July 18th vs. Kansas City

[schillingouttheks]

so scoring average of 4 runs a game good?

 

He didn't say it was good. But he's right in that scoring 4 runs a game should be enough to beat f***ing Kansas City 2/3 nights.

[a700hitter]

Do you hear this BS from Bob Ryan: "Do we take Tim Wakefield for granted?" Is it possible to take a .500 pitcher for granted?

[jacksonianmarch]

The Royals now have a better record over their last 46 games than the sox do.

[schillingouttheks]

Yeah, I caught that. He eats innings. I can't complain if he's a 5th starter on our team, but he's a f***ing 3 right now. I can't take that for granted.

[schillingouttheks]

The Royals now have a better record over their last 46 games than the sox do.

 

Look jacko, I like you and all, but SHUT THE f*** UP. Now's not the time.

 

Thanks.

[a700hitter]

It would be very refreshing to hear Tito say that "JT is spent. He's had nothing for the last month. I'd like to sit him down, but I have no one else." and instead of "yah the Royals have a very good bullpen" I'd rather hear, " we should be winning series against these teams at home. Losing this series is not acceptable."

[schillingouttheks]

He really does need to grow a pair and publicly challenge his f***ing players.

 

We need to get into a brawl or something. I don't know what, but something needs to motivate this team.

[jacksonianmarch]

He really does need to grow a pair and publicly challenge his f***ing players.

 

We need to get into a brawl or something. I don't know what, but something needs to motivate this team.

 

you would think that the yankees bearing down on them would give them a sense of urgency.

[a700hitter]

At least JT took accountability for sucking.

[schillingouttheks]

you would think that the yankees bearing down on them would give them a sense of urgency.

 

They'll probably feel pretty content until they're 4 out.

 

At least JT took accountability for sucking.

 

It seems like players think taking accountability for poor performances makes us as fans feel better about them. If anything, it makes me a little nervous to think that JT knows he sucked tonight for the fifth time in a row.

[jacksonianmarch]

4 out?? What makes 4 games so great?

[schillingouttheks]

4 out?? What makes 4 games so great?

 

You're nervous at 5 but not breaking yet. Then it gets worse at 4.

[jacksonianmarch]

You're nervous at 5 but not breaking yet. Then it gets worse at 4.

 

At 5, a bad week can have you tied. At 6, it would take an incredibly bad week to get you tied. At 4, a crappy week can get you tied. My marker all along has been 5. We are now within 5 in the WC, so that is when the excitement returns. For the division, we'll see what happens this week.

[Rdsxmbnt]

wow i guess its too much to expect this team to beat the royals these days. this team needs a SP badly, tavarez and wake suck and the back end is badly exposed right now.

[schillingouttheks]

At 5' date=' a bad week can have you tied. At 6, it would take an incredibly bad week to get you tied. At 4, a crappy week can get you tied. My marker all along has been 5. We are now within 5 in the WC, so that is when the excitement returns. For the division, we'll see what happens this week.[/quote']

 

This team is very capable of losing 4 games on its lead in one week. That's why I said 4.

[Cityofchampions33]

Frustrating game (and series in all) tonight, especially when Tavarez gave up 4 runs that one inning. Not too worried though, the Yankees have chipped away at our big lead before, and though they are making progress, don't forget how hard it is to close in on what was once a 12 game lead. When Schlling gets back I say we move Tavarez to the pen and keep Gabbard up,call up Lester, or look at trade possibilities. Wakefield is having his expected streaky season and won't be like this all year. Once the old Wake, Schill, and the new 5th starter rejoin the aces, Beckett and Daisuke, we should go back to this year's strength which is our pitching staff.

[Cocos Disciples]

Ugh, that f***ing sucks. I think Theo's gonna make a fairly big move at the deadline.

[castigs850]

With the deadline approaching and nothing that is deserving of great interest being (publically) shopped, i think our season turning around could be laid on Schilling's shoulders on how effective he is when he returns. However terrible that is to think about. It's either him or Gabbard/Lester taking the 5 spot and aweing us start after start.

[Khan]

Get Mark Buehrle.

 

EDIT: HOLY f*** TAVAREZ. f*** YOU. f*** YOU. f*** YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU.

 

Hey Tito! Where ya been?

 

 

That just about says it all for the last few nights.

 

I would luv to see Pap in the starting rotation, but can't see that this year. Even if you get a good closer, or setup guy for Okinawa, you still need to stretch out Pap. So you send him to the Paw Sox for a few weeks and do not have him untill say what, mid August. And even then, you're still left with a few question marks: how is Pap going to perform as a starter, Oki as a closer, whom-ever as your setup guy. And all that with the Yanks picking up steam.

 

You either gota go get another starter or bring up one of those kids and stop screwing around. Although, with the way things are going, maybe they should just go get Wayout Wasdon anad call it a day!

[jacksonianmarch]

With the deadline approaching and nothing that is deserving of great interest being (publically) shopped' date=' i think our season turning around could be laid on Schilling's shoulders on how effective he is when he returns. However terrible that is to think about. It's either him or Gabbard/Lester taking the 5 spot and aweing us start after start.[/quote']

 

You guys need to remember where you are from. I live in Mass now too, and I listen to EEi and the other stations that come in. The signs are there. The panic is starting to set in. And EVERYONE was CRUCIFYING Schilling right before he went on the DL. IF Theo does nothing to address the rotation, AND Schilling returns as the shitbag he was when he left, someone will pay. Someone will have to. Last season, the signs just started right near the deadline. This season, the signs started in early June and are VERY apparent right now with the sox losing a series at home to the RoyAAAls who didnt even have their best 2 pitchers throwing. It is Spahn and Sain, pray of rain all over again. Except nowadays, teams have 5 man rotations. Right now, it is Becks and DMats then buh. If Schilling contributes to the buh and the yankees continue to roll through the shitbums over the next 3 weeks, you guys might be facing off with us in late August for the division instead of just protecting a big lead. Because as it is right now, if Beckett and DMats dont win both of their games, there is a damn good chance you will be under .500 in that turn of the rotation. And that is not how you play winning baseball.

[foultip]

I don't know about 1978 but this looking more and more like 2006 by the day

[MANNYHOF24]

Again I am still not too worried, I mean let's face it, this has happened two times so far this year. The Yankees have basically had two good stretches all year, and both times they were coupled with the Red Sox poor play, I don't think the Yankees are as good as they are playing and I think the Red Sox are much better than they are playing right now. Watch us take 3-4 from the White Sox and have the Yankees lose 3-4 and the lead will be back up to 9 games. As much as we look horrible right now, it is still going to be pretty hard to blow this lead, unless of course Julian Tavarez stays in the rotation...

[jacksonianmarch]

Again I am still not too worried' date=' I mean let's face it, this has happened two times so far this year. The Yankees have basically had two good stretches all year, and both times they were coupled with the Red Sox poor play, I don't think the Yankees are as good as they are playing and I think the Red Sox are much better than they are playing right now. Watch us take 3-4 from the White Sox and have the Yankees lose 3-4 and the lead will be back up to 9 games. As much as we look horrible right now, it is still going to be pretty hard to blow this lead, unless of course Julian Tavarez stays in the rotation...[/quote']

 

the yankees success is coupled directly with the red sox failures. I know it seems obvious, but with a 6 game lead, we still need some serious help to overtake you guys.

 

BUT, when you have a rotation that is 2 deep and ours goes a pretty solid 4 (and maybe 5 with Hughes), deficits can be made up. We shall see. I wont be shocked if the yankees crawl back into the hole they were in, but given their play right now and their recent history, I have a slight feeling you may have a fight on your hands.

 

And the sox have only them to blame. Had they played .600 ball like they were playing rather than .490 ball they are playing now, they would still have a double digit lead.

[Gom]

Teams slump all the time. It happens. I do admit though, my team has been playing well of late. I can't believe Sox fans are falling apart like this. They still have a 7 game lead on us.

[castigs850]

I'm praying for some more hammy injuries at this point.

[yankees228]

Again I am still not too worried' date=' I mean let's face it, this has happened two times so far this year. The Yankees have basically had two good stretches all year, and both times they were coupled with the Red Sox poor play, I don't think the Yankees are as good as they are playing and I think the Red Sox are much better than they are playing right now. Watch us take 3-4 from the White Sox and have the Yankees lose 3-4 and the lead will be back up to 9 games. As much as we look horrible right now, it is still going to be pretty hard to blow this lead, unless of course Julian Tavarez stays in the rotation...[/quote']

 

I think the stretch the Yankees are on right now, is much more positive, long term wise, than the one in June. When the Yankees got hot in June everyone was playing great, and they were blowing teams out. This time it's very different.

 

Not everyone is playing great. But they're still winning. A-Rod hasn't had a great July. Before his final two AB's last night Abreu was 0-15 (i think). Damon, batting out of the leadoff spot, has been awful. As for the rotation, no one is going out there and giving great starts like they were doing in June. The bullpen, outside of Rivera and Vizcaino, has been awful. They're not playing exceptionally great baseball, but they're still winning games.

 

The possibility was there in June that they would take a turn for the worse, because you knew they weren't going to play great baseball forever. On top of that, they had to go out to the West Coast. At this point they've shown they can win games without playing great baseball, and there is no West Coast trip in the immediate future. I'm much happier with this team now then I was with them during the first winning streak.

[Sox fan in Tex]

Teams slump all the time. It happens. I do admit though, my team has been playing well of late. I can't believe Sox fans are falling apart like this. They still have a 7 game lead on us.

 

We're 20-23 since June 1st. Our once 14 game lead has been cut in half very quickly. As Sox fans, I believe we have every right to get pissed off and panic a bit with the way this team is playing. It's unacceptable.

[jacksonianmarch]

We're 20-23 since June 1st. Our once 14 game lead has been cut in half very quickly. As Sox fans' date=' I believe we have every right to get pissed off and panic a bit with the way this team is playing. It's unacceptable.[/quote']

 

I agree. I look at is as, what is the problem and is it temporary? If your lineup wasnt hitting enough or Papelbon goes on a little bad streak, then you an chalk it up to inevitability and wait for them to snap out of it. If it is personell in your rotation, then that problem is not temporary. Take a look at this....

 

Starters from July 1st on...

 

DMats- 2-1 4.74ERA

Beckett- 1-1 3.21ERA

Gabbard- 2-0 2.14ERA

Wakefield 2-1 6.75ERA

Tavarez 0-3 8.05ERA

 

Now some may claim that Wakefield will bounce back, but then others can say Gabbard will fall back. There are arguments on both sides that could be valid regarding Schilling. But what is most telling is the sox stats since June 1st, which show the starting rotation's ERA sitting at 4.69 and a WHIP of 1.4. This isnt a short term issue here. If Schilling comes back as the inconsistent guy he has been all season, then this rotation could be a long term problem.

[Gom]

Man, I can't believe that I defending Sox fans here. You guys are really short-sighted here. The Yankees have a stretch in August where they play the Indiands, Orioles, Detroit, Angels, Detroit, and Boston in a three week stretch. Do you guys seriously think the Yankees will GAIN ground during that stretch?

 

I think the Yankees chances for the post-season are better than when I left, as I do not fear the Mariners of the Twins in the least. That means, out of the Tigers, Guardians, and Red Sox, we only have to beat one team to get in the playoffs. I doubt it will be the Red Sox though.

[ORS]

[table]Month|RS|RA|OPS|OPSA|W|L

June|112|112|.761|.720|12|14

July|77|64|.833|.733|7|8[/table]

 

They've clearly been better than their opponent, but it hasn't translated to wins. That happens sometimes. With that kind of statistical superiority, the wins will come.