Dontrelle to Yanks?

[Gom]

Both Foxsports and WFAN radio report that the Yankees have approached the Marlins about Dontrelle Willis, offering Humberto Sanchez and Melky Caberra. No word on the Marlins response [i think they would be nuts to agree, but I can hope, can't I?].

 

http://www.benmaller.com/#mlb_rumors_notes

[yeszir]

Ahhhh!

[Youk Of The Nation]

Please man, my blood is like pudding. Dont do that.

[BSN07]

GOM your gonna cause heart attacks for the weak hearted mebers of RSN with post like this:D

Yes it be a wonderful pick up for you guys, but i'm glad you kept your feet firmly on the ground by saying you could dream couldn't you:thumbsup: . To get Willis, your probably looking at Melky( which he realy isn't the type of OF they want, they want a CF, and Melky is shady at best in CF), Sanchez, and probably two more high prospects. I think you would have to depart with your farm ace Hughes.

 

The reason I think it would be so hi of a cost is as soon as teams find out that Willis is available, your going to have alot of teams interested and driving up the price. Most teams including the Red Sox( not saying they are but using them for argument sake) would easily beable to match a Melky, Sanchez package. EX. They could easily throw in Crisp/Ellsbury and two more of there arms that are in the minors. Which in my mind and not just because i'm a Sox fan is a better deal then what the NYY are offering. If Willis goes to NY, just expect to lose alot more prospects/players then just the two.

[Cocos Disciples]

This was posted on MLBTradeRumors...

 

All can relax.

[jsinger121]

Marlins easily could do better than Melky Cabrera and Humberto Sanchez.

[AlexanderTheGreat13]

That is a pretty silly trade offer.

[a700hitter]

The Marlins would ask for Wang and Melky, and maybe settle on Hughes and Melky.

[Gom]

I wouldn't trade Wang for Willis straight up.

 

I'm just reporting what I heard driving home, and then found online, with the disclaimer that the Marlins would be nuts to agree. Maybe Marlins ownership hates the Sox, and figures that getting Ramirez and Sanchez wasn't enough. Who knows?

[a700hitter]

I wouldn't trade Wang for Willis straight up.

 

I'm just reporting what I heard driving home, and then found online, with the disclaimer that the Marlins would be nuts to agree. Maybe Marlins ownership hates the Sox, and figures that getting Ramirez and Sanchez wasn't enough. Who knows?

I am sure that Marlins' management is motivated by hatred of the Red Sox. Too bad they didn't take that into account before they beat the Yankees in the 2003 World Series.

[riverside sluggers]

Josh Beckett

Marlins get Hanley Ramirez, Anibal Sanchez, Harvey Garcia, Jesus Delgado

 

Dontrelle Willis

Marlins get Melky Cabrera, Humberto Sanchez

 

Yeah Marlins asked that much from Boston because they have pure hatred for them... then take it up the ass by the Yanks for giving up Dontrelle for a lot less than Boston's package for Beckett?

[TheKilo]

LOL.

[nickw308810]

We also got Lowell, and the player everyone forgets Guiellermo Mota, who was supposed to be a huge part of our bullpen before he was included in the Crisp deal. Oh well though, he has fell off since his days setting up Gagne.

[Soxfan1]

They said no to Hansen and Elsburry yet they're supposed to be considering this?

[riverside sluggers]

We also got Lowell' date=' and the player everyone forgets Guiellermo Mota, who was supposed to be a huge part of our bullpen before he was included in the Crisp deal. Oh well though, he has fell off since his days setting up Gagne.[/quote']

 

The Sox had to take Lowell because it was a salary dump attached to Beckett, and Mota was added because of Boston's concerns about preliniary bad reports on Beckett's shoulder

[Cocos Disciples]

I wouldn't trade Wang for Willis straight up.

 

I'm just reporting what I heard driving home, and then found online, with the disclaimer that the Marlins would be nuts to agree. Maybe Marlins ownership hates the Sox, and figures that getting Ramirez and Sanchez wasn't enough. Who knows?

 

 

Yea since the Yanks are everyone's favorite team!

[nickw308810]

The Sox had to take Lowell because it was a salary dump attached to Beckett' date=' and Mota was added because of Boston's concerns about preliniary bad reports on Beckett's shoulder[/quote']

Agreed, but that doesn't diminish the fact that Lowell is a decent hitting 3B with gold glove caliber defense and Mota was a guy with some upside as well. We didn't just get Beckett in return, we got 2 other decent major leaguers. I for one was happy with how Lowell played and Mota had some trade value for us. You can't look at the deal without factoring those two into it.

[ARod2212]

I've mentioned this possible trade a couple of times, before the rumors started. Don't sell Cabrera short defensively, he can play all three positions well.

 

Personally I'm not that high on Willis, and probably wouldn't trade Melky and Sanchez.

[Gom]

Yea since the Yanks are everyone's favorite team!

 

No, I think Wang is a better pitcher than Dontrelle. That's why. I would trade Wang for Halliday or Santana, because they are better...get the drift here?

[Cocos Disciples]

No' date=' I think Wang is a better pitcher than Dontrelle. That's why. I would trade Wang for Halliday or Santana, because they are better...get the drift here?[/quote']

 

Not exactly sure what you're talking about here...read the 2nd half of the quote.

[TheKilo]

No' date=' I think Wang is a better pitcher than Dontrelle. That's why. I would trade Wang for Halliday or Santana, because they are better...get the drift here?[/quote']

 

 

 

You're quite the homer, aren't you?

 

On what planet is Wang a better pitcher than Dontrelle Willis?

[ARod2212]

You're quite the homer, aren't you?

 

On what planet is Wang a better pitcher than Dontrelle Willis?

I'd rather have Wang, without question. This isn't being a homer, this is me looking at a guy whose already proven he can pitch in the AL East vs. a guy who hasn't. Until Willis shows to me he can do it here, I prefer Wang.

[a700hitter]

I'd rather have Wang' date=' without question. This isn't being a homer, this is me looking at a guy whose already proven he can pitch in the AL East vs. a guy who hasn't. Until Willis shows to me he can do it here, I prefer Wang.[/quote']The yankees wish you were the Marlin's GM.

[redsoxrules]

I'd rather have Wang' date=' without question. This isn't being a homer, this is me looking at a guy whose already proven he can pitch in the AL East vs. a guy who hasn't. Until Willis shows to me he can do it here, I prefer Wang.[/quote']

 

proven ? he's had one full year in the AL . wait this year his ERA will jump at 4.5 at least

[TheKilo]

I'd rather have Wang' date=' without question. This isn't being a homer, this is me looking at a guy whose already proven he can pitch in the AL East vs. a guy who hasn't. Until Willis shows to me he can do it here, I prefer Wang.[/quote']

 

 

Wang's peripherals aren't as good as his numbers were this last year. If he reverts to the mean what happens then?

 

Willis has performed at a MUCH higher level thsn Wang has. Wang had a 121 ERA+ this year (when he was supposedly the second best pitcher in the AL)

 

Last year Willis had an ERA of 153+. In a supposed down year this year, he had one of 112+.

[ARod2212]

If you can name me one former Marlin pitcher who's had a good year in the AL East I'll drop it. Until he shows me he can do it, I'm taking Wang.

[rician blast]

Willis may be better and he is younger, but it'd be pretty hard to justify any move of Wang at this point. He may be a Yank but damn the kid has been good...27-11 thus far in his MLB career.

 

What I'd really hate to see is him AND Wang in the same rotation, assuming the Yankees found a way to make a deal without losing Chin.

[Cocos Disciples]

That would take Hughes.

[example1]

I'd rather have Wang' date=' without question. This isn't being a homer, this is me looking at a guy whose already proven he can pitch in the AL East vs. a guy who hasn't. Until Willis shows to me he can do it here, I prefer Wang.[/quote']

 

SO by definition doesn't that mean that you would never trade for anyone in the NL? If Willis has to pitch for the Yankees before he pitches for the Yankees you're never going to get there. <_>

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

Dontrelle Willis is a better pitcher than Ching Wang.....that doesn't mean Wang couldn't beat him in a game necessarily. Overall Willis has better stuff and a great personality (something Wang does not pocesses).