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How can this announcer say that he thinks Machado didn’t hurt Pedey on purpose. Manny is known for being the dirtiest player in the game. He’s take out more people with slides and stepped on more first baseman’s legs than anyone in the league right now
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No one is paying for a 1/3 year rental with a top 40 prospect. That rarely happens.
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That’s what happens with zero moderation. There are other Sox chat forums out there where that type of conversation is kept in check and threads stay on subject. Not saying one is better than the other, just what is.
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The Sox have plenty to offer other than their “3 prized prospects” who shouldn’t even be in the conversation for a deadline rental anyways.
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Giolito is also more than 5 years younger than Sale. One could be forgiven for thinking he had more of a chance of returning to form. Given Baileys track record, I’m curious what he can do with Lucas next year.
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I think most of us thought that was the plan. The lowest common denominator lately is that Henry sucks
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I’m not painting you in this corner. I also would have been ok keeping Sale and banking on him staying healthy, I would have preferes it but I understood the rationale behind the trade. With Story, given the hypothetical we all know how the narrative around here goes Actually, I’d say Yoshida would be a better example. If the Sox traded him and his bat was awesome for two years some of the people that bashed him and wanted his contract dumped would be the same ones saying the Sox should never have traded him.
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True, but Sale is 35, a pitcher, and has an extensive injury history. The risk of injury for him is much higher than average.
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Well we know WHO would say they called Trevor a Bastion of health retroactively
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Which also illustrates the fact that 2024 isn’t over. Still plenty of time for Sale to get hurt. Also, given how little he has pitched over the last few years due to injuries one has to wonder how many miles he can put on that arm in a single season before it blows up again. Of course, if he makes it through this year and has a full healthy offseason one might feel more optimistic about his 2025
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I also have higher expectations of the Sox competing in 2025
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You can kind of make the argument that a blown save is a team stat
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Wouldn’t Story be the new Sale? If Sale can do it, so can Story. Story can come back and play like an All Star next year. Who complains?????
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Let’s be honest bro. No one on earth was talking about exercising that option pre 2024.
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Yes, I would expect any trade for a young player is about the future, that’s sort of the point. What muddles the waters is Grissom getting hurt this year. I also wonder what the Sox expected to get back for Sale if they figured him to be a good pitcher with one year of control left in a year they didn’t figure to compete AND he could likely get injured. Grissom is probably the expected to be an all star caliber 2nd and anything short is a bust; while I definitely had(have) my hopes on his ceiling I think that’s unfair to him. Atlanta, with probably the deepest position roster in baseball, was in the midst of turning Grissom into a utility type . If Story comes back and healthy and Mayers ready that may be what Grissom is here. But if he’s healthy and can hit that’s fine…that’s fine if he can do that for 5 years. Maybe even fill in a season or two here and there when a guy goes down. A la Brock Holt.
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I don’t think it was just about Giolito over Sale. There wasn’t a great market for up the middle defenders and the Sox had a gaping hole at 2nd base. Breslow and Bailey probably thought they could get Giolito right, and given their track record one has to wonder how good he may have been this year if he didn’t get hurt.
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Many blown saves do turn into wins, and involve relief innings where pitchers performed well. There’s also high leverage relief situation in innings where you don’t have the lead. All stats on their own are incomplete, and can’t tell you everything.
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It’s pretty well known that a taxed bullpen is a less effective bullpen. And I think everyone in here would agree with that. Of course a good bullpen is also reliant on…..well a good bullpen.
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Absof***inglutely, right now this trade doesn’t look good. Sale is much more valuable than Grissom. This trade is all about the future, and I think there are some of us who just don’t want to jump on the criticism wagon yet with that in mind. I do wonder if Breslow still makes this trade in hindsight given how Sale, and the Red Sox have performed this year.
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He literally had a nick name for him "frail sale"
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Sale was under contract for 1 year. Grissom has 6 years of team contol. You can't possibly accurately value this trade right now. That's the way the world works.
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No one believes that, it's hilarious though.
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Yeah I just don't see how we can say otherwise, our opinions are based on the biased view of how this season has unfolded. If we had Sale and Gio and he was healthy he certianly would never of gotten a shot. If he got a spot start in late May maybe he's not stretched out and not as effective and never shines like he has. I think it's a very real liklihood we never see this version of Tanner in an alternate universe.
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I could be thinking of another prospect, but I thought Fitts was that guy who actually got stronger and saw his' velo tick up as the season went on last year. He might be an option in the Sox rotation down the road this year.
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I don't disagree at all, just playing devils advocate. I'm certain there are permutations of the future where if a team really wants Fitts for a player the Sox see in their plans then he's gone. Call it a 5-25% chance he's traded.