But if you want a measure of how good a hitter is, OPS, OBP, wOBA, wRC, OPS+, RC and probably a few others all give more information than batting average…
The number of walks Devers has this year is absolutely not the least informative stat. It tells you exactly how many walks he has. Right down to the very last walk.
That you can or cannot determine any root causes or hypotheticals from this doesn’t change that. That kind of logic can be applied to lots of stats, if not all of them.
Remember - stats on their are a record of a players history, not his ability. We use this history to quantify ability in most cases. But it’s not a perfect method and never will be…
You’re moving the goal posts.
I said no stat gives you less information about a hitter than batting average. If you disagree, tell me what stat is less informative?
Baez was also a rental. The Sox rented Kyle Schwarber that same deadline for nothing comparatively.
Kike will have appeal as a trade target. No one is going all in and unloading a top prospect for him. But certainly the Sox can get a player with a future for him…
You do occasionally see a team do quite well when selling, even without obvious overpays for rentals, like the Mets sending Pete Crow-Armstrong in order to rent Javier Baez. For example, giving up Scott Effross got Hayden Weneski into the Cubs’ rotation. The Orioles acquired stud reliever Yennier Cano in the Jorge Lopez trade. The Pirates got Oneil Cruz for Tony Watson…
The eye test is subjective and biased and often incomplete. If I asked you for an assessment of Arraez as a hitter, you’d probably have to look up stats due to a complete dearth of eye test data this year…
I liked Lopez, too. But if you go by BTV’s model, Duran was only worth a surplus value of $5.9mill when that deal was made. His new (and possibly already outdated) surplus value of $30.8mill is significantly better. Whether or not Miami cares is another matter. But that they got a reigning batting champion for Lopez does place the bat for him much higher.
But this is a case where each team has a surplus in one area and a clear need in another. If Miami insist on Arraez-level players, the Sox (and most teams) are out…
Paxton and Turner likely have the biggest appeal. Kike might as well due to his versatility and CF defense. I could see Duvall.
But it’s hard to say. There might not be too many sellers since most of MLB, Sox included, aren’t that far of the place for the third wild card…
The Sox match up with the Marlins on BTV.
The Sox have depth IN CF with Duran (30.4) and Rafaela (25.3). These do match up with a few the Marlins’ SP, including Rogers (33.4), Luzardo (27.6), Garrett (22), and Cabrera (21.7).
The Marlins desperately need a controllable CF. But no idea how they feel about Duran or Rafaela…
The buyer/seller thing might be more blurred.
Right now there are only 7 teams more than 5.5 GB from the third wild card. Maybe some of the closer ones will be sellers, but they certainly won’t all be. Not even sure how it will get determined.
For example, the Mets and Reds have the same record and are therefore both the same distance from the third wild card. Of course the Reds are also still in the NL Central race while the Mets are in 4th, 9.5 GB.
And yet somehow I suspect the buyer between these two teams isn’t going to be the Reds…
He made the right move. But the problem is the “all he got.” Did Yorke and Drohan fall into his lap, too?
It’s one thing to crap on his bad moves. But looking to dump on the hood ones is just sad. And the thing is, all of your gripes are the free agent “didn’t predict the future to my standards” stuff. Every GM does that. Or his “why can’t he get a good fielder and rant” that included AND THEN TRIED TO JUSTIFY a Hold Glove winning home run champ. “That was two years ago” is not a valid criticism there…
I asked ChatGPT, and it said this could not be determined.
I’m scouring the web for a Talksox from an alternate timeline where the Sox signed none of those players. I found one where they only signed Lackey, but you don’t want to go there. Their version of Notin has a very foul mouth and their Bellhorn is best described as “surly”…