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Baring injury or regression, I don’t see how any of those 4 don’t debut at some point in 2025.

With graduations soon Roman could be #1 this offseason. A healthy Perales likely makes this list. Still, 6 top 100’s are impressive. all position players, with many mlb positions already filled with young talent. its almost as if…….theres nothing left to do but spend money on pitching.

Everything is a risk. There's a risk that we trade away Anthony, Mayer, or others and they turn into hall of famers. There's a risk the pitcher we trade for becomes injured. There's risk he can't pitch here or seriously declines. The same risks come with free agent pitchers you sign as well. There's also the risk of doing nothing and not receiving peak value from guys on your farm. What I want.....is a front office with some conviction. I don't blame brez yet, because he effectively got the keys to the car when it was still a few years away from it's destination. But the Sox are in a much better spot today than they have in a long time. Are they in a great spot? no, could it be better? yes. But they have a winning record, a chance to make the playoffs and two young cores. One already in the bigs (Bello, Houck, Wong, Casas, Rafaela, Abreu, Hamilton, Crawford, and Duran) and another wave on the cusp of contribution (Anthony/Teel/Campbell/Mayer). They could really jump start this core and compete next year if they would invest in pitching. I believe. Even if a 1/2 those guys falter, you conveivably don't have to make any major position player moves for the next several years. So the money is there to pay a few pitchers....if they chose to. As stated earlier, theres more than one way to skin a cat, thus, there are multiple ways to bring in starting pitching talent: draft and develop, trade for, and free agency. I beleive there's a time and a place for everything. I'd love to see this team bet on themselves, and go out and spend on pitching. Let the next wave of top prospects coming up be the trade pieces we use to put us over the top, or trade for another pitcher when we lose one of our top ones. This is a great way to jumpstart the core, and have a good 3-4 year window of success, but it would go a long way to prolong that window if they could start developing some pitching.

Jarren Duran, Kyle Teel, Marcelo Mayer, and Roman Anthony for Skubal?

Well…..I have hope we might be picking 30th next year

When Bieber recovers he have just turned 30 with the talent to be a CY young candidate. Hill is…..over the hill. they’re not the same.

Add. Even if you could decipher the Sox budget from the last few years, on paper, they have the money to spend on pitching this offseason with seemingly no other holes. are they going to spend $60 million on a catcher? A SS? A 1B? Or a CFer? No need to, go get some pitching. I have my own budget. I can spend it on some tickets and a jersey, or I can go out and buy a nice new whiney pitch fork. balls in your court Mr. Henry

I get the line of thinking by some to offload some money. But I’m tired of curtailing my wishlist to the mindset of a mid market team. This is Boston, not Cleveland. I think we need to either trade prospect capital for an Ace, or buy one this winter. Preferably both. yoshida is fine, he keeps hitting he might be very tradeable by the next deadline when the outfield gets very tight. (Hopefully)

Because he got off to a slow start.

But that's just the thing. We should expect it, we should be dissapointed when it doesn't happen, and we should demand a front office that invests in the team. The only teams that constantly pull in more revenue and has a higher valuation is the Yankees and the Dodgers. We are right up there with the big boys. Letting guys like Betts, Bogaerts walk away, and not addressing the core needs of this team over a decade is not defensable. They have had the resources and ability to spend and be a sustainable winner AND make money. If the Sox aren't going after premium players, we should be upset. Or at least, I'm upset.

FWIW Bello has been great in the second half. Very encouraging after a rough year and considering he’s about 3 years younger than Houck and Crawford

I wouldn’t put those signings in the same stratosphere as Bieber. How does Beiber compare to Hill? only similarities are having surgery, people clamored for Eovaldi to come back and he’s had two. whats scares people off is the thought of the Red Sox doing that and only that. But if the Sox gave Beiber a 1-2 year deal AND signed Burnes or traded for an ACE, no one would be complaining about that. Or at least I don’t think they would.

Bieber type signings? like which ones? Paxton? Paxton worked out fine, might of really helped us if the team as a whole didn't suck last year. Also, nobody hates "Beiber" signings, they hate that the Sox do that and nothing else. They don't call it dumpster diving when it's not in lieu of something else. Kind of like when we traded for JBJ a few years ago? some of us here (myself included) loved it because we thought it predated another move....it did not. I'd love a Bieber signing, if it was also in conjunction with another real big move (like Burnes/Fried/Trade). There's a legit chance he comes back to a rotation as a TOTRS starter by mid year next year. If Houck is better conditioned, you could go into the post season with three aces next year. All while staying under the cap. I'll accept that position Mr. Henry.

Nah, I say go big or go home or drive John Henry out of town. They've never had less excuses than this year to not spend. They're competitive, they have a young core and a top farm system coming up to supplement the big leauge club and they have money off the books with money to spend. If they don't spend now, they should be tarred and feathered and chased down to Florida. Give me Burnes/Beiber. Burnes/Houck/Giolito/Bello/Crawford Depth: Criswell/preister/Fitts/Winck. Beiber comes back mid season. So your rotation down the stretch if healthy is Burnes/Beiber/Houck/Giolito/Bello. ***No prospects were harmed in the making of this roster.

If you think you need to trade Mayer now while his value is high because his injury risk depletes his value. If there's any validity to that argument then his value is already down. Other teams now what they're getting themselves into. I'd be lying if I was to say Im' not concerned with Mayers health, but I'm not super concerned either. As of right now it seems to be more conditioning than any real big physical problems. Could be due to never really spending time in a weight room. If that hasn't changed.....it really needs to.

my original was "a red sox fan named hugh" I'm very creative.

I wouldn't mind my accounts merged....maybe then I can be more than just a "verified member" I actually don't care. I just wanna talk baseball.

Nothing like a good old 5 game winning streak to crush your hopes and dreams. Really the whole second half has been uninspiring.

How ironic would it be for this game to go extra innings and delay the start of the evening game?

I don't blame you, but don't worry, we will post the good stuff on here.

But you're here, so there is that.

Elon wants you to know that it's X not Twitter.

Change is a part of life my friends.....and so a new era begins.

Alex Speier

No but last year he hit much better at Petco park than he did on the road, oddly enough.