southpaw777

Agree. I was just sticking to the main culprits

Yeah, I get the pros and cons for sure. Just my personal philosophy is to wait at least a full played year of 600 ABs. Unless it’s Trout or Judge type I stick to it usually. If I’m the Sox I don’t count Pennie’s.

Yes! Cora doesn’t NOT get a pass. He was NOT a fan of Breslow and the new direction of the ownership.

Stock up on pitching always. And yeah, seemed like he got some good athletic contact guys in the draft for position players

Right now we have four of our 5 original starters out with no timetable for any of them yet. Crochet and Early haven’t even picked up a baseball yet. A groin injury can linger and Tolle and Bennett will surely be well over their innings limit during or by the end of September. Our offense sucked for three months and we just had a nice winning streak vs a decimated NYY team, the Rockies LAA and the NYM. now I’m not saying I didn’t enjoy it but let’s not fool ourselves, we would have to trade the farm to get the big bat, starter, or any other player we may need to replace by Aug 3. we can get a LOT for Gray and Chapman. I’d listen on other players as well as some teams may get a little desperate and overspend. It’s a sellers market.

Exactly. People talking about Crochet, who hasn’t thrown a baseball yet. And Anthony who won’t listen to doctors that tell him to get to FtMeyers and rehab because his widdle finger hurts. its a bad idea to sign guys who arnent mike trout to long term deals before they have proved anything in MLB. You wait until the league makes their adjustments and see how he adjusts back. See Kristian Campbell. 16.25 for a kid that’s done nothing and has proved nothing in MLB. All it was was a big hype machine. now, I’m not saying he’s not talented and one day wont earn that money when he’s actually making money on the backend of that deal. But he could also turn out to be soft like Casas And Mayer.

I have way more confidence in him than the other two mentioned with him. Gonzales and Phillips

I think Primera is the real deal. A ways away, but I like what I see at an early age.couple more names in Greenville I’m just keeping an eye on too. we got all SS OF and Starting pitching in the draft. I. Good with that.

I’m in the camp of right from the word go Breslow handling it poorly and with zero respect for the player and the prior deal that was made…and Devers should have done what was asked of him regardless... Breslow had zero care for the guy that just was given a Huge deal. Maybe inform him of your plans beforehand, since they involve him and he was told otherwise a year prior. Breslow said dumb s*** like “I didn’t sign him”, which is more proof his poor communication skills .. Devers got an attitude, which I understand, but he still should have gone along with the program and not acted like a spoiled brat and become a cancer. after all, he’s an employee when all is said and done. Not like my job, but still… overall Breslow gets an F for how he handled it and Devers gets a fail for how he did. I’m not mad he’s gone. He wasn’t a favorite of mine, but there’s more than one guy in the wrong here.

If I’m trading whitherspoon and his 5m signing bonus, it’ll be for something worthwhile. He has a little more stock to me than the other two. phillips looks more and more like a back end bullpen guy. Gonzales looks good, but still a ways away. Agree, I’d move all of them.

Even when Theo was here it seemed they were forcing their way onto him.

It started prior to that in the offseason. He’s a catcher now, so they’re predicting a switch.

They have stability in the ownership and front office. They don’t change philosophies and front office personnel every 3-4 years. NYY have what the Sox ownership has stripped this organization of. Stability and loyalty to the process and their word means spit. he won’t, but Henry should sell and allow someone who really cares about something other than himself own the team. f him.

Heyman is probably going to be at 1b at some point too.

Same. I’ll take all the money too so I don’t have to send a top prospect back. Maybe a couple guys from 11-20. He’sd be a perfect fit too. Henry is only spending 200m in real money. Dude can afford a 10m tax to win a ring if the AAV goes there. I mean, either they stop being cowards and really go for it or sell. Don’t half azz it, like I think they will. Ive heard a couple names bantered about here to trade for, but IMHO none of them are game changers. Alonso would be.

In the 21-30 prorspects and Mason white as well. All of them have some pop in there bat. like Heyman and Mason White are guys to keep an eye on as well..

There’s not much from 11-20. All the talent that has proven themselves so far are top ten. Besides Cespedes and Soto just a bunch of middling prospects. Wehunt Uberstine Romero and the like…they won’t get you much back. if they do go for it they should see if the Os, if they’re out of it, will want to rid themselves of the Alonso deal. He’s got 21hr after heating up mid may. I’ll take him for 4 more. I’d also go get another starter because we won’t have Tolle or Bennett if they care about their arms. but my big question is when/if our starters will all be back this year, and in what condition. If they’re truly going for it this year they had better win it all because they have a legit shot to stockpile prospects/players to keep for this offseason or for trades. this team sucked for 3 months, goes on a hot streak vs a decimated NYY team and all the worst teams in MLB and now all of a sudden some think they’re legit contenders? Nope. I’m not there yet.

Valera is recovering from TJS he had this year. Don’t look to him until 29 or beyond.i won’t count on Houck Crawford Oviedo. Bres did this year and traded a lot of depth. The first 5 you listed, when healthy, are probably the starting 5 next year. I'm all about tons of depth for the rotation. im not moving Eyanson or Arias this deadline. In fact I'm still a seller at this point if Im the Sox.

After being given $300 million over 10 years and the label of face of the franchise I think he deserved at least enough respect to talk to him before all this happened. Breslow‘s answer was “I didn’t sign him” while I don’t agree with Devers behavior and he should’ve handled it better, I truly understand him feeling the way he did after being lied to and disrespected.

Why so excited about Roman Anthony when he hasn’t done much in MLB yet? I mean, I get it to a point, but To expect him come back and be some sort of offensive threat is a little premature if you ansk me. He was batting 200 when he got hurt. crochet hasn’t even thrown a baseball yet. Neither has Connolly early. How is Suarez‘s groin? Do you expect them to come back soon and be at the top of their game? Bennett will NOT be a factor due to IP limits. Tolle is almost at his IP from last year. 10 more ip and he’s there, so. I’m guessing he’ll be gassed bye mid September. if they do what they did last night and only throw him 3-4ip and mix him with Bello? Maybe. we might need another starter down the stretch like we did with Peavey for Iggy trade. Also we need a bat that will make a difference. Not some middling player just to say we got someone. If we think we’re getting these pieces by giving up our crap then think again. If We truly wanna have a team that can legitimately compete for a World Series say goodbye to the top few prospects. Not sure we’re there this year. we played a decimated Yankees team, Colorado, LAA, NYM…it wasn’t like we played the cubbies dodgers or brewers. It was nice to see but let’s not fool ourselves. We still have some important pieces needed and a bunch still hurt

Are they ready to give up their top guys to get the players, rental or not, that can put them in a position of legit WS contender? I wouldn’t. Not this year. Marginal players won’t push this team. They need legit Power to go with Contreras and maybe even a starter due to Tolle close to his IP last year already@120ip… He’s got 15ip in AAA as well as his 84-85ip in Boston so far. . Bennett will be at his inning limit before the season is over as well. If we do go for it we should get a starter Like the Jake Peavy deal back in the day. Someone to help get us through September. I’m not sure who’s available for HR power, but I’m sure it’ll cost a lot. Crochet and an early have not thrown a baseball yet. How bad is Suarez’ groin? Will All three come back firing on all cylinders? We will NEED all three along with Gray to be taken seriously. The other two could hit their walls anytime over the next month or two. im waiting to change my mind on being buyers. To me, we should still be sellers. I’m not convinced this is our year to sell the farm to go for it. definitely Chapman and Gray. Maybe a Guerrero IKF too.

Nice, Yoshida just upped his trade value

Looking for something else probably

Yeah, I was hoping for a 3b type with a bat too, or another up the middle slap hitter. more contact than power

We pick a SS who wasn’t projected until the 3rd round at 20? so the metrics guys are going with contact and not power? pretty sure this dude would have been there in round 2 or 3.