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The guy's career WHIP is north of 1.42. This year' date=' it's touching 1.49.[/quote']

 

He's 23...and he's always had to nibble. He's played in Tampa where, until recently, giving up 2 runs would get him a loss...

 

Get him some work with a good pitching coach and onto a team where he'll get some serious run-support and he's a bonafide ace.

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He's 23...and he's always had to nibble. He's played in Tampa where, until recently, giving up 2 runs would get him a loss...

 

Get him some work with a good pitching coach and onto a team where he'll get some serious run-support and he's a bonafide ace.

 

Give Hughes some Major League time and he could be a bona fide ace.

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Give Hughes some Major League time and he could be a bona fide ace.

 

So we agree that they both need some work...but do you think that an unrefined Kazmir is better than an unrefined Hughes? I do.

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So we agree that they both need some work...but do you think that an unrefined Kazmir is better than an unrefined Hughes? I do.

 

No. Hughes has all of Kazmir's stuff with control. Give him time. He was throwing a frieking no hitter in his second start for god sakes. And this wasnt a Bud Smith all contact no-no. He had these guys baffled the entire game.

 

And no I dont think Hughes is an ace, RIGHT NOW. But he very well could be a middle of the rotation type pitcher and could be an ace in the very near future. People dont seem to like him because the hardest he'll hit on a night is 96 or 97. I just dont get it. Maybe he looks too young to be good?

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dont look now, but the Guardians are in a free fall. They are now tied with the tigers for 1st in the central and 1st in the WC. But the Guardians have lost 3 in a row, 7 of 10, and 9 of 15. I have said before and I'll say it again. The Guardians dont have staying power. The Tigers do.
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dont look now' date=' but the Guardians are in a free fall. They are now tied with the tigers for 1st in the central and 1st in the WC. But the Guardians have lost 3 in a row, 7 of 10, and 9 of 15. I have said before and I'll say it again. The Guardians dont have staying power. The Tigers do.[/quote'] I've actually been scoreboard watching Cleveland more than Detroit in the last two weeks.
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Well, with the Sox winning and Verlander throwing a no-hitter, the Yankees haven't gained ground on either the division or the wild-card. However, with the Guardians slumping, the Yankees only need to beat out the loser of the AL Central. Here is the wild card standings as we speak:

 

AL WILD CARD

Team GB

Guardians -

Tigers -

Mariners 1

Athletics 3

Yankees 5 ½

Twins 5 ½

Blue Jays 7 ½

Devil Rays 7 ½

Orioles 8 ½

White Sox 9

Royals 13

Rangers 14 ½

 

Only 2 1/2 games to catch the A's.

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Detroit lost 6-5. Oakland and Houston are tied 5-5 in the sixth. Seattle is leading Chicago 4-3 in the eighth.

 

EDIT: Two RBI hit for Izturis and the Cubs take a 6-5 lead.

 

EDIT: Cubbies win!

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Slowly, but surely, the Yankees are climbing the ladder. At the end of today, here is the updated wild card standings, with us gaining a game on the Tigers and Mariners [and also the Sox].

 

AL WILD CARD

Team GB

Tigers -

Mariners 1

Athletics 1

Yankees 3 ½

Twins 3 ½

Blue Jays 6

Devil Rays 7 ½

Orioles 8 ½

White Sox 8 ½

Royals 12

Rangers 13 ½

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Sorry, the weekends are tough for me, but here is the updated wild card watch for the Yankees. Feel free to update this thread, but as it stands now, we are only 3 1/2 games out of the wild card, and trail only the Mariners, A's and Tigers. Let's keep it going.

 

AL WILD CARD

Team GB

Tigers -

Athletics 1

Mariners 2

Yankees 3 ½

Twins 4 ½

Blue Jays 5

Devil Rays 8 ½

White Sox 8 ½

Orioles 9 ½

Royals 12

Rangers 13 ½

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The Guardians are the team to watch. The Tigers will run away with the central. The Guardians are 4 games up on us in the Loss column and the Mariners are falling back to the pack. I have a feeling it will be a 3 team race with Oakland and us running ahead and Cleveland eventually lagging behind.
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See, I disagree with you there. The Guardians are my pick to win the division. This is still a Tigers team that was terrible two years ago. The whole team kind of caught lightning in a bottle last year.

 

The Yankees will leave Oakland in the dust. This will, in my mind be a three team race with the Yankees, Red Sox, and Tigers, with two out of three making it. Just my opinion here.

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See, I disagree with you there. The Guardians are my pick to win the division. This is still a Tigers team that was terrible two years ago. The whole team kind of caught lightning in a bottle last year.

 

The Yankees will leave Oakland in the dust. This will, in my mind be a three team race with the Yankees, Red Sox, and Tigers, with two out of three making it. Just my opinion here.

 

Umm, Detroit's pitching staff is very, very good. They are going to be in it for a long while.

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Wow, so the Tiger's weren't good two years ago, and that means they won't win the Central. Yeah, that makes sense.

 

The Tigers' staff is excellent, they play good D, and have a very potent offense. I think they'll win the Central fairly easily going down the stretch because I think the Tribe pitching has been smoke an mirrors to this point.

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I think the Guardians are more talented. I think that the Tigers, while being a good team, caught lightning in a bottle last year and will falter more down the stretch.

 

I know a lot of you think the same about the Guardians. Fair enough. I just like the overall talent on the Guardians more.

 

Anyways, here is the updated wild card standings. The Yankees gained a game on Seattle and Oakland, with no gain on the Tigers [or the Red Sox]. Next on the list for us is Seattle.

 

AL WILD CARD

Team GB

Tigers -

Athletics 2

Mariners 3

Yankees 3 ½

Twins 4 ½

Blue Jays 6

Devil Rays 8 ½

White Sox 9 ½

Orioles 10 ½

Royals 12

Rangers 13 ½

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That was kind of a pointless statement there.

 

Not really. Its a wild card race discussion, and I was commenting on the fact that seeing as we are all used to the D-Rays being 20+ games out at this point in the season, its odd too see them 8.5 games behind. Theoretically, a torrid month could put them in real contention. In practice it wont happen, but its funny to think about.

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Back to the race...the Nationals mounted a furious rally, scoring three runs in the bottom of the ninth, but with runners on the corners and two outs, the rally died. So as it stands now...

 

AL WILD CARD

Team GB

Tigers -

Athletics 2

Mariners 3 ½

Yankees 4

Twins 5 ½

Blue Jays 6 ½

Devil Rays 8 ½

White Sox 9 ½

Orioles 11

Royals 12

Rangers 14

 

All is not lost however. The Yankees gained 1/2 game on the Sox who got beaten up in Atlanta. Yanks AL East deficit down to 8 ORS's.

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Back to the race...the Nationals mounted a furious rally, scoring three runs in the bottom of the ninth, but with runners on the corners and two outs, the rally died. So as it stands now...

 

AL WILD CARD

Team GB

Tigers -

Athletics 2

Mariners 3 ?

Yankees 4

Twins 5 ?

Blue Jays 6 ?

Devil Rays 8 ?

White Sox 9 ?

Orioles 11

Royals 12

Rangers 14

 

All is not lost however. The Yankees gained 1/2 game on the Sox who got beaten up in Atlanta. Yanks AL East deficit down to 8 ORS's.

 

7 in the loss column.

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Wouldn't it be great if Beckett lost tonight? Twice through their rotation with two of their big three losing.
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Wouldn't it be great if Beckett lost tonight? Twice through their rotation with two of their big three losing.

It's less likely to happen than the statistical correction awaiting Pettitte. Take a look at the Hr/Flyball ratio, less than 1/3 of his norm, and they are in Coors Field. I hope he brought a neck brace, he might get whiplash.

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