Ramirez Asks For Trade (merged)

[Bostons_Finest]

Manny To Philly Talks Heat Up, Manny Ramirez for Bobby Abreu

 

December 1, 2005 -- The Mets wounded the Phillies by acquiring Billy Wagner, Philadelphia's former closer. But the Phillies have set their sights on a player the Mets have coveted: Manny Ramirez.

 

Philadelphia and Boston have engaged in serious talks about swapping Ramirez for Bobby Abreu, The Post has learned.

 

Abreu was shopped by new Philly GM Pat Gillick during the GM meetings in early November. Ramirez's unhappiness in Boston has been evident for months, if not years, and culminated with his apartment in the Residence at the Ritz-Carlton going on the market Tuesday for $6.9 million.

 

If the Phillies land Ramirez, it would be a huge counterblow to the Mets. Constant speculation was that Mets GM Omar Minaya's flurry of winter activity would be capped with a knockout acquisition of the eccentric outfielder.

 

Minaya landed Wagner on Tuesday, and the fireballing lefty blasted the Phils for going backward while the Mets became a stronger playoff contender.

 

The Phillies believe a Ramirez deal could get done if they want. Apparently, the stumbling block is the disparity in salaries.

 

Ramirez will earn $19 million next season and $57 million over the next three. Abreu will earn $13 million in 2006 and $15 million in 2007.

 

Also, Abreu has a no-trade clause. He may want his 2008 club option for $16 million exercised if he waives the clause.

 

Paul Konerko's new five-year, $60 million contract with the White Sox could affect a deal for Ramirez. The Angels, who pursued Konerko, reportedly were Ramirez's No. 1 choice, and any trade requires his permission due to his 10/5 rights (10 years in the majors, at least five with his current team).

 

Now that the Angels lost out on Konerko, they may be more proactive regarding a trade.

 

The Mets weren't informed by Boston that the Red Sox were involved in talks with Philly. At least one Mets source was unfazed by the Boston-Philly talks and said the team would not speed up its timetable for Ramirez. They reportedly planned to speak at next week's winter meetings.

 

Reportedly, the Red Sox had interest in Mets center-field prospect Lastings Milledge as the centerpiece for any deal, but sources said it is "highly unlikely" the Mets will move either Milledge or righty Aaron Heilman. That puts the Mets and Red Sox at a crossroads regarding Ramirez.

 

Yesterday, the Mets didn't rule out a trade for a catcher. Although much of the focus has centered on the team's offers to free agents Ramon Hernandez and Bengie Molina, the club is pursuing other avenues.

 

They've been linked to Florida's Paul Lo Duca and have interest in Tampa Bay's Toby Hall. A source argued that a trade wouldn't necessarily be more costly, because the Mets will lose a draft pick if they sign either Hernandez or Molina.

 

Willie Randolph, who was honored by the March of Dimes as its Sportsman of the Year at the Waldorf-Astoria yesterday, said he can't wait to get to spring training. Randolph said his club is more balanced than it was last year.

 

But he cautioned against anointing the Mets as overwhelming favorites.

 

"It's not rotisserie baseball," he said. "I've been on a lot of great Yankees teams, been on a lot of great ballclubs where we could start printing playoff tickets before the season started.

 

"And I've been disappointed many times in that way."

 

-http://www.nypost.com/sports/58697.htm

[jimmycarter05]

i think we should get more than abreu for manny

[schillingouttheks]

Abreu and Myers for Manny. We need to seriously start asking for the same amount of talent as Manny in return. This is starting to get rediculous. Abreu WILL NOT replace Manny alone. Maybe add Burrell instead of Myers. Or maybe Myers and Burrell? I'm not sure. But we need at least a combo of players. Good ones too.

[example1]

Abreu runs 13 million. That's too steep for a streaky hitter. He has some great numbers (6 of his last 8 seasons over .900 OPS), but not like Manny.

 

I'm beginning to think that, realistically, we are probably going to still have Manny when spring training starts. I'm not convinced that he'll be playing in spring training (or at all, ever) but I just don't think teams want to give up anything close to the type of talent that the sox will (and SHOULD) demand. I mean think about it: we're asking for a superstar or multiple low-risk potential superstars from the minor leagues. Most of the teams that have talent that can even equal Manny would be giving away virtually their entire team to get him (Kazmir, crawford and Huff for Manny anyone?).

 

Manny and the Sox are both screwed if this is the case. I don't hold it against either party for wanting a trade, but I also don't blame the sox if it doesn't get done. They can't just lose a 20 million dollar investment.

[elsrbueno]

Abreu runs 13 million. That's too steep for a streaky hitter. He has some great numbers (6 of his last 8 seasons over .900 OPS), but not like Manny.

 

I'm beginning to think that, realistically, we are probably going to still have Manny when spring training starts. I'm not convinced that he'll be playing in spring training (or at all, ever) but I just don't think teams want to give up anything close to the type of talent that the sox will (and SHOULD) demand. I mean think about it: we're asking for a superstar or multiple low-risk potential superstars from the minor leagues. Most of the teams that have talent that can even equal Manny would be giving away virtually their entire team to get him (Kazmir, crawford and Huff for Manny anyone?).

 

Manny and the Sox are both screwed if this is the case. I don't hold it against either party for wanting a trade, but I also don't blame the sox if it doesn't get done. They can't just lose a 20 million dollar investment.

 

Manny for Abreu alone (IMO) stinks. Bobby Abreu is basically a lefthanded version of Ramirez with less offensive ability. He's another guy who's attitude stinks and he is disliked in Philadelphia because of it.

 

Abreu is more well rounded than Manny, but he isn't the answer. Philadelphia could create a package for Manny, but I see a more appealing package from the Red Sox including Burrell instead of Abreu (a righty bat), Brett Myers (starting pitcher) and a prospect. This is something the Sox would need to consider.

 

Burrell is 29 years old so he's in theory entering the prime of his career. No, he's no Manny Ramirez, but he's a potent righty bat with his best years in front of him. He hit significantly better at home (a hitter's park) than on the road, so there is concern there, but he'd also be spending 81 home games at Fenway if traded to the Red Sox. Brett Myers is 25 years old and had a very decent year last year. He trailed off after the All Star Break last year, and his home/road splits are also drastically different. He had a good K/9 ratio last year (8.59) and allows more groundballs than flyballs (important for pitching at Fenway). He'd slot in as a back end of the rotation pitcher, but would allow the Red Sox to shop Matt Clement more easily.

 

The prospect is obviously negociable. Some names I'll throw out there of guys that are MLB ready: Robinson Tejada (needs to work on his control a bit, but had a decent debut as a starter for Philly last year), Gavin Floyd (once considered a top prospect, struggled at AAA and the Majors last year, but is still just 22), Ryan Madson (already a decent reliever at 25, could contribute immediatly in that role)

[SchillingIsTheNatural]

This could be developing into a Mets vs. Phillies vs. Angels deal. Which is very very very good for us. Now that the power bats are pretty much gone (Konerko) and traded for (Delgado) this makes Manny more valuable and hopefully teams will begin to realize his worth. This is what I hope for anyways so we don't get a bag of donuts in return.

[elsrbueno]

This could be developing into a Mets vs. Phillies vs. Angels deal. Which is very very very good for us. Now that the power bats are pretty much gone (Konerko) and traded for (Delgado) this makes Manny more valuable and hopefully teams will begin to realize his worth. This is what I hope for anyways so we don't get a bag of donuts in return.

 

Competition always helps if you're the seller, and with Manny we are. Just ask Billy Wagner or BJ Ryan.... There's a reason Scott Boras sent his offensive analysis of Johnny Damon to both the Red Sox AND the Yankees....

 

Right now I see the Mets as the team most interested in Manny, but the team with the least to offer. They aren't going to trade a big bat like Delgado or Beltran, and are holding on to Wright and Reyes. At this point what the Mets look like they're willing to give up is prospects along the lines of Lastings Millege and Aaron Heilman (who I'll mention is 27 so hardly a prospect) which just plain isn't enough for Manny Ramirez. They'd probably give up Cliff Floyd who's very solid but in my mind injury prone and his 34 homers last year was a career high. If the Mets hold to the latest remarks of keeping both Millege and Heilman, they basically have nothing other than financial relief to offer the Red Sox, and with the FA market as crappy as it is, financial relief does very little good.

 

The Angels are the next possible team. If they'll talk about Ervin Santana and Casey Kotchman, this deal makes a ton of sense for the Red Sox. The Red Sox would probably have to pick up a contract like Darin Erstad in the process, but could potentially come out with some good young players if Anaheim is willing. So far though, they've seemed unwilling to part with Santana or Kochman.

 

The Phillies are the other team interested, and like I said that trade makes a lot of sense from both perspectives. Manny to the Phillies for Burrell, Myers and a prospect or two sets the Phillies up with a big bat to protect Abreu and drive in Rollins. It gives them the best right handed hitter in the game which could be a huge move for a team desperately in need of some positive PR. The Red Sox, meanwhile, lose Manny's bat but gain a decent MLB ready bat, a guy who can step right into the cleanup spot and play either first base or left field. Also, Myers is a YOUNG fireballing starter with top of the rotation potential-- except he'd be at BEST a #3 starter in 2006 for the Red Sox. Add a prospect (Utley is probably pushing it, but a nice young arm or an outfield prospect would do it) and the Red Sox are setting themselves up for a nice core group of starters including Beckett, Papelbon, and Lester. That would rival the A's of years past and certainly even the mid-late 90s Braves' staff of Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz.

 

The Red Sox may be able to capitalize on a market poor in big time players and some teams in flux who are looking to add big bats. I'd love to see the Dodgers get involved to add to the mix, but it seems like now is the time to unload Manny's contract and get premium talent in return.

[Beckett95]

I think the only way a Manny trade will happen is if there is a third team.

 

D-Backs--($23,881,820)

David Wells ($4,075,000)

Manny Ramirez ($19,806,820)

Cash

Phil--($19,500,000)

Javier Vasquez ($11,000,000)

Shawn Green ($8,500,000)

prospect (Matt Chico, ARZ)

Sox--($20,900,000)

Bobby Abreu ($13,100,000)

Pat Burrell(to play 1st) ($9,000,000)

Aaron Fultz ($550,000)

prospect (Oscar Villarreal, ARZ)

[yagmaster]

Competition always helps if you're the seller, and with Manny we are. Just ask Billy Wagner or BJ Ryan.... There's a reason Scott Boras sent his offensive analysis of Johnny Damon to both the Red Sox AND the Yankees....

 

Right now I see the Mets as the team most interested in Manny, but the team with the least to offer. They aren't going to trade a big bat like Delgado or Beltran, and are holding on to Wright and Reyes. At this point what the Mets look like they're willing to give up is prospects along the lines of Lastings Millege and Aaron Heilman (who I'll mention is 27 so hardly a prospect) which just plain isn't enough for Manny Ramirez. They'd probably give up Cliff Floyd who's very solid but in my mind injury prone and his 34 homers last year was a career high. If the Mets hold to the latest remarks of keeping both Millege and Heilman, they basically have nothing other than financial relief to offer the Red Sox, and with the FA market as crappy as it is, financial relief does very little good.

 

The Angels are the next possible team. If they'll talk about Ervin Santana and Casey Kotchman, this deal makes a ton of sense for the Red Sox. The Red Sox would probably have to pick up a contract like Darin Erstad in the process, but could potentially come out with some good young players if Anaheim is willing. So far though, they've seemed unwilling to part with Santana or Kochman.

 

The Phillies are the other team interested, and like I said that trade makes a lot of sense from both perspectives. Manny to the Phillies for Burrell, Myers and a prospect or two sets the Phillies up with a big bat to protect Abreu and drive in Rollins. It gives them the best right handed hitter in the game which could be a huge move for a team desperately in need of some positive PR. The Red Sox, meanwhile, lose Manny's bat but gain a decent MLB ready bat, a guy who can step right into the cleanup spot and play either first base or left field. Also, Myers is a YOUNG fireballing starter with top of the rotation potential-- except he'd be at BEST a #3 starter in 2006 for the Red Sox. Add a prospect (Utley is probably pushing it, but a nice young arm or an outfield prospect would do it) and the Red Sox are setting themselves up for a nice core group of starters including Beckett, Papelbon, and Lester. That would rival the A's of years past and certainly even the mid-late 90s Braves' staff of Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz.

 

The Red Sox may be able to capitalize on a market poor in big time players and some teams in flux who are looking to add big bats. I'd love to see the Dodgers get involved to add to the mix, but it seems like now is the time to unload Manny's contract and get premium talent in return.

 

 

Great post, Els, you pretty summed up the last week or so in the trade Manny saga. Unfortunately, the it seems as though none of the teams are willing to give up a mixture of MLB talent and young talent that we need for Manny, and the trades you proposed, which would satisfy me, seem almost unrealistic unless the three teams make it a bidding war for Manny. It's frusterating to me that a team like the Mets can say "we want to take your best player from you, but we won't trade Beltran, Delgado, Wright, Reyes, Millege, or Heilman," and that appears to be the case with Minaya. Only time, and the Sox no-name front office, will tell what happens.

[Beckett95]

I think the only way a Manny trade will happen is if there is a third team.

 

D-Backs--($23,881,820)

David Wells ($4,075,000)

Manny Ramirez ($19,806,820)

Cash

Phil--($19,500,000)

Javier Vasquez ($11,000,000)

Shawn Green ($8,500,000)

prospect (Matt Chico, ARZ)

Sox--($20,900,000)

Bobby Abreu ($13,100,000)

Pat Burrell(to play 1st) ($9,000,000)

Aaron Fultz ($550,000)

prospect (Oscar Villarreal, ARZ)

 

 

the phillies are willing to trade burell and abreu but only if they get a top starting pitcher in return (javier vasquez, who wants to play in the east). Manny and Wells both want to go west and the only teams on the westcoast interested in manny or the d-backs and angels. Manny would take Greens spot in the OF, wells in for vasquez in the the rotation. Vasquez would be a 1 or 2 for the phillies and green would take over in RF for abreu (jason michaels would play LF). Abreu would take over mannys OF spot and Burrell would play first. Fultz would be a nice lefty to have the bullpen since mike meyers is pretty much gone. The money is also pretty much the same for each team. (cash going to arizona since they are taking on the biggest salaries).

[elsrbueno]

I think the only way a Manny trade will happen is if there is a third team.

 

D-Backs--($23,881,820)

David Wells ($4,075,000)

Manny Ramirez ($19,806,820)

Cash

Phil--($19,500,000)

Javier Vasquez ($11,000,000)

Shawn Green ($8,500,000)

prospect

Sox--($20,900,000)

Bobby Abreu ($13,100,000)

Pat Burrell(to play 1st) ($9,000,000)

Aaron Fultz ($550,000)

prospect

 

We're going way off on tangents here, but if the Sox give up Manny it'd be damn nice to add a pitcher. Aaron Fultz had a great 2005 ERA wise but he's 32 and has had exactly one good year. Needless to say I'm not sold on him. Arizona comes out WAY on top in this thing adding Manny and Wells for Green and Vasquez. Philly and the Sox get shortchanged IMO. I'd much rather exchange Aaron Fultz from Philly with a guy like Jose Valverde from Arizona and still get a prospect. Meanwhile, Arizona's only picking up $3 million in this deal and get 2 very productive players, so they don't need cash assistance. I modify your deal slightly and it looks better

 

D-Backs--($23,881,820)

David Wells ($4,075,000)

Manny Ramirez ($19,806,820)

 

Phil--($19,500,000)

Javier Vasquez ($11,000,000)

Shawn Green ($8,500,000)

 

Sox--($20,900,000)

Bobby Abreu ($13,100,000)

Pat Burrell(to play 1st) ($9,000,000)

Jose Valverde ($550,000)

prospect (from AZ)

 

Basically Arizona takes care of their need to trade Vazquez, clears up some salary by dealing Green, adds a prospect and a reliever to the mix and gets a very good starter and the best right handed hitter in the game. It's a steep price, but guys like Ramirez come along once in a lifetime.

 

Philly trades Abreu and Burell and gets a lefty bat back in Green and a top of the rotation starter in Vasquez. They're no longer giving up Fultz so it looks better from their end.

 

Finally, Boston makes out damn good in this trade. They add another young power arm to the bullpen, a prospect, and two decent bats to replace Manny's production.

[yagmaster]

We're going way off on tangents here, but if the Sox give up Manny it'd be damn nice to add a pitcher. Aaron Fultz had a great 2005 ERA wise but he's 32 and has had exactly one good year. Needless to say I'm not sold on him. Arizona comes out WAY on top in this thing adding Manny and Wells for Green and Vasquez. Philly and the Sox get shortchanged IMO. I'd much rather exchange Aaron Fultz from Philly with a guy like Jose Valverde from Arizona and still get a prospect. Meanwhile, Arizona's only picking up $3 million in this deal and get 2 very productive players, so they don't need cash assistance. I modify your deal slightly and it looks better

 

D-Backs--($23,881,820)

David Wells ($4,075,000)

Manny Ramirez ($19,806,820)

 

Phil--($19,500,000)

Javier Vasquez ($11,000,000)

Shawn Green ($8,500,000)

 

Sox--($20,900,000)

Bobby Abreu ($13,100,000)

Pat Burrell(to play 1st) ($9,000,000)

Jose Valverde ($550,000)

prospect (from AZ)

 

Basically Arizona takes care of their need to trade Vazquez, clears up some salary by dealing Green, adds a prospect and a reliever to the mix and gets a very good starter and the best right handed hitter in the game. It's a steep price, but guys like Ramirez come along once in a lifetime.

 

Philly trades Abreu and Burell and gets a lefty bat back in Green and a top of the rotation starter in Vasquez. They're no longer giving up Fultz so it looks better from their end.

 

Finally, Boston makes out damn good in this trade. They add another young power arm to the bullpen, a prospect, and two decent bats to replace Manny's production.

 

 

After losing Thome to free agency, I think it is very unrealistic to believe Philadelphia would trade Burrel AND Abreu, especially if they aren't getting Manny in return. While this trade works nicely for Arizona and Boston, the Phillies would be getting terribly shortchanged in this deal, and they don't even save salary.

[Beckett95]

they are willing to trade abreu and burrell for a SP. There have been talks about Abreu for Bedard and Gibbons. They are also very interested in Javier Vasquez. I think they would make this deal if they also got a RF back (shawn green) and a prospect.

[yagmaster]

they are willing to trade abreu and burrell for a SP. There have been talks about Abreu for Bedard and Gibbons. They are also very interested in Javier Vasquez. I think they would make this deal if they also got a RF back (shawn green) and a prospect.

 

Abreu for Bedard and Gibbons is much better for them than Abreu AND Burrel for Vazquez and Green. Shawn Green's best seasons are far behind him, and while Vazquez is better than Bedard, he doesnt come close to making up for the difference between Burrel and Green. Another plus of Abreu for Bedard and Gibbons is that it cuts salary which this trade does not.

[Cityofchampions33]

i like the trade elsrbueno thought of and it seems like the Phillies arent getting a lot inr eturn, but if anything I would add Shoppach and Stern maybe.

[yankeessuck013]

I really like this deal. Nixon is a player that came up threw the system but he is always hurt. Clement and Nixons salary will offset Abreu's salary. This also opens up a slot in the rotation for Papelbon. If this deal is on the table the Sox need to pounce on it.

 

But this seems like media speculation to me.

[riverside sluggers]

Rotoworld: Industry sources told the Boston Globe that the Rangers yesterday called the Red Sox with interest in Manny Ramirez deal built around Alfonso Soriano. The Fort Worth Star-Telegram is apparently set to deny the report, but the Globe says the teams will have discussions at the winter meetings. According to Red Sox assistant GM Jed Hoyer, Ram?rez has attracted "strong" interest from five teams and inquiries from more than a dozen clubs.

 

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Rotoworld: Blue Jays GM J.P. Ricciardi said the Red Sox called him to see if he'd have any interested in Manny Ramirez. He doesn't seem to. "I thought about it quickly," Ricciardi said, "but the thing is, that $20 million keeps showing up every year, you know?" The Red Sox would surely be open to taking Vernon Wells' salary in return, if that's what you're worried about, J.P. But nothing is happening here.

[Beckett95]

the last team i want manny traded to is the angels. whoever we get back from them wont be close to enough to replace manny. they wont trade santana so the most likely deal would be for kotchman, morales and howie kendrick.

[Varitek33]

I say they trade manny just to clear up space for konerko.

 

That wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Beckett95]

i could see manny for soriano and mench.

[ksushi]

the last team i want manny traded to is the angels. whoever we get back from them wont be close to enough to replace manny. they wont trade santana so the most likely deal would be for kotchman, morales and howie kendrick.

 

They say they won't trade Manny. That is their public stance on it. Do you know that Boston has yet to say that they are trying to trade manny? We all know they will, we all know they are trying, but what they are telling the public officially is that Manny is not available. Teams have inquired, but the sox supposedly aren't shopping him.

 

We all know that isn't true. The sox are shopping him. I think the Angels will trade Ervin Santana. If it were the other way around and we just lost Nixon to free agency and some other big deal right fielder eluded our grasp and signed somewhere else and we had no one in right field, would you trade Papelbon for Vlad? I would. With Lester coming up and a rich farm system, I would trade Papelbon for Vlad. Thats about what we're talking about when Ervin Santana's name comes up in Manny talks. They missed out on Konerko, and they're offense needs to catch up to where they're pitching is. I bet they will trade Ervin Santana if they do get manny, and I hope they do. That is worth it. Having a rotation in two years of Beckett Papelbon Lester Santana and Wakefield or Clement or a very scary thing to think about. I would trade Manny for that.

 

P.S.

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestrikesback26

I say they trade manny just to clear up space for konerko.

That wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

Konerko signed with the Chi Sox.

[Beckett95]

i would deal for santana and kotchman IF they are willing to make that deal.

 

Having lost out in their attempt to sign free agent Paul Konerko, who re-signed with the White Sox, the Angels are believed to be the first choice of Red Sox outfielder Manny Ramirez, who has asked for a trade.

 

Ramirez has three years and $57 million remaining on his contract, and would cost the Angels significantly in a package of players as well. The Red Sox have already been told that Santana is not available, but they are believed to be interested in first baseman Casey Kotchman, first/third baseman Kendry Morales and second baseman Howie Kendrick.

 

"We don't get into that," Stoneman said when asked specifically about Ramirez. "We have had discussions with clubs, we will continue to have discussions with clubs. You're always looking at every angle."

from LA Daily News

[example1]

Screw that. I think the sox should get whomever they want for Manny, if the Angels aren't willing to trade the PROSPECT that we want (let alone the proven MLB superstar) then to hell with them. I will just take my Manny and go home then! :harhar:

[guapo34]

They say they won't trade Manny. That is their public stance on it. Do you know that Boston has yet to say that they are trying to trade manny? We all know they will, we all know they are trying, but what they are telling the public officially is that Manny is not available. Teams have inquired, but the sox supposedly aren't shopping him.

 

 

Didn't Lucchino come out and say Manny has requested a trade and we will try and accomodate him?

[example1]

Yes, I believe he did. If he didn't then someone else in the organization did.

 

I would think that the only way to make this work is to make it VERY PUBLIC that you are trying to trade Manny. Make it transparent, so Manny can see that they are trying their best. He deserves the right for the sox to LOOK for a trade, but he is rational enough to know that if the D-Rays are the only team offering, and they're offering Casey Fossum, the trade isn't going to happen.

 

If manny knows the sox are trying to trade him then if they are unable to do so perhaps he will actually show up for spring training. If he refuses to show up at ST then his stock may drop among a number of teams, wondering what would happen if they signed him and he decided he didn't like playing there. Its a risk he would have to calculate.

[guapo34]

Screw that. I think the sox should get whomever they want for Manny, if the Angels aren't willing to trade the PROSPECT that we want (let alone the proven MLB superstar) then to hell with them. I will just take my Manny and go home then! :harhar:

 

 

I think to do a deal with the Angels either Santana or their top hitting prospect brandon wood has to be included. If they say they have two prospects who are untouchable then you walk away. I think they'd rather trade Santana than Wood. I remember and old Gammon column that said between the AFL and the minors Wood had 70 hrs in his first 162 games in professional ball. Either one of these guys packaged with Kotchman would be a very good deal for the sox.

[riverside sluggers]

I read in the mlbtraderumors.com site that with the signing of Carassco, the Angels could deal off Shields or Donnely. Either one of those mentioned would be high on my list to be included in manny trade talks

[Beckett95]

I think to do a deal with the Angels either Santana or their top hitting prospect brandon wood has to be included. If they say they have two prospects who are untouchable then you walk away. I think they'd rather trade Santana than Wood. I remember and old Gammon column that said between the AFL and the minors Wood had 70 hrs in his first 162 games in professional ball. Either one of these guys packaged with Kotchman would be a very good deal for the sox.

 

i agree. i think we should get both santana and moss for manny.

 

 

1. Brandon Wood, SS (DOB: 3/2/85; Drafted 2003 1st round - #23 overall)

 

Wood has taken quite a jump up the prospect charts since being #11 on the Angels’ list last year for AngelsWin.com. I suppose 101 extra-base hits will do that for a guy, especially a SS! Not only did he lead the entire minor leagues in XBH’s, but he also was tops in doubles, homeruns, and total bases. Not bad for a guy who hit .251 with 11 homeruns last year in Low A. Wood did add some muscle (10 lbs or so) in the offseason, but scouts say his power is legit (no BALCO jokes please). He’s tall and lanky, but has tremendous bat speed. Yes he did play in the thin desert air, but according to a scout we talked to, his power is 100% legit and most of his HR’s this year would have been out of any park. He’s a very good defensive SS, but should he grow much beyond his 6’3” 200 lb. frame, his range could be in question as a big league SS. No worries though, his bat will play anywhere. Look for him to start 2006 in AA with a call up to the big leagues not out of the question.

 

first year in minors--AVG.-.321 HR-43 in 130 games

[Beckett95]

Angels top 10 prospects

 

TOP TEN PROSPECTS

1. Casey Kotchman, 1b

2. Dallas McPherson, 3b

3. Erick Aybar, ss

4. Jeff Mathis, c

5. Kendry Morales, 1b/of

6. Brandon Wood, ss

7. Ervin Santana, rhp

8. Howie Kendrick, 2b

9. Alberto Callaspo, 2b/ss

10. Steven Shell, rhp

[yagmaster]

Angels top 10 prospects

 

TOP TEN PROSPECTS

1. Casey Kotchman, 1b

2. Dallas McPherson, 3b

3. Erick Aybar, ss

4. Jeff Mathis, c

5. Kendry Morales, 1b/of

6. Brandon Wood, ss

7. Ervin Santana, rhp

8. Howie Kendrick, 2b

9. Alberto Callaspo, 2b/ss

10. Steven Shell, rhp

 

According to what?