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There is a list a mile long of player's, past and present, who were douchebags, but that doesn't diminish what they bring in talent on the field. Manny Ramirez is one of the top 5 hitters of the last 10 years in baseball, bar none. You don't just ignore stats like that when you want to compete in the toughest division in baseball. It's not like the Yankees haven't had their share of *******s before, what's one more if it gets you a pennant.

 

 

I know he's '' one of the top 5 hitters of the last 10 years in baseball, bar none. ''

 

do we need a #3 or 4 ? yeah I think so, but we can trade for 1

 

and there are plenty of teams that have won without this guy

 

I'd rather not root for a guy who bullies a 65 yr old travel secretary

 

we have only talked about the contract / off the field stuff

 

 

the guy is a clown on the filed

 

who needs it

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Conspiracing? How was I? I'm just disagreeing with him.

 

Not conspiracy, conapiracing, it's the new, hip way to say it.

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There was a point made on EEI that made a lot of sense. Their point was that the yankees really dont want to get locked into a 1b for the long term. This is due to the likelihood that Posada, Jeter and ARod will all occupy the position at some point in the next 8 yrs and locking the position down takes away some of the roster flexibility. Instead of locking up a 1b for the next 8 yrs, it may be more feasible to get a short term boost to the offense (like Manny for 3 yrs) then either develop or sign a power hitting middle infielder, catcher or third baseman.
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Jacko,

 

You want to save a position for a player that has never played it, will be considered extremely below average offensively [not Arod] instead of getting a younger, better offensive and defensive player at a premier offensive position?

 

That's like saying we shouldn't sign CC because Mussina may unretire or Pettitte may want to retire as a Yankee, and we have to save the roster spot.

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There was a point made on EEI that made a lot of sense. Their point was that the yankees really dont want to get locked into a 1b for the long term. This is due to the likelihood that Posada' date=' Jeter and ARod will all occupy the position at some point in the next 8 yrs and locking the position down takes away some of the roster flexibility. Instead of locking up a 1b for the next 8 yrs, it may be more feasible to get a short term boost to the offense (like Manny for 3 yrs) then either develop or sign a power hitting middle infielder, catcher or third baseman.[/quote']

f*** WEEi, I've been making that point on here for weeks.

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Uh...yeah. He is.

For real? :lol:

 

no silly you wouldn't insult me, I'm a nyy fan

 

you would embarrass me, you should save that crap till someone ask for it

Did you just call me silly? So you're an 11 year old homo?

 

And IIIIIII would embarass you? You're an embarrassment to Yankee fans everywhere. And as for insulting, you really need to learn how to organize your thoughts and words and keep them f***ing straight. If you're not 11 you dropped out of school in the 5th grade because you have no reading, writing, or thinking skills.

 

 

As for Manny...we are all aware of his antics. We are also all aware of his abilities. I think if he came home on a 2 or 3 year deal to the Red Sox arch-rival (how many times over the past few years did he say he wanted to play for the Yankees to stick it to the Red Sox?), in a new beautiful Stadium that has gorgeous clubhouses bigger than some peoples homes, I think he would produce. Would we still have to deal with "Manny being Manny" from time to time, sure. But I think if he came along, the front office and coaching staff would quickly establish some ground rules in Spring Training to get him in check. I know Girardi is a hard-ass and won't take much s***, no matter how much the player makes. Aside from that I just have a feeling he would adore playing in NY, a stones throw from where he grew up, with all his hometown family and friends able to watch him everyday and keep him grounded. I think it's a good match on the short-term, and apparently although Cashman doesn't like the idea, both Hal and Hank do and are going to make a strong push.

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Jacko,

 

You want to save a position for a player that has never played it, will be considered extremely below average offensively [not Arod] instead of getting a younger, better offensive and defensive player at a premier offensive position?

 

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I would think it's more likely jeter goes to LF when he leaves SS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Teixeira to choose between Red Sox and Nationals within 48 hours

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

47 hours later

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii262/pinstripezac/deal.jpg

 

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii262/pinstripezac/bastg.jpg

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You're a dumbass then for making that point. How do you get cute girls with big tits' date=' 26?[/quote']

I'm sayin though, when we have Jeter locked up unable to play shortstop and need a place to put him where does he go if we have another high-profile, overpriced free agent locked in for 8 years. I just don't like the long-term commitment. If he would sign on for 4-5 years I would be mroe open to it, but i say we spent enough on pitching, let Tex go elsewhere, keep 1B open (we just cleared it up after being occupied for 7 years, do we really wanna fill that hole for another 8?), and move onto Manny who will give us superior offensive production. in 3-4 years if Posada or Jeter need to be moved, they can learn the position and move over there. Jeter is athletic enough to make the adjustment. If we could get Mattingly back on board after he's done with the Dodgers (who knows what those chances are though) they would have a great teacher. Granted, they wouldn't be as good as a natural gold-glove 1Bman, but I don't want to watch another star make $20+ Mil into the twilight of his career.

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I would think it's more likely jeter goes to LF when he leaves SS

I doubt it. Jeter can't play the outfield. He claims he is uncomfortable with judging fly balls (go figure when you consider how good he is at handling infield pop-ups), he lacks range, and he doesn't have the arm to play out there.

 

What gives you this indication, just a hunch or do you actually have something concrete to back it up? I'm guessing it's a hunch, and you don't seem to have very good hunches.

 

 

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii262/pinstripezac/deal.jpg

 

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii262/pinstripezac/bastg.jpg

..btw nice picture sequence, very entertaining :lol:

I'll give you props for something.

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Did you just call me silly? So you're an 11 year old homo?

 

 

 

yes I did, I was trying to be kind

 

what's wrong with you silly , why bash gays if you have a problem with me

 

there is no reason for that

 

once again you embarassed us in yankeeland

 

 

 

 

I think if he came home on a 2 or 3 year deal to the Red Sox arch-rival (how many times over the past few years did he say he wanted to play for the Yankees to stick it to the Red Sox?),

 

 

why don't you think about the fact if you give him a 2 year contract

 

you are already starting off with an unhappy manny

 

 

 

 

some worry about cano hanging with melkey

 

won't it be great for cano to watch manny every day

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You have a point, but I think Cano is more focused now. Who knows, it could be a problem. But I think with Manny, plus CC and Burnett we already punched our ticket tot he World Series. We tentatively have the best offense and startign rotation in the game. Not to mention Mo in the back end. With Manny I become increasingly assured that we win a World Series before C.C. bolts in 3 years.
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I'm sayin though' date=' when we have Jeter locked up unable to play shortstop and need a place to put him where does he go if we have another high-profile, overpriced free agent locked in for 8 years. I just don't like the long-term commitment. If he would sign on for 4-5 years I would be mroe open to it, but i say we spent enough on pitching, let Tex go elsewhere, keep 1B open (we just cleared it up after being occupied for 7 years, do we really wanna fill that hole for another 8?), and move onto Manny who will give us superior offensive production. in 3-4 years if Posada or Jeter need to be moved, they can learn the position and move over there. Jeter is athletic enough to make the adjustment. If we could get Mattingly back on board after he's done with the Dodgers (who knows what those chances are though) they would have a great teacher. Granted, they wouldn't be as good as a natural gold-glove 1Bman, but I don't want to watch another star make $20+ Mil into the twilight of his career.[/quote']

 

So you want a 750 OPS 1B? That's what Jeter will be.

 

This is the most asisinine point most Yankee fans make. Jeter, like every other player, will run his course. If Jeter cannot play SS, he should move to 3rd base, where his strong arm will compensate for his lack of range. Arod should move back to SS or possibly 1B. Not Jeter. Posada and Jeter are above average hitters at their position, but below average hitters at 1B.

 

Thank God you aren't running the team 26. You'd keep Jeter on the team until he's 50.

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silly willy '' I doubt it. Jeter can't play the outfield. He claims he is uncomfortable with judging fly balls (go figure when you consider how good he is at handling infield pop-ups), he lacks range, and he doesn't have the arm to play out there.''

 

I never heard him say that, and it would be wierd considering how good he is with pop ups

 

I know arod has said similar things

 

the only way I can see jeter saying that would be if he was joking

 

when someone asked if he should move to CF

 

 

What gives you this indication, just a hunch or do you actually have something concrete to back it up?

 

 

you can call it a hunch, his arm is good enough for LF

 

and his numbers would be more in line with a LF than a 1B ( not that, that matters much to me )

 

I figure he like anyone else, is going to resist the thought of giving up SS

 

but if you have yogi and all his rings in the room how can jeter say no

 

 

I'm guessing it's a hunch, and you don't seem to have very good hunches.

 

 

I don't know I think my hunch about you

 

is standing pretty tall

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You have a point' date=' but I think Cano is more focused now. .[/quote']

 

 

not sure who you are talking to

 

you really should learn how to use the quote button ;-)

 

but you got cano's problem correct

 

that's why if we can't , I mean don't get texeria

 

we should go for adam LaRoche from the pirates

 

he can help cano like no other 1B can

 

 

 

startign rotation in the game. Not to mention Mo in the back end. With Manny I become increasingly assured that we win a World Series before C.C. bolts in 3 years

 

 

OMG 1st no quote button and now no spell check

 

and all this time I thought you were the perfect poster

 

we still need a 200 ining 500 pitcher before we can brag about that rotation

 

and I wouldn't worry to much about CC leaving in 3 yrs

 

some one still has to out bid us if we still want him

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So you want a 750 OPS 1B? That's what Jeter will be.

 

This is the most asisinine point most Yankee fans make. Jeter, like every other player, will run his course. If Jeter cannot play SS, he should move to 3rd base, where his strong arm will compensate for his lack of range. Arod should move back to SS or possibly 1B. Not Jeter. Posada and Jeter are above average hitters at their position, but below average hitters at 1B.

 

Thank God you aren't running the team 26. You'd keep Jeter on the team until he's 50.

I'm just throwing it out there. Personally I don't like the idea of moving Jeter to third. I guess he'll just have to play it out at short and we'll suffer. There's really nowhere for him to go.

 

I never heard him say that, and it would be wierd considering how good he is with pop ups

 

 

the only way I can see jeter saying that would be if he was joking

 

when someone asked if he should move to CF

Just because never heard him say it doesnt mean he didn't say it. He said it in an SI interview back in 2001. It was a joint article about him and A-Rod and their friendship after A-Rod signed with the Rangers, before all the Esquire ******** went down.

 

And when the idea was thrown around a few years ago of moving Jeter to center he expressed his concerns then too, and no it wasn't a joke.

 

I don't know I think my hunch about you

 

is standing pretty tall

You don't know s*** about me, so don't pretend you do. And don't f***ing call me "silly willy" again bro, you're just making yourself look bad.

 

not sure who you are talking to

 

you really should learn how to use the quote button ;-)

 

but you got cano's problem correct

 

that's why if we can't , I mean don't get texeria

 

we should go for adam LaRoche from the pirates

 

he can help cano like no other 1B can

There's no need to use the quote button when my post is right beneath yours, idiot. And how do you figure LaRoche could help Cano? Help him with what? What problem did I get correct, all knowing Zac? I said he sometimes didn't focus. How is Adam Laroche (who ironically has ADHD and doesn't take medicine for it) gonna help Cano focus? Ass-clown.

 

OMG 1st no quote button and now no spell check

 

and all this time I thought you were the perfect poster

 

we still need a 200 ining 500 pitcher before we can brag about that rotation

 

and I wouldn't worry to much about CC leaving in 3 yrs

 

some one still has to out bid us if we still want him

There's a differnece between misspelling and a typo. What I did was a typo, what you constantly do is misspell because you didn't pay attention in 2nd and 3rd grade. Maybe we should get Adam LaRoche to help you learn to pay attention better.

 

And why wouldn't you worry about C.C. leaving? He clearly doesn't really like it here, and if someone is willing to give him close to what the Yankees offer he's gonna take it. He had no choice this year due to the economy, nobody was going to come close to our offer. But in 3 years, with (hopefully) a better economy that shouldn't be as big a problem. Frankly if we win a World Series by the time he opts out I let him walk. I don't like the ******** games he's played with us. If he doesn't want to be here, and just wants to come aboard on the short-term for the big payday then f*** him.

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silly willy '' And how do you figure LaRoche could help Cano? Help him with what? What problem did I get correct, all knowing Zac? I said he sometimes didn't focus. How is Adam Laroche (who ironically has ADHD and doesn't take medicine for it) gonna help Cano focus? Ass-clown.''

 

 

wow he got the answer right

 

but doesn't even know it

 

 

all that cano needs is for laroche to share his meds

 

and a bigger

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii262/pinstripezac/00cano1.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

silly willy '' And why wouldn't you worry about C.C. leaving?He clearly doesn't really like it here, and if someone is willing to give him close to what the Yankees offer he's gonna take it.

 

 

 

amny ( don't worry it's only a typo ) players have been traded to ny

 

not thinking they would like it ( #21)

 

 

and when was the last time ny lost a player they had and still wanted

 

other than maybe andy

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Despite the fact that it looks like this zac character is typing with his schwanz, he's blasting 26 to bits in this discussion. And I don't even agree with his idea that Manny should be blacklisted. He obviously can't/won't come back to the Sox, but if I'm the fan of another team, I'm interested.
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Wait how is he blasting me to bits? I own this kid.

All of his points are based on opinion and are poorly thought out. To say he is "blasting me to bits" is humerous. Read the thread. He points to Adam LaRoche as being able to help Cano, doesn't say how or why, I point out that LaRoche has ADD and he comes out with a joke to make it seem like he knows what he's talking about. He doesn't. Just because we've had our squabbles in the past is no excuse to give this mental-midget the upper hand in a battle he is so clearly losing.

 

all that cano needs is for laroche to share his meds

LAROCHE DOESNT TAKE MEDS.

 

http://beta.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=2446449

The first baseman tried medication while playing winter ball in Puerto Rico a couple of years ago, but didn't like the way it made him feel.
Posted
Despite the fact that it looks like this zac character is typing with his schwanz' date=' he's blasting 26 to bits in this discussion. And I don't even agree with his idea that Manny should be blacklisted. He obviously can't/won't come back to the Sox, but if I'm the fan of another team, I'm interested.[/quote']

I would read the posts, but I already gouged my eyes out.

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Look at this idiotic suggestion-

 

do we need a #3 or 4 ? yeah I think so, but we can trade for 1

Why trade the farm for a big bat when we can just sign one? Makes no sense when you have one of the best right handed hitters in the history of the game on the open market. I dont get it.

Posted
Wait how is he blasting me to bits? I own this kid.

All of his points are based on opinion and are poorly thought out. To say he is "blasting me to bits" is humerous. Read the thread. He points to Adam LaRoche as being able to help Cano, doesn't say how or why, I point out that LaRoche has ADD and he comes out with a joke to make it seem like he knows what he's talking about. He doesn't. Just because we've had our squabbles in the past is no excuse to give this mental-midget the upper hand in a battle he is so clearly losing.

 

 

LAROCHE DOESNT TAKE MEDS.

 

http://beta.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=mlb&id=2446449

He's winning with wit. You have none. His bit about LaRoche was an obvious joke. Only a total twit gets into an irrelevant semantical argument about the veracity of whether or not Laroche takes meds to manage his ADD. Even worse, that twit can't even get the facts straight.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/pirates/2007-07-18-PiratesADD_N.htm

 

Look at the dates.

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Got me on that one.

 

And you're right, i am letting him get to me and getting into ridiculous arguments with him, but you of all people know how I can be when someone tweaks me :lol:

 

But this clown, with his s***-brown font and unreadable writing just rubs me the wrong way (especially when he calls me silly willy).

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Originally Posted by pinstripezac

all that cano needs is for laroche to share his meds

 

silly '' LAROCHE DOESNT TAKE MEDS.

 

http://beta.espn.go.com/espn/wire?se...mlb&id=2446449

 

 

I never said he did , all I said is he could share them

 

of course I could have said he did, if I thought that was relevant

 

to making a joke with a point

 

 

http://savannahnow.com/node/139824

 

That's a short-sided explanation, LaRoche said, of the fact that his offense improved after he started taking a low-dosage combination of Ritalin and Concerta in June - something he revealed to Morris News Service in late July.

 

 

 

silly '' Why trade the farm for a big bat when we can just sign one? Makes no sense when you have one of the best right handed hitters in the history of the game on the open market. I dont get it.

 

of course you don't get it

 

you don't understand what manny is

 

and you don't want to give texeria the years ( that has merit )

 

so what's left..... you make a trade

 

 

if SD has to hold off on PV they might want to trade gonz

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you don't understand what manny is

I do understand what Manny is, and I've acknowledged it plenty, both before and after you joined the site. But I also have to recognize something else that Manny is, and that's an incredible hitter. Without Manny you can argue that the Sox are still hearing chants of 1918 when they play in New York. When you have the kind of leadership on this team that you do, where players are very vocal with each other about how to act and what not to do, I really think Manny can come in motivated and produce. What he does before and after games I don't give a s*** about, as long as he's on the field, putting up his usual Manny numbers. I don't understand how anybody could not want Manny. You have to put his BS to the side and recognize the talent he has. Plus he's a local talent, which is always nice to see :D

 

And is it really that difficult to type Peavy?

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