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  1. This team has a history (recently) of going last to first rather quickly. Here’s to hoping it repeats itself. Will be easier next year with less games against the stacked AL east
  2. It’s funny how a 31 year old Mike Trout scares people, but paying Mookie Betts until he’s 39 doesn’t. There’s a very good and real chance he falls off a cliff somewhere between 30-35 with a little regression coming before then. Not that I didn’t want him resigned, the time to resign guys is before they hit arbitration. Give them the long years then so you’re paying into their mid 30s instead of when they’re into their late 30’s. You will still get burned, but we’re talking 1st degree burns, not 3rd degree.
  3. Dude, listen, I wish John Henry would grow some balls and compete with the Dodgers. Resign Bogaerts/Devers and go get my some Judge/Contreras/Nimmo and trade for a TOTRS this offseason. I'd be willing to bank on Bogaerts power coming back in that lineup and having the best offense in baseball.
  4. Sure, facts are facts, just like mine you can't dispute the reality of what I'm saying. Betts only had one year of team control left FACT, that was 1/3 a season FACT, he was resigned for 365 million dollars FACT. You can't compare that trade and completely IGNORE 365 MILLION dollars. It's absurd to not factor that into the equation if you want to evaluate the trade-out past the 2021 season. anything short of that is not rational.
  5. No, I think the Dodgers fans are having fun because their ownership isn't afraid to pay 280 million dollars a year. If we were spending that type of money Mookie Betts would still be on this team.
  6. Oh absoltely, he's the extreme example. But overall, the days of the 200 inning pitcher are over.
  7. Verdugo doesn't replace Betts, because every year after 2021 Betts wasn't under team control. How you spend 30.5 million dollars is what replaces Betts. That's the larger picture.
  8. Let's also not forget that 12 years is a VERY!!!! long time. We have no idea what Betts is going to look like in 10 years. It could get very ugly. Think of a player like McCutchen who has a very similar profile to Betts. Imagine being so insanely angry we didn't sign him to 365 million dollars.....how happy would we have been several years later?
  9. You can call it the company like or whatever you want, we can argue semantics until 2055 but you're only comparing 1/3 a year of Betts. If we want an honest comparison, value for the value of what you got and what you gave out in the trade then you're only comparing 1/3 a season of Betts. That's a fact. If you want to make the arugment that "well they could have resigned him if they didn't trade him" that's fine. I don't think that's an honest argument but for the sake of it I'll concede that point. Now you have to value Verdugo every year PLUS what $30.5 gets you. And that's insanely objective. Every year I can take the most productive FA signings made after 2021 and add it up to 30.5 million. It's very likely I'm going to get value comparable to Betts. It's a losing argument for you either way. This can be true, and it can still be true that they should have resigned him. They're not mutually exclusive from one another.
  10. I doubt we ever see someone pitch 332 innings and start 39 games like Nolan Ryan did back in the day. You have to think some of these guys are capable of it (not that, maybe 250/32) for many seasons but the new norm is to baby pitchers. And it doesn't seem to be resulting in a reduction of injuries at all. I could be wrong here.
  11. At this point, what pitcher doesn't have some kind of injury history? It feels like everyone either has an injury or they're healthy and then you sign them and they get injured. Which is weird given how starting pitchers are throwing less innings now a days. I miss the days of old where work horses went 240 innings plus on the regular and pitched full careers.
  12. The thing about giving out QO's is even if it inflates the payroll it makes it very easy to reset the following year. Looking at a Devers extension the year after that might hold a lot of value.
  13. To be fair, given the FA class and the mandate Bloom had presumably been given this may be the year to judge him on what he does with that money. Seeing how the Sox have about 100 million per to spend.
  14. Well, we did get multiple years of control of Verdugo for a 1/3 of a year of control of Betts. That alone wins the trade. It looks bad because of how good Betts is now under a new contract but it comes down to what you do with that money which makes it almost impossible to evaluate. But one of those moves was Hunter Renfroe. He also added Kike and other assets that ultimately took them within 2 games of a world series so from a certain perspective he did pretty darn well in that trade. What I want to know is.....what other offers were on the table. I think that's a fair question.
  15. Saurez is a nice player, but a .798 OPS at 30 years old vs. Devers? I'd bank on Devers posting the better WAR over the next 5 years.
  16. It would be hard not too if the Sox are going to be garbage again next year.
  17. Bellow lol. Bello* All errors are on Siri and not my fault.
  18. looking at his BB/9 his entire MiLB career has me unconcerned with 20 MLB innings. Not even close to DH
  19. And how many of those were 22 year olds in Boston? Bellow got great stuff, stuff doesn’t change from minors to majors only the opponents do. Bellow got it, he just has to put it together at this final level. He’s probably got some of the best we’ve seen in years (coming out of our farm) trust me. Still has to translate to the bigs though, I get that, but I’m banking on him.
  20. Schwarber had no place on this team. He's a DH/LF the one thing this team has plenty off. Renfroe is the one trade everyone seem to be on board with being a mistake. I suppose in hindsight you could have traded JDM and let Kyle take his place, but even then....how many more games do you win by adding .04 to your DH spot? At some point a logical conversation takes you to injury derailing this team. Because with a clean bill of health Story more than replaces Hunters bat.
  21. I'm not even sure about Wink either, he might be a lightening in a bottle type. Catch him while he's good, but he has no margin for error. I've seen Bello pitch in person a few times now, I think he's going to be good. How good I have no ideal, who does, but he's going to be the first legit starter we've developed since Clay. It's about damn time.
  22. Yeah, I don't remember ever thinking Renfroe wasn't going to be worth the money, I was skeptical he could duplicate a career year but I didn't think he was going to be bad. There seems to be some revisionist history going on there. But people keep on talking about Renfroe like he would have been the savior of this team. REALLY? he and his .825 OPS is good but not elite by any means. Especially for a corner outfielder. His value is tied to his power which is nice, but how many more games do we win with him on this team? 1-3 maybe. We're still out of the playoff race. It can both be true that Renfroe wasn't saving this team and it was a bad move to trade him though. Also, he's battled a few (minor) injuries this year, and will probably end up playing in about 37 less games this year. I get it the Sox suck, and I suppose the natural response to that is to project that anger out into everything and every move. Leave no stone unturned!!! it's a good thing teams aren't run like that.
  23. Agree 100%
  24. I highly doubt they're going to have Rafaela jump ahead of Bleis. They're lower on Rafaela than most and they really really like Bleis, If anything they have Bleis jump over Yorke. I think it's more likely we see Mayer Casas Bello Bleis Mata Yorke I could be underestimating them on dropping Yorke only a spot or two, but I don't think they have been that shaken by this season.
  25. Personally I'm much higher on Bello than those two, results aside. I think Crawford would be better in the bullpen. I'm not really sure Winckowski has MLB stuff to stick on a roster. I think he's more of a swingman up/down guy. Bello might be special, and I'm sure those words are going to get some posters all hot and bothered because he's not immediately pitching like Roger CLemens.
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