Giambi's Mysterious Power Surge

[bobby jr]

is it just a coincidence he has been in a "slump" since the talk of steroids has been going on around the league....nah I don't think so

 

I thought that myself. There was so much talk of Giambi being on steroids when he was setting the league on fire, if he were on steroids there may have been advice for him to "cool it", not to be so obvious about it. "Hey Jason, don't hit two homers a day, man, the Commis will order you to be tested. " The Yankees are winning anyway against poor Texas.

 

Then he could turn it on again and hit HR's in the stretch (September) to help the Yankes get the Wild Card. And especially in the post season, he can blast away, and the steroid talk would not be nearly as great as it would have been had he set HR records for August like he did for July.

 

Or, maybe it's just a slump, and I'm being a little paranoid. Who knows?

[ARod2212]

You guys are really stretching it. They don't order tests based on how good someone is playing. It's a slump, but he's still doing what we need from him. Getting on base.

[snb988]

Give it a rest. It's pretty sad that now everyone assumes that a player must be on roids just because he is hitting the ball hard. Yes, Giambi is the root of that mentality, but just because he had a good July and is now slumping doesn't mean he was on them and now is off of them. Steroids, by the way, don't effect how well you hit the ball. That's hand eye coordination and being able to see the ball, which Giambi definately does considering he has the league leading OBP.

[bobby jr]

Give it a rest. It's pretty sad that now everyone assumes that a player must be on roids just because he is hitting the ball hard. Yes, Giambi is the root of that mentality, but just because he had a good July and is now slumping doesn't mean he was on them and now is off of them. Steroids, by the way, don't effect how well you hit the ball. That's hand eye coordination and being able to see the ball, which Giambi definately does considering he has the league leading OBP.

 

Well I wasn't suggesting he was on steroids in July and now off them. His power would not have disappeared overnight once he stopped taking HGH or steroids.

 

However what is possible is that he became aware of the tremendous amount of speculation that was going around about his possibly having gone back on steroids. Here he was hitting like Mark Belanger through May, then in July he was hitting like Babe Ruth, tying all time monthly records for HR's that Mantle had set in '61.

 

So in order to stop the steroid speculation and ease suspicions, the best way would seem to be to simply stop hitting HR's for awhile. Can you imagine the suspicions that would be voiced if Giambi set another HR record for August? The Yankees are winning anyway, so Giambi's HR's are not needed at this point in the season.

 

If he is back on steroids he knows he can turn it on and start swinging for the fences when he has to, down the stretch drive and in the playoffs, to help the Yankees win.

[heyabbott]

It's pretty clear that Soso isn't on 'roids again. 1 for 25 lately.

 

Probably Tejada tested positive. He's clearly not the player he was in April and May.

[riverside sluggers]

so steroids helping drive the force behind the bat doesnt mean anything? ok

[heyabbott]

As far as Giambi, MLB has gone on the record and stated that he passed the tests he took this year. MLB has not said that about Tejada.

[soxie thefangirl]

I'm so iffy about Giambi but if he passes then he passed. Who knows about Tejada, but I wouldn't be shocked.

[bobby jr]

As far as Giambi, MLB has gone on the record and stated that he passed the tests he took this year. MLB has not said that about Tejada.

 

No evidence Tejada is on steroids, sorry.

 

MLB does not test for Human Growth Hormone. Also there are likely designer steroids that would not show up in the urine tests that are administered. Plus their are stories about "whizzinaters" and other ways to get around the urine tests.

 

I still believe it is more likely than not that that Giambi is back on the juice. Show me another player in the history of baseball who suddenly hit 14HR's in July after hitting only 5 through June. It hasn't happened before.

 

It would be far more certain if MLB administered random blood tests.

[heyabbott]

No evidence Tejada is on steroids, sorry.

 

MLB does not test for Human Growth Hormone. Also there are likely designer steroids that would not show up in the urine tests that are administered. Plus their are stories about "whizzinaters" and other ways to get around the urine tests.

 

I still believe it is more likely than not that that Giambi is back on the juice. Show me another player in the history of baseball who suddenly hit 14HR's in July after hitting only 5 through June. It hasn't happened before.

 

It would be far more certain if MLB administered random blood tests.

 

 

Check Tejada's April/May power numbers v. July/August.

 

Canseco was right about Palmeiro & Giambi, why would he be wrong about Tejada?

[bobby jr]

Check Tejada's April/May power numbers v. July/August.

 

Canseco was right about Palmeiro & Giambi, why would he be wrong about Tejada?

 

Canseco said he had no knowledge that Tejada was on steroids, he was just speculating about who might be. He said that he injected Palmeiro with steroids. Big difference there.

Huge difference. Grand Canyon like difference.

[Yankydave]

I think most certainly Tejada was on steroids and now is off them because Raffy told him to stop. This is clearly the reason his numbers have dropped off.

[bobby jr]

I think most certainly Tejada was on steroids and now is off them because Raffy told him to stop. This is clearly the reason his numbers have dropped off.

 

Tejada still has a high BA when Giambi went off steroids everything went down his BA, HR's and RBI's. Also it is rather hypocritical that you believe Giambi's extreme peaks and valleys in performance in 2005 have nothing to do with steroids yet you are ready to convict Tejada based upon such flimsy evidence. Remember Giambi is known to have cheated and lied before, there is no such proof about Tejada or any other Oriole (except Raffy)

[ARod2212]

Remember Giambi is known to have cheated and lied before

Just so you know, Giambi didn't cheat. What he did wasn't against the rules, therefore he didn't cheat. Immoral yes, but not cheating.

 

Well I wasn't suggesting he was on steroids in July and now off them. His power would not have disappeared overnight once he stopped taking HGH or steroids.

 

However what is possible is that he became aware of the tremendous amount of speculation that was going around about his possibly having gone back on steroids. Here he was hitting like Mark Belanger through May, then in July he was hitting like Babe Ruth, tying all time monthly records for HR's that Mantle had set in '61.

 

So in order to stop the steroid speculation and ease suspicions, the best way would seem to be to simply stop hitting HR's for awhile. Can you imagine the suspicions that would be voiced if Giambi set another HR record for August? The Yankees are winning anyway, so Giambi's HR's are not needed at this point in the season.

 

If he is back on steroids he knows he can turn it on and start swinging for the fences when he has to, down the stretch drive and in the playoffs, to help the Yankees win.

I bet you read the National Enquirer.

[yankeessuck013]

Just so you know, Giambi didn't cheat. What he did wasn't against the rules, therefore he didn't cheat. Immoral yes, but not cheating.

 

so steroids aren't ilegal, he admited that he took them, you're just in denial

[YankeeDoodle]

I think he meant at the time which Giambi took them, there was no steroid policy in MLB.

[Yankydave]

Tejada still has a high BA when Giambi went off steroids everything went down his BA, HR's and RBI's. Also it is rather hypocritical that you believe Giambi's extreme peaks and valleys in performance in 2005 have nothing to do with steroids yet you are ready to convict Tejada based upon such flimsy evidence. Remember Giambi is known to have cheated and lied before, there is no such proof about Tejada or any other Oriole (except Raffy)

 

I am employing the Bobbyjr level of evidence. Basically that means I will choose to dislike a player based on the team he plays for and accuse him of cheating. Of course, unlike you, I won't post the exact same thing on 3 boards and use each of the other boards as evidence to my assertion.

 

So I guess it's okay to accuse Sosa of cheating since he has been caught cheating before. Quick, someone get his double-standard keyboard, it's time to defend the known cheater.

[26 to 6]

As far as Giambi, MLB has gone on the record and stated that he passed the tests he took this year. MLB has not said that about Tejada.

so because they dont publicly say someone has passed that means that they failed? I never heard the say anything about Jeter, or Manny, or Ichiro, or Varitek passing, so that must mean theyre on juice

[See Red]

So I guess it's okay to accuse Sosa of cheating since he has been caught cheating before. Quick, someone get his double-standard keyboard, it's time to defend the known cheater.

 

When Sosa triples his 4 month HR total in one month.. then yeah, it will be ok to accuse Sosa. But as it looks now, he's been awful and those would be some pretty crappy steroids you'd be accusing him of.

[YankeeDoodle]

Sosa was caught with a corked bat.

[Elevation]

Bobby Jr. doing his best to spread rumors one city at a time.

[heyabbott]

Bobby Jr. doing his best to spread rumors one city at a time.

 

he just keeps posting the message on different boards and somethime the messages literally are a cut and paste job from one board to the next.

[bobby jr]

I see Giambi hit another game winning HR last night. I might be a cynic, but his pattern this year just seems quite suspicious to me.

At the beginning of the year, he was terrible, .200 hitter with no power.

Then he suddenly starts hitting like Babe Ruth reincarnated, with tremendous power and high average, ties all time Yankee record for HR's in July

Talk of his being back on steroids grows everywhere, and he suddenly goes into a slump, the Giambi back on steroids talk ends.

Now with the home stretch coming and the Yankees fighting for a playoff, Giambi starts blasting HR's again.

[heyabbott]

I see Giambi hit another game winning HR last night. I might be a cynic, but his pattern this year just seems quite suspicious to me.

At the beginning of the year, he was terrible, .200 hitter with no power.

Then he suddenly starts hitting like Babe Ruth reincarnated, with tremendous power and high average, ties all time Yankee record for HR's in July

Talk of his being back on steroids grows everywhere, and he suddenly goes into a slump, the Giambi back on steroids talk ends.

Now with the home stretch coming and the Yankees fighting for a playoff, Giambi starts blasting HR's again.

 

sounds alot envious, with samantha soso raphael palmeiroid on the DL again with mysterious injuries, faulty ear plugs and unable to find their places of employment.

 

what happened to brian roberts, those 1st half stats seem a little juiced, maybe with soso unable to make his regular deliveries, brian has been unable to lift the bat.

[bobby jr]

sounds alot envious, with samantha soso raphael palmeiroid on the DL again with mysterious injuries, faulty ear plugs and unable to find their places of employment.

 

what happened to brian roberts, those 1st half stats seem a little juiced, maybe with soso unable to make his regular deliveries, brian has been unable to lift the bat.

 

Sosa has never admitted to taking steroids in the past. Giambi has. If Sosa were on steroids and providing them to Roberts then Sosa wouldn't would not have hit .220 with 15 HR in 2005. No, neither one of them is taking steroids.

 

The fact is that no player in the history of baseball has been so bad at the beginning of the year as Giambi then had such a strong July. Then a "slump" just when the steroid talk was growing rampant about him, and now that the "Giambi back on steroids" talk dies down, he starts hitting again.

 

Just seems a little suspicious. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

[heyabbott]

Sosa has never admitted to taking steroids in the past. Giambi has. If Sosa were on steroids and providing them to Roberts then Sosa wouldn't would not have hit .220 with 15 HR in 2005. No, neither one of them is taking steroids.

 

The fact is that no player in the history of baseball has been so bad at the beginning of the year as Giambi then had such a strong July. Then a "slump" just when the steroid talk was growing rampant about him, and now that the "Giambi back on steroids" talk dies down, he starts hitting again.

 

Just seems a little suspicious. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

still looking for evidence of giambi's steroid use, do you have it?

[MrJimH]

I watch most Yankee games and I don't think he's on steroid because no one can possibly be that dumb, but I do believe he's on something.

 

Every time they pan to him in the dug out after he does something big, his eyes are bulging out of his head a lot further than usual and he's shaking uncontrollably.

 

I don't know what he's on but he, in my opinion, is on something.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that has seen a change in his look.......when season started, he looked calm and collective, but have to admit that over the past couple of months, he has taken on that "wild eyed" look of seasons past. Something has changed and I'm not sure working extra hard in the batting cage is the reason. Time will tell I guess, but it sure makes one wonder!

[MC Hammer]

still looking for evidence of giambi's steroid use, do you have it?

I think the fact that he had the biggest turn around in the history of baseball is all the evidence I need. Then as soon as people started talking about him using steroids again he had a slump ... then the second they stopped bringing his name up he caught fire again. Look after you do something once people will always be suspicious of you. I'm not just talking about baseball ... it's the same in all aspects of life.

 

Exactly like bobby jr. said fool me once shame on you ...

[riverside sluggers]

even the great reliever that he is, Dennis Eckersley was on NESN pre-game report on Friday and said "I dont mean to say this, but even I have questions to this sudden streak hes had since beginning of July. I mean he's really bulked up since spring training"

[See Red]

Yep. I saw that as well. He made note of how Giambi has gotten bigger over the course of the season and how it's impossible to do that legally. I would be shocked if he's doing this without the aid of steroids.