July 5th @ Tampa Bay

[juliedon]

3ks nice bright side

[TheKilo]

I'd love it if Theo was talking to Atlanta.

 

 

At least Hansen looked good there. Might swing ATL's opinions.

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

that was impressive even though it was Norton, Branyon, and Wigginton

[TheKilo]

If Theo is not going to get serious about getting an experienced SP, I wouldn't mind seeing them give Hansen a spot start. He'd be a tremendous improvement over the medley of garbage that they have been sending to the mound every fifth day.

 

 

I'd honeslty like to see Snyder get another shot.

 

 

that was impressive even though it was Norton, Branyon, and Wigginton

 

You mean Ty "Babe Ruth" Wiggington?

[yeszir]

Smoltz is overrated. I''d rather see Hansen with the team to be honest.

[juliedon]

If Theo is not going to get serious about getting an experienced SP, I wouldn't mind seeing them give Hansen a spot start. He'd be a tremendous improvement over the medley of garbage that they have been sending to the mound every fifth day.

 

I doubt they'd even think of starting hansen

[a700hitter]

I'd honeslty like to see Snyder get another shot.

I think I'd prefer Dave McCarty.

[TheKilo]

I think I'd prefer Dave McCarty.

 

 

Why exactly? I'm not saying he's going to be a savior or anything, but he'd be an improvement over Johnson. You keep saying deal for a starter, deal for a starter, but you don't list any possibilities other than Willis or Smoltz, who would likely require moving Lester. Last i checked, Lester is our #4. So that seems a bit counterproductive.

 

 

The fact is the pitching market is dreadfully thin right now, but I think the team can be successful with the 4 guys they have at the top (provided Lester can go deeper into games). If Snyder can keep games competitive, or whoever they choose for the 5 slot can do that, then we'd be in good shape. Johnson can't do that.

 

 

Also, lost in all the pitching discussion is how bad the offense has been so far this series.

[a700hitter]

Coco is due.

[BoSox21]

offense has been absolutely pathetic this series

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

welll......s***.......Yankees pick up a game on us.....even when they lost 19-1 yesturday

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

make a move Theo

[mtbykr]

What a lousy game and series thus far---we go from winning every day to being on the verge of getting swept by these knuckleheads

[CrespoBlows]

NO!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

WE SUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[riverside sluggers]

sigh any fan will fall for their team when blank careless expressions are on their faces when the game is in hand to try and do anything

 

Popup, oh well

[Yolo-Golo-Va]

Not good. Nice work tonight Johnson. Wake up boys your back in the A.L.

[schillingouttheks]

If we go into the Chicago White Sox series off of being swept in 4 games by the Rays, this pre-All Star Break stretch will suck majorly.

[Yolo-Golo-Va]

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[yeszir]

DFA BECKETT DFA BECKETT!

 

Lest we forgot this team won what, 12 games in a row? We don't need to jump on the "make a move or else" bandwagon quite yet.

[schillingouttheks]

What's that URL? It doesn't work.

[a700hitter]

Why exactly? I'm not saying he's going to be a savior or anything, but he'd be an improvement over Johnson. You keep saying deal for a starter, deal for a starter, but you don't list any possibilities other than Willis or Smoltz, who would likely require moving Lester. Last i checked, Lester is our #4. So that seems a bit counterproductive.

Let's leave the creativity to Theo. I don't think he would move Lester for Smoltz, but he might move Hansen. Also, I am sure that other pitchers would become available for the right deal, e.g. Livan Hernandez. This dollar store 5th starter crap is not going to work.

[TheKilo]

NO!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

WE SUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Overall, no.

 

The last three games, well...

[riverside sluggers]

If we go into the Chicago White Sox series off of being swept in 4 games by the Rays, this pre-All Star Break stretch will suck majorly.

 

They also have a 4 game series in oakland after the All-Star break

 

Same thing happened last season as they ended June just scorching hot. In between the all-star break, 3 out of 4 to the O's and then 3 out of 4 to the Yankees

[a700hitter]

DFA BECKETT DFA BECKETT!

 

Lest we forgot this team won what, 12 games in a row? We don't need to jump on the "make a move or else" bandwagon quite yet.

I was saying that they needed to make a move for an experienced starter during the 12 game win streak. The 12-game winning streak covered up the deficiency temporarily, but it did not eliminate the problem.

[TheKilo]

Let's leave the creativity to Theo. I don't think he would move Lester for Smoltz, but he might move Hansen. Also, I am sure that other pitchers would become available for the right deal, e.g. Livan Hernandez. This dollar store 5th starter crap is not going to work.

 

 

I would move Hansen for Smoltz, definitely. I'll pass on Livan, though, an ERA pushing 6 in the NL isn't all that attractive.

 

I'd give Weaver a shot before Livan.

 

DFA BECKETT DFA BECKETT!

 

Lest we forgot this team won what, 12 games in a row? We don't need to jump on the "make a move or else" bandwagon quite yet.

 

 

That was against AAAA teams. Honestly, other than the Mets, none of the teams they beat were really impressive. Isn't Tampa one of the inferior teams in the AL?

 

I'm not overreacting, I think the Red Sox are easily one of the top 4 teams in the AL. The fact remains, with Wells and Clement on the DL, they only have a 4 man rotation right now, maybe 3.5 with the way Lester has struggled to give them innings. I think Snyder has the ability to help the team out by keeping them competitive in games. I agree with you that there is no need for a full blown panic move, but it's clear that Jason Johnson isn't the answer.

[schillingouttheks]

DFA BECKETT DFA BECKETT!

 

Lest we forgot this team won what, 12 games in a row? We don't need to jump on the "make a move or else" bandwagon quite yet.

Yes, this team won 12 straight, but that was with only one start from a 5 starter in Kyle Snyder. We got lucky, we would not have won 12 straight if it weren't for a day off or a rainout in there. We need a fifth starter. That streak ended because of our lack of a 5th starter.

 

I don't care if this team won 12 straight, that doesn't give them an excuse to lose 3 straight a team they should beat up on, especially when our top 2 pitchers in Schill and Beckett were pitching 2 of them.

[schillingouttheks]

They also have a 4 game series in oakland after the All-Star break

 

Same thing happened last season as they ended June just scorching hot. In between the all-star break, 3 out of 4 to the O's and then 3 out of 4 to the Yankees

Haha sorry to be picky, but that series is at home.

[yeszir]

I still think Smoltz would be an AL bust.

[a700hitter]

I still think Smoltz would be an AL bust.

This is a hunch?

[yeszir]

This is a hunch?

Look at how dominating the AL is compared to the NL. That's all I'm saying. Arroyo went over there and could potentially start the All Star game. A 39 year old who's never pitched in the AL isn't a sure thing at all.