Paradisecity's link, they were created for just this purpose.

 

That doesn't smell fishy to you? The city and the Yankees changed the law to get this through. This isn't hard to comprehend.

 

How can you complain about someone using a tool for what it's intended for? While I still don't understand the whole situation fully, you guys have given me a better understanding of it, along with your insults and whatnot (which of course in turn made me reply with insults when you guys could have just been educating me on the manner, not being stuck-up BlowSox fans and s***ing on the yankee fan with every opportunity given). While I respect your points and what you're saying, you need to open up your mind and get all of your facts straight, because some of them are a little off. $1.5 Billion for one team, as you claim, is outrageous. It makes more sense that it was divided between both teams. You, however failed to mention that in your criticisms of Steinbrenner and the Yankees. You need to put the bias aside when analyzing facts of this nature, otherwise it just leads to you spreading false information.

 

 

Thank you for the additional insight, I do get it a little more now.

 

...btw, her boobs don't seem too nice, but you cant really tell I suppose.

 

You're the only that doesn't seem to get it. This is getting annoying. The only that is showing bias, is you toward your team. I don't like the practice as a whole, and would be equally disgusted if the Red Sox were to fleece the city of Boston of $1.5 billion.

 

You're being insulted, because your logic and justification is about what a five year old would come up with. It's insulting to everyone's intelligence to read your theories of fail.

[CrespoBlows]

All you can do though is go to the government with your concerns. I agree with them. But these programs were created for these purposes, so that's what they'll be used for. Believe it or not, I do agree with you though, as I've stated several times throughout this discussion that I don't condone what they're doing, but I can't fault them either for being good business people. And like I said, it's a shame that their business success in regards to the Stadium has to come at our expense, but they're just doing a good job at what they do, unfortunately.

 

At first, I took exception to most of your stances in this debate because it seemed like an anti-Yankee attack, but when you present it from an impartial standpoint, which most of you failed to do at first I see your points more clearly and can relate and agree with them easier. Keep that in mind.

 

The saddest part of the whole discussion is that this is what people think of when the word "Good Business" comes up.

 

To me, it shows the disgusting nature of the abuse of power that government will use to get things done. And the extent that business will go through in order to protect its bottom line. It is the furthest thing from good business. It involved the practice of dishonesty, misinformation, and omission to help Steinbrenner build his stadium. This should be repudiated by every person in New York City, but I understand of the limits these people have. A few concerned citizens cannot impact the process.

[Paradisecity]

Hey- I tried to be unbiased. I originally wrote one sentence. Not even a sentence- a fragment. Then was insulted by UB40 who essentially told me that I was naive and ignorant, then after putting him in his rightful and uneducated place was told (by you) to stop talking about it because I was wrong- and if you'll read my last post here before this one, its about as unbiased as it gets. I get them doing it. I dont get people wondering why I am pissed off about it (everyone should be) and saying its ridiculous.

 

It IS ridiculous- for almost EVERY team that does it (some it makes sense for, but not ones who are the leading spender in their job field, have the largest TV market in the nation and have the highest ticket revenue by far in the game).

 

Most well known sports team in nation (maybe cowboys but with immigration influx I'd argue yanks)

+

Quarter of a billion in spending in one week

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Most Expensive Ballpark created already subsidized and funded with local and national tax dollars

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Asking for 200M over what they'd already received in the same week as their spending

 

=

Context

 

 

See: GM flying by private jet to ask congress for billions because they can't run their company profitably.

[pinstripezac]

Hey- I tried to be unbiased. I originally wrote one sentence. Not even a sentence- a fragment. Then was insulted by UB40 who essentially told me that I was naive and ignorant' date=' then after putting him in his rightful and uneducated place .[/quote']

 

 

 

 

http://uploads.neowin.net/forum/post-21440-1142223479.gif

 

 

you took a cheap shot at the yankees

 

then you admitted what they did was legal and normal

 

then you focused your aim on the proper target

 

and took several shots at the system

 

which all had merit but hardly belong in a thread about manny and tex

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you took a cheap shot at the yankees

 

then you admitted what they did was legal and normal

 

then you focused your aim on the proper target

 

and took several shots at the system

 

which all had merit but hardly belong in a thread about manny and tex

 

Where the f*** do you come up with all these silly pictures?

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Where the f*** do you come up with all these silly pictures?

 

 

 

troll school ;-)

 

no seriously how did you know I had photos of 26-6

 

I haven't posted any of them yet