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Hey, maybe the Sox will be healthy at the end of the year and the rest of the teams will be dealing with a rash of injuries.....or not.

From what I've gathered, a large contributing factor into pitchers getting injured more often is everyone is throwing harder. There seems to be an argument for contributing factors, but it seems obvious to me that pitchers throwing harder is a large driving force. They have all these guys in specialized labs now, coming out with better stuff and throwing harder, but the downside is injury. You can almost assume at this point, that every MLB is going to have some kind of major surgery at some point in their career.

I think there's a difference between being injury prone, and getting injured. Almost everyone is going to sustain some kind of injury at some point in their career. When it becomes chronic, and injuries pile up, that's an entirely different thing. I wouldn't go wasting my picks in the first couple rounds on guys with injuries but in the middle to later rounds I'd happily snag up guys who have upside and fell due to an injury, which sometimes is just the fact that they weren't able to perform so it's more about other guys passing them rather than them falling.

He has options. There would be no need to do that, they could of just sent him back down.

He also got almost no spring training, I expect the rehab to be long, despite what's going on at the big league level.

When you consider how low guys hit in the draft after the first round, I'd be perfectly happy with the Sox picking several guys EVERY year in later rounds that have fallen in rounds and bonus money due to injury. It's a great way to bring talent into the organization. Of course, its going to be a whole lot better to just nail your first pick or three.

Fair....very fair. But that won't stop people in here from suggesting we need to be buyers to bring in what we need.

Kind of hard to be sellers when most of your sell candidates are on the IL

You and me both

He actually looked pretty good until his last two outings before he went on the IL with a shoulder injury. Seems awfully quick to give up on a guy.

Is it just me, or does Reese McGuire look MUCH better behind the plate this year? His defensive metrics were average to better heading into last season and he did not have a very good 2023 at all.

I can’t believe we are still debating this. It’s pretty much established law now that Bloom wasn’t resigning Mookie. John Henry wouldn’t allow it. Just like he didn’t let DD up his offer to Mookie either. It all comes down to Henry, continuing to s*** on Bloom years after the fact and after he’s gone is creepily weird. Like texting your ex girlfriend years later on Valentine’s Day creepy weird.

Having Joely in here makes me nervous.

By that unit of measure, who doesn’t have some kind of red flag? They say that it’s expected that every pitcher is going to have TJS at some point the way guys pitch. Some get hurt, recover and don’t skip a beat, others turn into an injury machine and suffer set back after set back after set back (Sale Story are good examples). Did Albert Pujols have Red flags? He never lived up to his contract and effectively went from a perennial 1.000 ops guy to a .750 ops guy. I think the Sox decision making is easily worthy of criticism, but you can’t predict many or not most injuries. Guys get hurt, and the older they are, the more likely they’re to get hurt or see a decline of production. This is why most free agents never live up to the height. This is why I think it’s more fruitful to criticize the Sox inability to develop and lock up young talent rather than criticize free agent signings. They’ve had plenty of guys live up to the money too

Wait, I think I see the point of some people now. When the Sox are negotiating with free agents they should start asking them the question “Hey, are you going to get hurt?” “How many injuries and years do you plan on missing over the next 7 years”? The fact that they don’t ask this is mind boggling. As a matter a of fact, they really need to start asking guys how many RBIs they plan on having, and how many runs they plan on giving up. I can’t believe they don’t do this now.

Maybe a little extreme… … … … Maybe

Looks like Cam Booser is going to get a look. He’s looked great in AAA

Should we just start the realistic 2025 thread now? O'Neil Giolito Pivetta Cambell Story Grissom Refsnyder Gonzalez And now possibly Whitlock/Devers. I know with pitching injuries are up across the game, but it seems like the Sox have an allergy to staying healthy.

A better bullpen would have equated this game to a nice comeback victory (minus the injuries) wait, the potential of injury to Whitlock/Devers just sucks. Regardless I think Joely is wasted space on this roser, him along with Dalbec. I think Winc would be better with more depth in the pen and not being needed to go multiple innings evertime out.

Roman Anthony - Defense: Red Sox believe he can stick in center field long-term, but others believe he ends up in a corner. Strong defensive instincts. Has played a strong center field so far, showing good reads off the bat and nice paths to the ball. Makes plays that a lot of center fielders cannot make. Ability to stay in center will depend on whether he can retain his athleticism as he matures. Potential above-average defensive profile. Arm: Above-average arm strength. Summation: Potential above-average regular. Ceiling of a regular all-star. Key to reaching his potential will be showing he can consistently make contact against advanced pitching, especially left-handers, and continuing to show he can stick in center field. How his hit tool develops will determine how much of his power potential actualizes. His power is a carrying tool and is very impressive for his age. Showed he was much more advanced at the plate than anticipated in 2023. Exciting prospect with one of the highest ceilings in the system.

Partial scouting reports: Marcelo Mayer - Field: Instinctual defender with very fluid actions. Looks like he is gliding on the field. Soft hands and solid footwork. Moves well and has plenty of range for shortstop. Confident defender; will take a flashy infield. Potential plus defender at short. Arm: Plus arm, plenty for shortstop. Able to make all the throws with plenty of zip. Summation: Potential above-average regular. Ceiling of a regular all-star. Has all the tools you look for in a future everyday shortstop and the offensive upside to hit at the top of a contending team's lineup. Game comes easy to him. Potential for four above-average-or-better tools. Should be able to stick at shortstop and hit for a high average with power. Was regarded by some as one of the best, if not the best, defenders in the 2021 draft. Complete profile on both sides of the ball gives him an all-star ceiling, but development has been somewhat slowed by long-term injuries in both 2022 and 2023.

Cam Booser or Zach Kelly could improve this bullpen right now. The former would require you to DFA a guy, unless an il stunt is imminent. Would anyone cry if Joely was DFA’d? Kenley is worth seeing if he can get it right but with the former I’m ready to move on.

I’ve seen enough of Joely, bullpen would be a lot better with some subtraction

The difference is a few hundred miles. I just don't believe a guy can field baseball in multiple positions plus to better defense and then all of a sudden get mixed up by it at the MLB level. I'm also not convinced the bat is ever really there for Rafaela, positional versatility helps his value. I'm 100% for seeing if he can be the full time CF long term, but right now he makes all the sense in the world at SS.

Actually, isn't it faster at the MILB level?