Hugh2
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Yes, I don't want to sprain an index finger again and go on the IL
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I violently disagree with this post
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Have we started a trend here!!!!! I love it
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Dorian Soto Will Be Red Sox's Fastest Riser in 2026
Hugh2 replied to Nick John's topic in Red Sox Minor League Talk
Maybe, but Enddy Azocar might be that guy -
deffered money is factored into the equation. It most be discounted back at some interest rate and only the NPV counts towards the LT. I'm still not entirely sure who's right Google says the number is between 14.7 and 17.25 I think for all intents and purposes of what the Sox will do next those numbers are effectively the same.
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See, I hate this window talk. We are the Boston Effing Red Sox, there should be no window. Maybe there are windows where we are better but our down cycles should be 88-92 wins not last place finishes. When is the last time the NY Yankees had a losing record? The window is always open.
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I think the $14.7 million number is right, so techinically I'm right too. But I do also believe the Sox Payroll site over cots.
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Yes but this is the post 2018 world. Something happened to John Henry and I'm not sure he's ever coming back. Please come back.
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According to Cots, Martes tax hit WAS $19.4 million, which is his contract divided by years. We know that resets when traded so that would be $103.5/6 (factoring in the player option). which is $17.25 a year. Cots is either right or wrong. THey're a good source, but I think Sox Payroll has a better grasp on Bostons payroll.
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But we KNOW they Sox won't spend above a certain level. Trading for Marte and then also signing Bregman or Bo is most likely a pipe dream. If I thought the Sox would and they did I'd feel much better about it. But when is the last time the Sox have spent A.) as much as they'd say the would AND B.) went above the second line (which they have not said they would).
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Then how come the deferred money didn't reduce his LT hit in his original contract??? Unless COTS is wrong.
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Why is Cots the go to? for the last several years I've found Soxpayroll to be more accurate when it comes to all things Red Sox payroll than anyone else. Also, if you use Cots they're saying his LT hit is $17.25 not 14.6
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Also, why is Martes LT tax hit next year under $15 million? I believe it's actually $17.25 which is really a mute point because I don't think it will make a difference staying under the second LT line if they wanted to trade for him AND sign Bregman/Bichette
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All the power bats on the market are going to get $30 million plus, maybe Bregman or Bichette get around 27-28 if they're signing even longer term deals (which we know the Sox are NOT doing). THere's no power hitter on the market who will not put us over that second luxury tax line if we also add Marte through trade.
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That is an INSANELY fair question to ask. Now who is being hyperbolic???? We currently have $17.81 space below the first cap. Adding Marte puts us around $23 below the second. https://soxprospects.com/payroll.htm
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I don't care who the names are as long as we are trading from a position of strength to fill a position of need. That's just good business.
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It was said, I also don't believe anybody is going back and re-reading every post on this thread. It was said I responded. It's really a mute point. If you're going to say that no one is saying then ok I'll concede that point.
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That's not the point I was trying to make. You can switch out the names to fit with what they want, you can bring in a 3rd team, you can even switch up your target to another player not named Marte. My point is you keep Mayer to play 3B/2B and if you can trade for a guy like Marte you plug him in the other hole.
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What power Bat are you going to add on top of $241 million that will keep the Sox below the second luxury tax threshold??????
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And Casas is your 1B? who....may not even be ready be opening day. We need infielders way way way way more than starting pitching. Grey IS YOUR #2. Why can't we just trade for an infielder without trading away Mayer?
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Third Baseman Ketel Marte Is On the Boston Red Sox's Radar
Hugh2 replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
To be fully transparent at some point this offseason I mixed up my Martes as well -
Here's another way solidify my position. Trading Marcelo Mayer + Kyson WItherspoon for Ketel Marte = No Bueno Trading Tolle/Abreu and Dorian Soto for Ketel Marte = Mucho Bueno.
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I violently disagree with this comment.
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I'm not against trading prospects, I'm against opening up holes to get a guy. Once people identify someone they like and become willing to just trade whatever to get them I consider that putting "all" the chips in. I'm speaking in the aggregate here against many different comments and things said I'm not specifcally trying to take a single posters argument down so I don't think that is a strawman either as I have not created a situation that doesn't exist but rather commented on someone elses proposed trade, nor have I exxaggerated any situation. Trading a young cost controlled guy who fills in a hole you need is not the type of move that is "all in" and I will continue to say it's rather irresponsible when you have plenty of trade chips. If the Sox are willing, they can get Marte OR someone else without trade Mayer. You need Marte (or someone like him) PLUS Mayer next year.
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Third Baseman Ketel Marte Is On the Boston Red Sox's Radar
Hugh2 replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
I suppose that may be a little too over zealous on my part. I’m not sure what’s considered elite but maybe above 90%%% Marte is in the 85% so let’s critique my statement and say he has well above average batting average speed
