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Everything posted by notin
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Not really. Especially when compared to 2023. Kluber threw 164 IP in 2022. Who was the last pitcher the Sox produced that threw 164 IP in a season?
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For a lot of people, that 4-5% is a big deal…
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Interpretation might. The teams - including the Red Sox - are not the ones in control of the throttle…
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It’s actually surprising right now how many teams have still not done anything. I live among the Cubs’ fans. The team was not eliminated until game 161 last year. And who have they added to get over that hump? The biggest names to date are Jorge Alfaro and Tom Pannone. Even the defending NL East champs - the Phillies - started off free agency bringing back Nola. Since then? Nothing. The Diamondbacks and Astros? Nothing as well. The entire AL East except the Yankees? Nothing. I could go on..
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They might be out 3-4 starters!!
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To be fair, Kluber wasn’t so bad in 2022…
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Definitely not Mata…
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Which one will throw more MLB IP in 2024?
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I’d be relieved…
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Then you must live somewhere with low taxes. It’s a huge factor when you live somewhere that has them…
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Florida…
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So what were they pissed at him for? That’s what I was pissed at him for. That and sending back Graterol…
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I think they want want to maintain the penny-pinching, keep the farm flowing, but not give up on the parent club in August…
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Yes. And it started a few conversations this morning…
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I’m fully on board with this strategy, but those pitchers for obvious reasons, are the least available. And typically not for “a prospect.” They’re not unavailable all the time. But the prospect cost limits you to one unless you prefer project types that may not work out. (My repeated suggestion of Edward Cabrera is a good example here.)
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Bottom line to me is - if you’re not the neighborhood financially, you’re out. That can’t be said about how good of a team you have. Of course you might also be overlooking other factors as well. Ohtani, for example, was obviously far more familiar with Southern California than he was with Toronto. Yamamoto possibly also preferred the proximity to Japan over NYC. We really don’t know of this was a bigger factor than winning, a smaller factor, or a non-factor…
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Do you remember Cal Pohlad?
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It started out with someone suggesting Cora was going to leave for a more competitive team…
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So you agree money roped the list, and only then did other factors come into play?
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But if it was about winning, he could have simply taken the Didgers offer whatever it was and not used the Mets. He didn’t. He got his contract into record territory. The argument that “but he could have set a bigger record” doesn’t change what his priority was. Why did it take a record-setting deal at all?The final teams involved aren’t even all teams coming off good years. But they are all notoriously large spenders. He got the deal he wanted. As for why he chose the Dodgers over the Mets, Ohtani is certainly a possible reason. Proximity to Japan is another. Maybe the cash he saves with the signing bonus that isn’t taxed due to his not residing in CA? Not sure. Possibly all these plus the recent successes. But I just don’t see how winning was his number one priority. Is it on the list? Sure. But where?
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Ok then. That’s what I would have said, too. Deferments aside, I’m not buying winning as the top priority when Ohtani will be collecting nearly 3/4 of a billion dollars for 10 years of baseball. Yes it will take longer to get the money, but Ohtani probably plans on living that long. Im not buying winning is a top priority here. If he took less money, that’d help the argument. But he and Yamamoto clearly prioritized money over winning, and even your arguments support that. Especially the one where he used Cohen to drive up the price…
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Also you seem to have ignored my question about how much Ohtani is getting paid within his lifetime. I don’t expect research; just a gut answer is fine…
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He got it down to the top two bidders. How is that not about money? Now please explain why the Phillies were not a finalist and the Mets were. And make it about winning and success…
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My point - it starts with all offering the same contract. That tells you the top priority…
