Yankee fans

[YankeeDoodle]

I think RJ's lost-less when Flaherty catches him, so I'll take that. He and Posada do not get along, on the field...or off it for that matter.

[Boogie]

wow dude lmao, flaherty has better clutch hits than jorge ?? haha, jorge is right now batting .257 with 13 Homeruns and 45 RBIs. Lets see and John Flaherty this season would be at a .162 average and 5 RBIs, damn yea Flaherty is Mr. Clutch this year

OK fine, a closed minded Sox fan knows more about my Yankees than me. If you don't watch the games you don't know. Posada doesn't do anything. His homeruns come in blowouts and his RBIs are padded by games where the hitters in front of him dominate mediocre pitchers like Travis Harper. But on the other hand, Flaherty the last few years has actually made a surprising difference in games he wiggles into. But I wouldn't know because you OBVIOUSLY have more knowledge on the Yankees than I do. Two games against the Sox come to mind. The John Flaherty double off Clement turned out to practically be the difference in the game.... and his walk-off single against Leskanic on July 1st of last year, those are two legitimate hits that I can't think of comparisons for Jorge, he just isn't a clutch hitter whatsoever. Flaherty is a superior defensive player, but he played once a week if he was lucky earlier on in the season, but now that he is getting consistent playing time he actually can work on his stroke. But he is still just a back-up, but if you don't just live in stats you would've have witnessed that he has been the difference in games, through plays at the plate, clutch hits, sac bunts, or just the way he calls the game.

 

Plus I know I am not the only Yankee fan who thinks this. I would feel more comfortable when John Flaherty starts, I feel like we have much more of a chance to win.

[Manny Goes Boom]

I was watching a game when Randy Johnson was pitching and ESPN put up an eye-opening stat (not exact numbers, if anyone has them can they put them here) When Posada catches Randy Johnson his ERA is around 4.50, but when Flaherty catches him his ERA is like 3.50

 

Flaherty OBVIOUSLY does not have Posada's bat but, at least with Johnson, calls a better game

[Boogie]

I was watching a game when Randy Johnson was pitching and ESPN put up an eye-opening stat (not exact numbers, if anyone has them can they put them here) When Posada catches Randy Johnson his ERA is around 4.50, but when Flaherty catches him his ERA is like 3.50

 

Flaherty OBVIOUSLY does not have Posada's bat but, at least with Johnson, calls a better game

Wang also pitched better games with Flats behind the plate. It has been rumored that the Yankees minor league staff was upset with the way Posada called Sean Henn's games also.

[YankeesFan2]

Don't you think you spend too much time talking about us? Live and let live, from what I have read in a couple of post it seems you guys enjoy our team, more than yours. Forget about the Yankees and their fan base. Enjoy your world series, haven't you waited long enough. Some Yankee fans have nothing in their heads, so do some Sox fans. Not every single fan blames or critizes Torre, Jeter, Bernie, and the rest of the old guard.

 

Peace be with you!

 

 

then go to the YES network or NYYFans.com and post there and enjoy ur team and not theirs.

[Manny Goes Boom]

Wang also pitched better games with Flats behind the plate. It has been rumored that the Yankees minor league staff was upset with the way Posada called Sean Henn's games also.

 

Is it because they are new pitchers? :dunno:

[YankeeDoodle]

Is it because they are new pitchers? :dunno:

Flaherty worked with young pitchers in TB.

 

To Posada's credit, he should fit in with Leiter is reminscient of...Andy Pettitte. *waves of nostalgia wash over*

[JeterWifey213]

very true, ive only seen recently jeterwifey and 26 to 6 several times. YANKEESRULE and Yanks2010 have vanished since the yanks lost the 1/2 game lead they had over the sox in just 24 hours

 

I will always be here, haunting people lol, win or loose. I already got a referral, which I will find out what the hell I did. :dunno: If the two members you mentioned only come when the Yanks are winning, well that shows you the measure of character ( if you can‘t take what you dish well don‘t say nothing at all is what I say.).

[TalkYank]

1. I like Joe Torre as a manager. Yes, he has championships and a long streak of playoff appearances but Yankee fans also have to remember how the Yankees poorly did with previous managers such as Buck Showalter, Stump Merril, Bucky Dent, Dallas Green and so on.

 

2. Alex Rodriguez is a God send to the Yankees and will continue to produce great results. I hope they keep him for a very long time.

 

3. Derek Jeter is a great player but I think Yankee fans are mainly complaining about his RISP batting average. I like Bernie Williams too but he is slumping something awful lately. I have no idea what happened to him. He's like a completely different player. Very weird. As for Jorge Posada, I never expected him to hit 300 so I never really complained. Some fans talk about his pitching calls when in fact the pitcher really has the final say...

 

So why do some Yankee fans complain? Well in a nutshell, they want results and they want them now. Of course, that doesn't quite work...

 

I got some questions for some Yankee fans on this site, now this only is for the people who post on the YES network, or have critized the Yankees badly this year. (Red Sox fans may comment on this as well)

 

1. How could you ever question, or insult Joe Torre? I've seen at least 10,000 different threads on how bad Joe Torre is as a manager, ranging from, "Why no Tanyon" (when he had thrown 45 pitches the previous night, to "How could Torre use Groom against two righties" (When they were switch hitters, who can't hit lefties) The fact of matter is, Joe Torre won you guys 3 championships in a row, he is probably one of the greatest managers of all time. How could you ever critize that kind of greatness?

 

2. After Alex Rodriguez hit an RBI single tonight, and he was picked off, Yankee fans proceeded to call A-Rod a fag, a bitch, and OMG A-Fraud u blo!. My question is why? The mother f***er got you a run, and not to mention the fact he's hitting .319 with 27 bombs. If you critize Bubba Crosby, or Kevin Brown that's understandable, but why someone who's producing?

 

3. Lastly, how could any Yankee fan critize, Derek Jeter (some have), Bernie Williams (a lot have), or Jorge Posada (every single one of you have)?

 

These guys aren't your problems, your team just isn't that good. They have ZERO starting pitching, and outside of Rivera and Gordon, they have no bullpen. Maybe you should start asking questions to the man who was really behind all of this, but the man you seem to want to have multiple orgies with. Start blaming Steinbrenner.

 

I think it's kinda pathetic, when a guys like Torre are blamed for things when it isn't his fault, it just proves how pathetic most Yankee fans are.

[ARod2212]

The Yankees "dynasty" is over, just live with the struggles of Williams, Posada, and the other players.

The Red Sox dynasty is over, just live with the struggles of Schilling, Bellhorn, Arroyo and Foulke.

 

 

That makes no sense at all. The Yankees as a team is far better served with Crosby in centerfield than Bernie. I have nothing against Bernie, I love the guy, but there is no reason to 'live with it' when we don't have to. I still like what Bernie brings to the lineup, and I like him as a DH or if he can learn to play left.

 

The point is, you can't take on the attitude that we'll just live with it if the people aren't helping the team. This is a team that is supposed to compete every year, and if there's a problem it needs to be fixed. No one is immune if they're struggling, and that is how you build a winning franchise.

[Sox fan in Tex]

That makes no sense at all. The Yankees as a team is far better served with Crosby in centerfield than Bernie. I have nothing against Bernie, I love the guy, but there is no reason to 'live with it' when we don't have to. I still like what Bernie brings to the lineup, and I like him as a DH or if he can learn to play left.

 

Please explain to me how RIGHT NOW, that can be true. Example A. Crosby goes out and misplays a ball allowing an inside the park HR. Example B. The next night, Bernie starts and makes an outstanding play along the warning track saving a couple runs.

[CrespoBlows]

The Red Sox dynasty is over, just live with the struggles of Schilling, Bellhorn, Arroyo and Foulke.

 

 

That makes no sense at all. The Yankees as a team is far better served with Crosby in centerfield than Bernie. I have nothing against Bernie, I love the guy, but there is no reason to 'live with it' when we don't have to. I still like what Bernie brings to the lineup, and I like him as a DH or if he can learn to play left.

 

The point is, you can't take on the attitude that we'll just live with it if the people aren't helping the team. This is a team that is supposed to compete every year, and if there's a problem it needs to be fixed. No one is immune if they're struggling, and that is how you build a winning franchise.

 

I wouldn't call Arroyo's demise as catastrophic as Williams' or even Bellhorn's. Williams was a great player, one of the main keys to the dynasty back through '96 to '00. Bellhorn really wasn't that important, and Arroyo was the number 5 guy.

 

The Yankees are an average team, with a good offense, and horrible starting pitching. They have nothing else that can replace these players. Bitch about Proctor? Who can replace him? Bitch about Posada? Who replaces him? I understand that you can sit Bernie down, but why throw him under the bus? Doesn't he deserve the same amount of loyalty and respect he's shown to the Yankees?

 

Since I don't personally build the Red Sox, I doesn't really mean that much if we don't win a World Championship. If we do, great I'll love every minute of it. If we don't, it won't bother me as much as it used to. I'm giving the Red Sox their deserved grace period, when it expires, then I'll start second guessing people, but they haven't given me a reason to.

[ARod2212]

Please explain to me how RIGHT NOW, that can be true. Example A. Crosby goes out and misplays a ball allowing an inside the park HR. Example B. The next night, Bernie starts and makes an outstanding play along the warning track saving a couple runs.

Example A was Melky Cabrera, not Bubba Crosby.

 

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[26 to 6]

OK fine, a closed minded Sox fan knows more about my Yankees than me. If you don't watch the games you don't know. Posada doesn't do anything. His homeruns come in blowouts and his RBIs are padded by games where the hitters in front of him dominate mediocre pitchers like Travis Harper. But on the other hand, Flaherty the last few years has actually made a surprising difference in games he wiggles into. But I wouldn't know because you OBVIOUSLY have more knowledge on the Yankees than I do. Two games against the Sox come to mind. The John Flaherty double off Clement turned out to practically be the difference in the game.... and his walk-off single against Leskanic on July 1st of last year, those are two legitimate hits that I can't think of comparisons for Jorge, he just isn't a clutch hitter whatsoever. Flaherty is a superior defensive player, but he played once a week if he was lucky earlier on in the season, but now that he is getting consistent playing time he actually can work on his stroke. But he is still just a back-up, but if you don't just live in stats you would've have witnessed that he has been the difference in games, through plays at the plate, clutch hits, sac bunts, or just the way he calls the game.

 

Plus I know I am not the only Yankee fan who thinks this. I would feel more comfortable when John Flaherty starts, I feel like we have much more of a chance to win.

Flaherty has been pretty clutch throughout his tenure with the Yanks, but lets be real, if you compare his stats if he were playing everyday to those of Psoadas, Posada would blow him out of the water. Jorge is much more reliable and a better hitter..regardless of frequent slumps. If Flaherty is such a guarantee in a clutch spot, he wouldnt get pinch hit for in the late innings for Posada when the team is down.

[26 to 6]

Please explain to me how RIGHT NOW, that can be true. Example A. Crosby goes out and misplays a ball allowing an inside the park HR. Example B. The next night, Bernie starts and makes an outstanding play along the warning track saving a couple runs.

Bernie is a liability in CF, though he is still capable of making good plays, his arm is absolutely horendous, always has been..but its gotten worse over the last 2 seasons and is capable of really hurting us now. Crosby is one of the top 5 fastest guys in baseball, and therefore he can cover a lot more ground in the outfield, and is pretty good on defense in terms of actually catching the ball.

I still dont think he is good enough to be the everyday guy, but he will do alternating with Bernie until we get a better solution.

[CrespoBlows]

Bernie is a liability in CF, though he is still capable of making good plays, his arm is absolutely horendous, always has been..but its gotten worse over the last 2 seasons and is capable of really hurting us now. Crosby is one of the top 5 fastest guys in baseball, and therefore he can cover a lot more ground in the outfield, and is pretty good on defense in terms of actually catching the ball.

I still dont think he is good enough to be the everyday guy, but he will do alternating with Bernie until we get a better solution.

 

Uhh... Crosby's fast, but he's not one of the top 5 fastest players in baseball.

 

Oh, and just because your fast, that doesn't make you a good defensive player, (Crosby is a better outfielder then Williams though)

[26 to 6]

I do post at the new boards and I'm glad that someone can realize not to judge Yankees fans by the ones from YES. Most of them are terrible baseball fans in general and are frontrunners.

where are the new boards, ive tried all the Yankee boards but all are filled with unknowledgable, frontrunning "fans"...word of these new boards is a godsend.

[26 to 6]

Uhh... Crosby's fast, but he's not one of the top 5 fastest players in baseball.

 

Oh, and just because your fast, that doesn't make you a good defensive player, (Crosby is a better outfielder then Williams though)

Bro, trust me, Crosby is definately one of the top 5 fastest guys in baseball...you probably dont watch him enough to know but i would put him up there with the Carl Crawfords, Nook Logans, and Tony Womacks of the world anyday

 

...and i didnt say speed equaled good defense, i said it made him able to cover a lot more ground in the field.

[CrespoBlows]

Bro, trust me, Crosby is definately one of the top 5 fastest guys in baseball...you probably dont watch him enough to know but i would put him up there with the Carl Crawfords, Nook Logans, and Tony Womacks of the world anyday

 

...and i didnt say speed equaled good defense, i said it made him able to cover a lot more ground in the field.

 

Yes I watch a lot of baseball, and Bobby Crosby is not faster then

 

Carl Crawford

Tony Womack

Dave Roberts

Juan Pierre

Johnny Damon

Nook Logan

Chone Figgins

ETC..

 

Crosby is fast, but he isn't one of the top 5 in baseball.

[ARod2212]

Top 5% maybe, not top 5. However, he's quick and has good instincts in center. He makes the team better when he's in the outfield, any offense is a bonus.

[26 to 6]

Yes I watch a lot of baseball, and Bobby Crosby is not faster then

 

Carl Crawford

Tony Womack

Dave Roberts

Juan Pierre

Johnny Damon

Nook Logan

Chone Figgins

ETC..

 

Crosby is fast, but he isn't one of the top 5 in baseball.

maybe my statement is biased because im a Yankee fan, but i highly doubt you watch Crosby on a consistent basis and see how fast he is...i would put him up against any of those guys any day, and IMO I think hes faster than Dave Roberts...a VERY KEY stolen base doesnt make you Michael Johnson, hes gettin pretty old, and though still one of the fastest in the game, i think Bubba's faster.

[Sox fan in Tex]

Thank you for the correction, ARod2212. Too bad I haven't seen that picture before, I could have used it in response after 220 of your 221 posts on here.

[ARod2212]

Thank you for the correction, ARod2212. Too bad I haven't seen that picture before, I could have used it in response after 220 of your 221 posts on here.

Hey no problem man, at this point I'm used to it because I'm always correcting you. Ya need an antagonist here, and that's me. I enjoy it, you should too.

[Sox fan in Tex]

Yeah, everythings fine. You're going to Ireland tomorrow, so I guess in a way we have to leave on a good foot (or whatever you choose to call it). I definitely will miss some of these posts directed towards me these next couple weeks.