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Again. No. Story and Yoshida combine for $255mill. Mookie signed for $360mill. That’s a big difference. Mookie didn’t sign for the AAV; he signed for the $360mill guaranteed… The Sox could have signed him, but no agreement was reachable.
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Those are two separate stories, despite your sad attempts to combine them. You sound desperate to turn the story into Bloom choosing Story and Yoshia over Mookie and making up math that fits. And above all, making sure Dombrowski is cleared from not signing Mookie. But the reality is Story and Yoshida combine for $255mill, far short of the $360mill it took to sign Mookie. This includes Yoshida’s posting fee, but not luxury taxes signing Mookie would have incurred. Dombrowski had multiple years to extend him and failed to do so. From what has been said, Mookie didn’t seem remarkably eager to extend, so I don’t think this was Dombrowski’s fault. I’m sure he went as high as he was allowed. But it didn’t look like Mookie wanted it to happen at whatever that limit was…
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Some reports had him wanting $400mill…
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Would Mookie have signed for 6 years? Because that’s all the Yoshida/Story money pays for. Unfortunately it’s not as simple as you want it to be. If signing Mookie was as simple as you think, why didn’t Dombrowski get it done?
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They have several fun players in the 25 and under club, including Jack Suwinski, Endy Rodriguez, Henry Davis, and Oneil Cruz. I caught them at Wrigley last September and am going again t this year, since my diehard Cub fan daughter is also a big Andrew McCutchen fan…
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Still haven’t answered why you thought Pittsburgh is a bad team…
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The Red Sox are trying to play without three starting infielders and one backup infielder. (And three starting pitchers.) I’m not wild about who they still have starting, but hoping there is an end in sight. Of course, they need Devers to get healthy as well. All things considered, being above .500 right now is a good sign for Boston. Their biggest weakness has proven to be depth, and they’re still holding on while that gets tested…
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Post 72 You said “ so you are going to have bad teams like Pittsburg, and Boston with winning record” Asking why Pittsburgh is a bad team. You’ve possibly seen the Red Sox play, so whether or not I agree with that conclusion, I know where it’s from. Where is the Pittsburgh conclusion coming from? Also, calling a 23yo with FIFTY CAREER IP a fake meatball pitcher might be a tad premature…
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I was a lone voice of positivity. I have been getting negative because the secondary infield is subpar, to be kind. But it’s also not permanent. So tell me which parts of the Colby College and Sea Dogs games lead you to conclude the Pirates were a bad team? You’re right there was a lot of negativity, but none of it was directed to the Pirates aka the team you said was bad and I asked about…
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The Pirates won 14 more games in 2023 than they did in 2022. I doubt they improve by that much in 2024, but they’re certainly heading in the right direction…
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Huh? Math. Try it…
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Agreed. But the notion that Bloom traded Betts in order to sign Story and Yoshida is an oversimplified rewrite of history with the agenda of disconnecting Dombrowski from Betts’ departure…
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Just making sure no one enjoys the Red Sox? Out of cutiousuty, if you watched yesterday’s game, it was very likely the first time you’ve seen the Pirates play all year. So why do you say they’re a bad team?
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Those 3 teams have a combined record of 28-29. Not stellar but not pushovers either…
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Technically Nate was a free agent…
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You do realize that once Dombrowski gave up trying to extend Betts, he instead spent heavily on Sale and Bogaerts. Those two are the Mookie Compensation. Yoshida was 3 years after Mookie was dealt away…
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Disagree. And I complained about it loudly the day it was signed. But Offerman had a .364 OBP his first 3 seasons back before any is us cared about OBP. His defense at 2b left a lot to be desired but he was ok at 1b. I’m not going to say it was a good deal, but I don’t think of it as a bad one anymore. My only complaint is Roberto Alomar signed for only slightly more that off-season…
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Story and Yoshida together do still make over $100mill less than Mookie. And that’s not factoring in the luxury tax that they would have incurred by keeping Betts. If the Sox wanted to extend Betts, it should have been done long before Henry decided to go cheap…
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My only concern with Devers is his defense. I don't know how long he has been playing 3b. Professionally he has been playing since 2014 and, with the exception of 6 innings in his career, has never played any other position. I don't know for sure, but I would be very surprised if he never played 3B before joining the Sox organization. Will he improve? Maybe. Will he ever excel? I have my doubts and think he will eventually need to move to 1B and then possibly DH. The notion that he just needs more practice is probably a bit silly, as he is undoubtedly practicing a lot already...
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Devers is also 27 years old. Every 20 game stretch in his career is not going to provide equal WAR value. If Vegas set the over under on his WAR at 0.9, would you bet the under? But more important, again he is 27. He very likely has not had his best seasons yet. I've repeatedly referred to free agency as paying players in their 30s for what they did in their 20s for another team. But that really isn't the case with Devers. He was extended at a young enough age and also with a good enough track record that he is vey, very likely going to come very close, if not flat out exceed what he has done in the past. The Sox do not have a long history with doing this kind of thing with their players and whikle Devers might have been the last choice for some to extend among him, Betts and Bogaerts, I'm glad the FO did it...
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What's going on with Mata? He might be a 60 day IL candidate...
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I don’t think the Sox are rushing Hamilton, Reyes and Valdez. They are what they are - players who hold the roles they own due to limited skill sets. They’re all 25 and over and done what they can in AAA. Players like Westbrook and Alvarez might be better at some things, but they’re not going to completely fill any gaps either. Will the Sox claim anyone? No idea. The Angels and Orioles have been playing DFA volleyball with Livan Soto, and the Sox ignored him. The Yankees just DFAd Kevin Smith, and I’d be surprised if Boston claimed him. Neither of these players is a hidden gem, but both at the bare minimum possess a skill the Sox are not getting from their farm system vets - the ability to play SS at least adequately. Maybe now that Refsnyder is up, Boston will commit to Rafaela at SS. But doing so to get Refsnyder into the lineup full time didn’t seem wise to me.
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Multiple injuries? Most teams can survive having a utility infielder in the lineup every now and then. Not many teams go far when they have to use three of them for multiple consecutive days…
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Bring a bad fielder isn’t necessarily a matter of poor understanding of the fundamentals; in many cases, it’s a simple lack of coordination…
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4/18 Cleveland @ Boston, 1:35 pm
notin replied to Maxbialystock's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
They seem hellbent on making Hamilton and Dalbec into Major Leaguers…
