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[cp176]

I hate to admit it, but the Smeltics are looking damn good so far this year!

 

 

(In case you're wondering, I lived in Milwaukee during the Alcindor/Jabbar years and remain a Bucks fan.)

 

Actually I always liked Kareem. Obviously not as much as Bill but he was a great player.

[moonslav59]

Actually I always liked Kareem. Obviously not as much as Bill but he was a great player.

 

My childhood favorite player was Bobby Dandridge.

 

I remember the Bucks losing to the Semltics in 7 games as Lucious Allen slipped on a warm-up jacket and blew out his knee before the series. I hated the Celtics for years, but now I appreciate what they have done to rebuild.

 

Also, I hated Danny Ainge after his coast-to-coast drive past every Notre Dame player in the 1981 NCAA tournament eliminated my Fighting irish. (I was at ND for that year as well as Joe Montana's 1977 championship season.)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWdQ6IClxTc

 

[cp176]

My childhood favorite player was Bobby Dandridge.

 

I remember the Bucks losing to the Semltics in 7 games as Lucious Allen slipped on a warm-up jacket and blew out his knee before the series. I hated the Celtics for years, but now I appreciate what they have done to rebuild.

 

Also, I hated Danny Ainge after his coast-to-coast drive past every Notre Dame player in the 1981 NCAA tournament eliminated my Fighting irish. (I was at ND for that year as well as Joe Montana's 1977 championship season.)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWdQ6IClxTc

 

 

Never good to hate Moon.(lol) I thought a lot of Dandridge as well but my favorite on that team was of course "the Big O" . Another one of the greats of all time. Ange played for us. Pretty much means I loved him. I was sad to see Notre Dame get squashed by Miami!

[moonslav59]

Never good to hate Moon.(lol) I thought a lot of Dandridge as well but my favorite on that team was of course "the Big O" . Another one of the greats of all time. Ange played for us. Pretty much means I loved him. I was sad to see Notre Dame get squashed by Miami!

 

Yeah, "hate" is a strong word, but as a kid, the frustration morphs into anger and sometimes boils over.

[Spudboy]

I hate to admit it, but the Smeltics are looking damn good so far this year!

 

 

(In case you're wondering, I lived in Milwaukee during the Alcindor/Jabbar years and remain a Bucks fan.)

 

Big Big O fan here.

 

I liked Wally Jones and Bobby Dandridge too.

 

Lucious Allen another John Wooden man.

Edited November 18, 2017 by Spudboy

[cp176]

Big Big O fan here.

 

I liked Wally Jones and Bobby Dandrige too.

 

Oh baby now I get to take you back - Wally Jones, Hal Greer (one of the best), Chet the Jet Walker, Luscious Luke Jackson, and of course that big guy in the middle - can't remember his name (just kidding) . that really was one hell of a team. They were just good enough one of those years too. Great great players who could have played in any era. Except for that one little bump in the road the C's weren't bad either over that 11 or 12 year span. Havlicek did steal the ball too!

[cp176]

I liked the way Barkley played, but after hearing him last night, i'm thinking that there is something he missed about what it takes to win and win big. Maybe he should have a conference call with Mr. Russell just to look at the 11 rings. It is a game that isn't always about pretty. As bad as smart looked last night, there were very few maybe even just one of his teammates who had a better plus/minus line. Sometimes you just got to keep on working.

[cp176]

I liked the way Barkley played, but after hearing him last night, i'm thinking that there is something he missed about what it takes to win and win big. Maybe he should have a conference call with Mr. Russell just to look at the 11 rings. It is a game that isn't always about pretty. As bad as smart looked last night, there were very few maybe even just one of his teammates who had a better plus/minus line. Sometimes you just got to keep on working.

 

Bet you can guess where that cp176 comes from now!

[moonslav59]

The Big O was pretty much over-the-hill by the time the Bucks got him, but even then, he was amazing.

 

People remember he averaged a triple double one year, but he also did it for a 3-4 combined year stretch to begin his career.

 

He revolutionized the "big guard" aspect of the game.

 

When Lucious Allen went down, it forced Oscar to be the point guard. The Celtics masterfully instituted a full court press from wire to wire and tired the Big O out. Mickey Davis filled in well, but ti wasn't enough.

 

Allen had averages 18 points (3rd on the team) and 5 assists (2nd) per game in 1974

 

Other Bucks on that 1974 runner-up team besides Jabbar, Dandridge & Robertson:

 

Jon McGlocklin

Curtis Perry

Cornell Warner

Dick Garrett

Terry Driscoll

[moonslav59]

I don't mean to bore anyone with talk of the Bucks, but that Bucks team of the early 70's could have been a dynasty. They drafted Julius Erving in 1972, but he went to the ABA and was later stolen from the Bucks by the Hawks.

 

The Bucks later drafted Alex English in 1976, but they let him slip away,

 

My favorite Buck of all time was Sidney Moncrief with Ricky Pierce not far behind (also Paul Pressey).

 

Another Bucks "what if": not trading Dirk Nowitzski for Tractor Trailor.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

I liked the way Barkley played, but after hearing him last night, i'm thinking that there is something he missed about what it takes to win and win big. Maybe he should have a conference call with Mr. Russell just to look at the 11 rings. It is a game that isn't always about pretty. As bad as smart looked last night, there were very few maybe even just one of his teammates who had a better plus/minus line. Sometimes you just got to keep on working.

Smart is a great defender but a s***** offensive player. It would be one thing if he recognized this and more or less stayed out of the way aside from performing his basic backup PG duties (a la Eric Snow), but he actively ruins possessions for us by chucking dumb shots and trying to be like James Harden. He has the confidence of Manny Ramirez, but the actual ability of Darnell McDonald.

[Spudboy]

The Big O was pretty much over-the-hill by the time the Bucks got him, but even then, he was amazing.

 

People remember he averaged a triple double one year, but he also did it for a 3-4 combined year stretch to begin his career.

 

He revolutionized the "big guard" aspect of the game.

 

When Lucious Allen went down, it forced Oscar to be the point guard. The Celtics masterfully instituted a full court press from wire to wire and tired the Big O out. Mickey Davis filled in well, but ti wasn't enough.

 

Allen had averages 18 points (3rd on the team) and 5 assists (2nd) per game in 1974

 

Other Bucks on that 1974 runner-up team besides Jabbar, Dandridge & Robertson:

 

Jon McGlocklin

Curtis Perry

Cornell Warner

Dick Garrett

Terry Driscoll

 

I played in pick-up games with Terry Driscoll at BC.

 

I also played with another buck, Greg Lee.

[moonslav59]

I played in pick-up games with Terry Driscoll at BC.

 

I also played with another buck, Greg Lee.

 

Cool.

 

I played a few games with Orlando Wooldridge, Tracy Jackson and Silk Wilcox while at ND. Played many more with some football players during the off season, including Jerome Heavens, Luther Bradley and Dave Waymer (RIP)- many were all state in basketball but came to ND to play football.

 

I lived in the only dorm that had mostly single rooms, so it was jock city. Joe Montana's room was just a few doors down from my room, but I never saw him in his room. (He lived "secretly" off campus.)

 

[cp176]

Smart is a great defender but a s***** offensive player. It would be one thing if he recognized this and more or less stayed out of the way aside from performing his basic backup PG duties (a la Eric Snow), but he actively ruins possessions for us by chucking dumb shots and trying to be like James Harden. He has the confidence of Manny Ramirez, but the actual ability of Darnell McDonald.

 

About Smart - he looked god awful offensively the other night for sure. Good thing that Defense counts. Ultimately, he winds up helping his team. Pretty to watch - he ain't. Glad he plays for us though.

[Spudboy]

15-2 Baby.

 

15 wins in a row.

 

Of course the National media poo-poos the 15 game streak. Who have the Celts beaten, anyway?

 

The only teams that are seen as stiff comp that they have not beaten are Houston and Cleveland. You could ad a healthy San Antonio, I suppose.

 

If they stay healthy and learn to play their offense as well as the rest of their game, they are going to be really tough to play in the spring.

[cp176]

15-2 Baby.

 

15 wins in a row.

 

Of course the National media poo-poos the 15 game streak. Who have the Celts beaten, anyway?

 

The only teams that are seen as stiff comp that they have not beaten are Houston and Cleveland. You could ad a healthy San Antonio, I suppose.

 

If they stay healthy and learn to play their offense as well as the rest of their game, they are going to be really tough to play in the spring.

 

When you have the best player on the court, you always have a chance to win. K. Irving

Watching Tatum and Brown have a chance to develop makes the trades look all that much better. They needed more than just 15 minutes per game.

[cp176]

They really did not look very good as a group against Dallas last night but once again - when you have the bast player on the court you always have a chance. Can't get over how bad Smart can look at times and at how big he turns up at others!

[cp176]

Celtics looked pretty pedestrian last night. Outplayed by Detroit. Drummond was a monster. Horford could not deal with him at all. I would like to see Morris play with a little more aggression to. At least with Smart when he has a bad game the effort is always there. he had a good game last night.

[mvp 78]

Tatum has been playing great so far. At this point, he seems like a better fit for the C's than Tatum or Ball would have been.

 

Brown has continued to improve upon the flashes we saw last year.

 

This team could be really really good.

 

Uh, yup!

[Spudboy]

They almost blew it last night but the way it ended was great!

[cp176]

What a finish - a simple little half-court trap on the sideline. Should absolutely never work right? Tell that to big ben when he throws the last pass of the game into the absolute middle of the field. It is about the mental!!!

[cp176]

Well Celtic fans, what would you be willing to give up for Anthony Davis? What would Red have done?

[Spudboy]

Well Celtic fans, what would you be willing to give up for Anthony Davis? What would Red have done?

 

Nothing at this point. I like our big guys as they are.

 

Maybe next off-season.

[Spudboy]

Wow.

 

Jo Jo White has died.

 

I used to go to many Celts games when I was a young teen. I would get to the Garden about 2-2.5 hours before game time and watch players shoot around. I remember standing under the basket feeding Jo Jo and Hambone Williams balls.

 

Jo Jo was a very good player. 7 time all star in 10 years. He had the most text book perfect jump shot.

 

 

RIP Jo Jo.

Edited January 17, 2018 by Spudboy

[a700hitter]

Wow.

 

Jo Jo White has died.

 

I used to go to many Celts games when I was a young teen. I would get to the Garden about 2-2.5 hours before game time and watch players shoot around. I remember standing under the basket feeding Jo Jo and Hambone Williams balls.

 

Jo Jo was a very good player. 7 time all star in 10 years. He had the most text book perfect jump shot.

 

 

RIP Jo Jo.

i remember him. He played with Cowan’s, Hindi and Silas. He was an excellent guard, who didn’t get the recognition that he deserved because there were a number of flashy guards during that period. The knicks had Walt “Clyde” Frazier and Earl “the Pearl” Monroe.

[Spudboy]

i remember him. He played with Cowan’s, Hindi and Silas. He was an excellent guard, who didn’t get the recognition that he deserved because there were a number of flashy guards during that period. The knicks had Walt “Clyde” Frazier and Earl “the Pearl” Monroe.

 

Yup. The Knicks were stacked back then. I used to go to games against the Knicks as often as I could afford.

 

It was just about the only time Cowans faced centers his own size! Aside from Willis Reed, that is.

 

The NY guards were death!

 

The Celts would play their asses off and still lose most of the time.

 

That was a real rivalry.

 

I have so many memories from hanging out at the Garden. Yes, it was a dump! But it was so much fun.

 

One time before a game I sat behind the Celts game watching a preliminary game. Red Auerbach was sitting with Don Cheney's wife about 10 rows behind me. He yelled "Hey kid get the hell out of there. You don't belong there". Lol.

[a700hitter]

Yup. The Knicks were stacked back then. I used to go to games against the Knicks as often as I could afford.

 

It was just about the only time Cowans faced centers his own size! Aside from Willis Reed, that is.

 

The NY guards were death!

 

The Celts would play their asses off and still lose most of the time.

 

That was a real rivalry.

 

I have so many memories from hanging out at the Garden. Yes, it was a dump! But it was so much fun.

 

One time before a game I sat behind the Celts game watching a preliminary game. Red Auerbach was sitting with Don Cheney's wife about 10 rows behind me. He yelled "Hey kid get the hell out of there. You don't belong there". Lol.

Red was not known for his friendly demeanor, but he was some coach. A guy that I used to work with saw Red at the NIT at the old Madison Square Garden (a really long time ago— Current Garden dates from 1967). He said “Hey Red, can I ask you a question?” Red responded “f*** off”. LOL! He was crushed, because he idolized Red.

[moonslav59]

I'm a Bucks fan, so Jo Jo had a role in dashing my dreams, but the guy was a true pro.

 

Solid player.

[Spudboy]

I'm a Bucks fan, so Jo Jo had a role in dashing my dreams, but the guy was a true pro.

 

Solid player.

 

I was a Bucks fan too. The Big O, Alcindor, Dandrige, Jones, etc.

 

Big Lew was impossible to stop!!!!! Cowans was game as f*** and would bang with him all night. Just could not stop that hook.

 

Big O was the most impressive athlete I had ever seen to that point. He would back you down to the baseline, turn and fire.

 

Those were the days Moon!

[Spudboy]

Yeah he was always being a prick when not on camera. I saw it plenty of times. Always yelling things at people and blowing that stinky f***ing cigar smoke everywhere.

 

I used to sit up in a seat behind Johnny Most and shoot the s*** with him. He got to know me by name and would share his English Oval cigarettes with me.

 

I used to run to get him coffee during games.

 

That man was sort of unfortunate looking and most people might guess he was gruff but to me he was always a sweetheart. He would turn and see me sit down and say "Hey kid!".

 

I had all types of interesting encounters and conversations with opposing players prior to games. Loyd Neal, Geoff Petrie, and Dave Wohl come to mind. I also spoke with Bob Love and Bob Weiss from the bulls. Love was a cool dude.