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You made the sweeping generalization. I can apply realistic numbers if you like…
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Because I’m comparing the current rotation to last year’s rotation. Not theoretically possible rotations that could have happened this year to last year’s rotation…
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So there’s no value in a player who goes 0 for 1 with 9 walks in 10 PA?
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I’ve already mentioned it survives on its popularity. It’s not going anywhere, but what does it tell you?
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And yet you only cite BA…
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No it wasn’t. The point was “batting average is the least informative offensive stat.” Let’s start simple - what does batting average tell you about a hitter?
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Red Sox trade Hunter Renfroe in trade involving Jackie Bradley Jr
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It was also a big story when Judge set the AL home run record. Not sure what your point is. If you want to know something about a hitter, which stat tells you the least? BA? OBP? SLG? OPS?
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Right. And it was created because BA wasn’t very telling…
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The performances of Wacha and Eovaldi this year are irrelevant in questioning whether or not the current rotation is an upgrade over last year…
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The rotation I named from last year was worth 5.8 fWAR. The current 5 have 2.5 fWAR. Catching last year is certainly doable…
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We didn’t? Last year the Sox most frequently used SP were Pivetta, Hill, Wacha, Eovaldi and Winckowski Right now the rotation is Paxton, Whitlock, Houck, Bello and Crawford. Is it upgraded over last year?
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Because most mock drafts had him gone by then, likely including their own? The mock drafts all went awry when Davis went at #1
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No one needs them all. But each one is more informative. BA has the advantage of being familiar to even the most casual baseball fan, and so it will never go away. But popularity doesn’t equate to informative…
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They may have been focusing on Leiter because they assumed Mayer would be taken…
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The game threads also strongly suggest the Sox are 0-66…
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The Sox could roll the dice and deal Verdugo. But I suspect one of Duran or Rafaela is more likely. Although probably not to Miami…
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Probably more guaranteed money. The Texas contract has options and incentives that reportedly can reach up to $63mill over 3 years. Maybe Eovaldi chose to bet on himself…
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But if you want a measure of how good a hitter is, OPS, OBP, wOBA, wRC, OPS+, RC and probably a few others all give more information than batting average…
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A great option, except I specifically did say “about a hitter.” Pitcher W-L isn’t the pitching equivalent; it’s far, far less informative…
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The number of walks Devers has this year is absolutely not the least informative stat. It tells you exactly how many walks he has. Right down to the very last walk. That you can or cannot determine any root causes or hypotheticals from this doesn’t change that. That kind of logic can be applied to lots of stats, if not all of them. Remember - stats on their are a record of a players history, not his ability. We use this history to quantify ability in most cases. But it’s not a perfect method and never will be…
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You’re moving the goal posts. I said no stat gives you less information about a hitter than batting average. If you disagree, tell me what stat is less informative?
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Baez was also a rental. The Sox rented Kyle Schwarber that same deadline for nothing comparatively. Kike will have appeal as a trade target. No one is going all in and unloading a top prospect for him. But certainly the Sox can get a player with a future for him…
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You do occasionally see a team do quite well when selling, even without obvious overpays for rentals, like the Mets sending Pete Crow-Armstrong in order to rent Javier Baez. For example, giving up Scott Effross got Hayden Weneski into the Cubs’ rotation. The Orioles acquired stud reliever Yennier Cano in the Jorge Lopez trade. The Pirates got Oneil Cruz for Tony Watson…
