your red sox to do list

[americanoutlaw]

Who the sox need to DFA OR Released

 

 

Who the sox need not resign

 

 

Who the sox need to move

 

 

who the sould resign

 

who sould sign as FA

 

what big moves sould sox do this offseason

[Beckett95]

Who the sox need to DFA OR Released

no one yet

 

Who the sox need not resign

Trot Nixon

Keith Foulke

Loretta

 

Who the sox need to move

Try to move Clement

Maybe Crisp in the right deal

same with Lowell

 

who they should resign

Alex Gonzalez

Wakefield (1 more year??)

Cora

Mirabelli (for 1 year)

 

who they should sign as FA

Matsuzaka--($60M over 5 years, 12M a year)

Steve Kline--($4M over 2 years, 2M a year)

Justin Speier--($7.5M over 2 years, 3.5M a year)

Fransisco Cordero--($18M over 3 years, 6M a year)

Jim Edmonds--(7.5 over 1 year, maybe 8)

a 4th OF (maybe Preston Wilson for $2.5M for 2007 only)

 

what big moves should the sox do this offseason

Trade Mike Lowell for Scott Linebrink (or any other quality reliever)

Trade Coco Crisp and a pitching prospect ( for Nick Johnson

[jsinger121]

They can't move Clement after he has a torn rotator cuff and labrum. And I would also not sell low on Coco Crisp.

[riverside sluggers]

who they should resign

Wakefield (1 more year??)

Mirabelli (for 1 year)

 

Wakefield has a lifetime contract with the Red Sox. Basically a cycle of option years, until the Sox say otherwise. 2007 is looking like his last season in the majors. Certainly wont be the last we see of him in Boston. A recent inerview had him talking about how he sees himself as hopefully a pitching coach for the Sox down the road.

 

EDIT: Also (if possible) Id like them evaluate the free agent backup catchers, and see who wouldnt mind working with Wakefield during the offseason. As we saw this past season, Varitek's stamina is in question and he's already at the age where catchers will just start to decline more.

 

Maybe its a pipe dream of mine... a free agent catcher this season is Rod Barajas. He's not likely to return to Texas since they want to hand the job to Gerald Laird. There wont be that much of a market for him this offseason, even some looking for a starter will be scared off by his career .282 OBP. None the less he has shown he has considerable pop, still making an instant upgrade over Mirabelli. He also has experience in the past of catching the knuckleball

[NoPepper]

Wakefield has a lifetime contract with the Red Sox. Basically a cycle of option years' date=' until the Sox say otherwise. 2007 is looking like his last season in the majors. Certainly wont be the last we see of him in Boston. A recent inerview had him talking about how he sees himself as hopefully a pitching coach for the Sox down the road.[/quote']

 

Mirabelli has to go though. If, like this year, Wake gets hurt, or gets put in the bullpen like in other years, we're stuck with him on the roster.

[NoPepper]

who they should sign as FA

 

Barry Zito, at all costs. If we don't out bid the Yankees, we'll see him in pinstripes and have to face him 4-5 times next year.

[riverside sluggers]

Barry Zito's starting price is somewhere around 5 years/$75 million. A pricey bidding war that if Sox actually won, would eat up funds away of what they also want to get (bullpen relief, a big bat if Manny is traded, etc.)

[NoPepper]

... a big bat if Manny is traded' date=' etc.)[/quote']

 

Manny's contract is up, at the end of next year (IRRC). This will free up much needed funds.

 

Regardless, the problem is if we don't get him, they will. The Sox will need even more help as a result.

[riverside sluggers]

Actually 2008 Manny's contract is up

 

Regardless about Zito, as of right now the consensus is that he wants to stay on the west coast

 

Besides Im banking on the Sox will make a hard run at Jason Schmidt

[NoPepper]

Actually 2008 Manny's contract is up

 

If we move him, though, there will be some salary relief. But it does complicate my wish list a bit.

 

Regardless about Zito, as of right now the consensus is that he wants to stay on the west coast

 

I hope so. I'm worried that George will put a horse head in his bed or something. Damon too claimed that he wouldn't play in NY.

 

Besides Im banking on the Sox will make a hard run at Jason Schmidt

 

I'm greedy. I want them both! I'm good at spending other peoples money.

 

Schmidt would be a great addition, assuming they don't buy him too. Ok, I'll stop now.

[Papelbon58]

Who the sox need to DFA OR Released

none come to mind

 

Who the sox need not resign

Trot

Doug Mirabelli

Foulke

 

Who the sox need to move

Manny Ramirez

Lowell

 

who they should resign

Gonzo

Wake for the pen

Loretta

 

who sould sign as FA

Matsuzaka

Schmidt

Roger Clemens

Gil Meche

Woody Williams

Dan Kolb

Russ Springer

Gary Matthews Jr.

Mark DeRosa

 

what big moves sould sox do this offseason

Manny Ramirez and Abe Alvarez to Astros for Brad Lidge, Wandy Rodriguez, Chris Burke and Jason Lane

 

or Ramirez package to Angels for Ervin Santana, Casey Kotchman, Juan Rivera and Donnelly or Escobar?

 

Lowell to Padres for Scott Cassidy and Scott Linebrink

 

Obviously I do not expect all of this to happen, but some of it would be nice.

[ARod2212]

Build a pitching staff, quickly. Try like hell to get some value for Manny Ramirez. I really don't think he wants to be there anymore. Find a closer.

[MANNYHOF24]

moving Manny Ramirez would be a terrible thing and everybody knows it. You cant replace Manny's bat, you just cant.

[User Name]

I honestly don't want to rid of Manny. I love him and all, and I realize why he should be moved, but I just don't want to see him go. I don't see anyone who could realistically replace him.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

moving Manny Ramirez would be a terrible thing and everybody knows it. You cant replace Manny's bat' date=' you just cant.[/quote']

 

Who cares if you can get top pitching for him....which you probably can't so we will most likely keep him.

[americanoutlaw]

]Who the sox need to DFA OR Released

Matt Clement

Kevin Jarvis

 

 

Who the sox need not resign

Mike Timlin

Trot Nixon

Mark Loretta "try to resign but no realy need"

Alex Cora "maybe try to resign"

Ken Huckaby

Keith Foulke

 

Who the sox need to move

Move Wake to the bullpen

Craig Hansen to the paw sox and keep him there for most of the season

Abe Alvarez BACK TO THE FARM

David Pauley sent him back to the farm

Mike Burns sent back to the farm

Bryan Corey sent back to the farm

Carlos Pena sent back to te farm but keep big time

[riverside sluggers]

]Who the sox need to move

Move Wake to the bullpen

Craig Hansen to the paw sox and keep him there for most of the season

Abe Alvarez BACK TO THE FARM

David Pauley sent him back to the farm

Mike Burns sent back to the farm

Bryan Corey sent back to the farm

Carlos Pena sent back to te farm but keep big time

 

Abe Alvarez was in Triple A for the whole season (albeit 2 games with Boston). He's not going to have a future with the Sox. They should just cut their losses altogether and cut him from the 40 man roster and say bye bye. Pauley has also spent the pas t season in Triple A, so its moot for you to say to "send him back to the farm". I see Bryan Corey getting a spring invite, but however I dont see Carlos Pena getting one. He wouldve gotten more playing time in their "countdown to vacation" games last month. Mike Burns will probably get DFA'd.

 

Also of note, expect Wakefield to be in the rotation next year which is looking like his last year anyway. I do agree with you about Hansen. The kid is 22, let him season more in the minors.

[jacksonianmarch]

Who the sox need not resign

 

none

 

Who the sox need to move

 

This is intriguing. I would look into moving Crisp, but would refuse to sell low. I would bill his 2006 as injury plagued and adjustment. His OPS in September was over 100 points higher than it was in july and august. Granted, at .758, he wont find many takers, but if someone is willing to write this yr off and give the sox top talent, then they have to make the deal. I personally think Crisp is shot and dealing him will get the most return vs what he could do on the field.

 

Lowell has to go. He is an older guy, but still in his prime who has lost his power now for 2 consecutive yrs. The sox have 2 3b's in Hinske and Youkilis and rumor has it that Lowell can get some MR help like Linebrink.

 

Another guy I think should be entertained is Pena. He hit for average for the first time and his OBP was nice, but his OPS was carried by his fast start. If he can be moved for some pitching, you do it, otherwise, you hang onto him and place him in RF and watch the circus and the long homers inbetween the myriad of K's.

 

who the sould resign

 

AGon if Lugo prices himself out of the market. He isnt a bad 9 hitter and he is fantastic in the field.

 

who sould sign as FA

 

Big ?? here. If Manny goes, then Lee or Soriano if no big bat comes back. If Manny stays, try to lure Sheff to Boston. The sox need more than just a dynamic 2 in the lineup and 7 ok guys. Having 3 solid middle of the order hitters is necessary with the flighty manny and his knee. If Lugo cannot be had, resign AGon. Otherwise, focus on pitching. If Paps is in the rotation, then the top 3 of Schill, Beckett, and Paps is nice with Wake as the 4. The sox will also have a pretty solid core of spot starters sitting around too, so depth shouldnt be an issue. BUT, expecting Beckett to elevate to a top starter, expecting Paps to be a top starter, relying on Schill as the ace after a huge decline at the end of the yr, and expecting Wake to stay healthy again is too much to put on a staff without adding a hoss. The sox need one big name starter, a guy who takes the bump, stays healthy, and logs huge innings. Zito fits the bill. Schmidt's injury history is scary. Matsuzaka is the big mystery, but a dollar for dollar war with the yankees is never a good thing, and the yankees have already made it clear that Zito is not on their radar....yet. If I were the sox, I'd throw 5 yrs 75 at Zito and watch as the sox starters improve dramatically.

 

The biggest problem will be the pen though. Taking the one constant from the pen and moving it to the rotation only weakens it further. The sox could use Linebrink from SD as a setup man. They could make a run at Cordero as closer. Lots of things will have to go right and many more players will need to fill in for this disastrous pen to work. Theo hasnt put a good one together yet, it is on him to fill this his way and make it work.

 

 

 

what big moves sould sox do this offseason

 

depends on Manny. If he is moved, then this team will need a full scale overhaul. Starting pitching, offense, and bullpen. This season was bad, if they dont make some big upgrades, it will just get worse.

[riverside sluggers]

Lowell has to go. He is an older guy' date=' but still in his prime who has lost his power now for 2 consecutive yrs. The sox have 2 3b's in Hinske and Youkilis and rumor has it that Lowell can get some MR help like Linebrink.[/quote']

 

Sorry, just miffed at what you mean about loss in power for 2 consecutive years. 2005 & 2006 are like night/day for Lowell. Only way Sox are able to move Lowell is if somehow they acquire a good slugging 1st baseman, or my pipe dream of Aramis Ramirez who seems likely to hit the free agent market. Hinske yes is by trade a 3rd baseman, but can only be considered as a backup at best.

 

Francisco Cordero... yes he would be the best option out there, but theres something called the 2007 option the Brewers have on him. Its not in the realm of possibility that they dont use that option and let him walk away to another team. Also, its all good & fine for Sox to offer Zito 5 years/$75 million... however do you realize that is Scott Boras' starting price?

[jcmlorettafan]

They need to sign Loretta

[americanoutlaw]

i like keep Carlos Pena around but as a back up

 

i think wake will be a lot more usful in the pen and with it the sox can get rid of the personal catcher deal

[jacksonianmarch]

Sorry, just miffed at what you mean about loss in power for 2 consecutive years. 2005 & 2006 are like night/day for Lowell. Only way Sox are able to move Lowell is if somehow they acquire a good slugging 1st baseman, or my pipe dream of Aramis Ramirez who seems likely to hit the free agent market. Hinske yes is by trade a 3rd baseman, but can only be considered as a backup at best.

 

Francisco Cordero... yes he would be the best option out there, but theres something called the 2007 option the Brewers have on him. Its not in the realm of possibility that they dont use that option and let him walk away to another team. Also, its all good & fine for Sox to offer Zito 5 years/$75 million... however do you realize that is Scott Boras' starting price?

 

 

I am not sure if Cordero will have his option picked up in Milwaukee. It is a 5 mil option when they already have Turnbow signed for 2+ mil next yr and a team full of guys who will either be arb ready or close to it.

[jsinger121]

They need to sign Loretta

 

really they don't

[jcmlorettafan]

my final word, is yes they do

[jsinger121]

my final word' date=' is yes they do[/quote']

 

I ask you why?

[Mr Crunchy]

wake in the bullpen??

a common scenario from wakes days in the bull from years gone by

 

top of the 8th,1 run game (he used to close for us)

wake comes in

walks the 1st guy on 4 pitches,he no longer has a personal catcher so then he throws 2 past balls and the sacrifice fly ties the game...the remote goes thru the tv,the girl leaves you because of your temper and you immediately start drinking like the plane is going down every time his name gets metioned for bullpen duty

[HeadOfSoxNation]

I ask you why?

 

 

Dude...no one really understands your love affair with Pedroia yet. The kid has showed amazing promise in the minors, but he didn't do anything in his opportunities in the bigs this year to tell me that he's ready to take the spot from a VERY solid veteran 2nd baseman who also happens to be one of the best #2 hitters in the game. There's nothing wrong with seeing a 15 or 16 year old girl and saying to yourself "Damn...she's going to be a knockout in 5 or 6 years."...there IS something wrong with dating them while they're 15 or 16. That's virtually what you're doing with Pedroia. It's simply not his time...YET.

[Papelbon58]

i don't know if Loretta will start next year, but he is undoubtebly worth having on the team. He did not do anything terrible to warrant his departure. He is getting old, but he could actually help Pedroia

[example1]

Dude...no one really understands your love affair with Pedroia yet. The kid has showed amazing promise in the minors' date=' but he didn't do anything in his opportunities in the bigs this year to tell me that he's ready to take the spot from a VERY solid veteran 2nd baseman who also happens to be one of the best #2 hitters in the game. There's nothing wrong with seeing a 15 or 16 year old girl and saying to yourself "Damn...she's going to be a knockout in 5 or 6 years."...there IS something wrong with dating them while they're 15 or 16. That's virtually what you're doing with Pedroia. It's simply not his time...YET.[/quote']

 

I understand his love affair with Pedroia. The kid is going to be a great player and he can only start to progress by PLAYING. Loretta is not the make-or-break player that people seem to be making him out to be. He's a good second baseman. Not great.

 

Sign him for a year, that's fine. But don't get all over those of us who want to want to start actually using some of the DEVELOPED talent that we have. Pedroia doesn't need more time in the minors.

[yankeessuck013]

Who the sox need to DFA OR Released

 

N/A

 

Who the sox need not resign

Trot

Doug Mirabelli

Foulke

Timlin

 

Who the sox need to move

Manny Ramirez

Lowell

Crisp?

 

who they should resign

Gonzo if lugo is too much

 

who sould sign as FA

Aramis Ramirez if CHI doesnt pick up option (same goes for torii hunter)

Daisuke Matsuzaka

Schmidt

Roger Clemens?

Barry Zito

Gil Meche/ cory lidle

Japanese closer Hirotoshi Ishii?

 

what big moves sould sox do this offseason

 

package manny or coco with a few prospects to HOU for lidge

 

manny package to Angels for Ervin Santana and another pitcher

 

Lowell to Padres for Scott Linebrink, prospect

 

ask FLA about Willis, ATL about Andruw, BAL about Tejada

just a few ideas...

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