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The good news on that front is only the Dodgers are making moves. And at some point, they will at least run out of roster spots, if not actual money. So there are options left…
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How can you tell since he hasn’t started playing yet?
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That also applies to Tampa, Baltimore and Toronto, too. They all lost free agents they haven’t replaced yet…
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I thought Pepiot might be worth mentioning. But is he a step up or down from Glasnow?
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Well if they aren’t going to make any moves…
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I don’t mind the strategy of finding under-appreciated talent and using it to succeed. But at some point, you have to go get that talent…
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Omega Male…
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The only good news so far this off-season is, outside of the Yankees acquiring Soto and Verdugo, the AL East teams have all been equally inactive. The Orioles have brought in Kimbrel, but he’s a step down from Bautista. The Rays have not added anyone and lost Glasnow. The Blue Jays haven’t added anyone and somehow decided to stockpile a few former Sox coaches as their big off-season plan. So at least the gap isn’t widening…
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Well, maybe not. There are teams that simply liked Yamamoto and wanted him. And rather than dump $200mill+ for 8 years on a pitcher they don’t like, might be willing to wait for a pitcher they do. Of course some teams will just want pitching…
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There was no “pivot before their markets blow up” for Montgomery; that’s exactly what he wanted to happen. The only way to sign Montgomery before Yamamoto signed and his market blew up was to preemptively blow up his market…
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No. It’s been bunked. MLBTR is citing Jeff Passan with those numbers https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/12/report-dodgers-to-sign-yoshinobu-yamamoto.html
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They were never going to get Yamamoto…
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Well, we don’t know the other bids yet…
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It doesn’t help that they’re both from Florida…
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He was also drafted in the 15th round once. So Allen, Hicks and Miller were the big losses. Of course they we’re all in a draft where the Sox only had one pick in the top 88 selections.
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I limited my selections to rounds 1 and 2. You know, when you had limited opportunities to take the alleged elite talents. Everyone passed on Logan Allen 15 times. As for their limited pitching prospects, I agree. I never said they were stacked. I am saying that situation greatly predates the mass drafting of shortstops and isn’t much differing at all from when they did take pitchers with high draft picks…
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Well, so far, only Bobby Miller and Jared Hicks are the high draft pick pitchers Bloom passed on to reach MLB. (Spencer Strider and Bryce Elder were 4th and 5th rounders everyone was passing on and now clearly regrets.) It might be a mistake, but we have all seen enough history to know that since the draft is a crapshoot, take the player you like best regardless of position, and let it all get sorted out later. I’m sure there are plenty of stories about teams drafting pitching because they needed pitching and ultimately passing on a player who turned out to be an All Star. Off the top of my head, Gord Ash wanting pitching and taking Rickey Romero over Troy Tulowitzki. I’m sure there are lots of others. The Sox have a dearth of good pitching prospects now. But when was the last time they had an abundance of them? Do we have to go all the way back to Suppan, Pavano and Rose?
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And that can be done. You can’t count on repeatedly finding Garret Whitlocks in Rule 5. But maybe some of these top tier shortstops are tradable for an arm or two.
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Maybe. But I doubt they went stagnant with the scouting and development processes over the decade plus between Lester and Houck. Bloom tried something new. Maybe he thought of converting athletes. Maybe he thought he could trade better players for pitching. Maybe both. But the act of simply drafting pitchers because you need them has been a failure far more often than not..
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But trying to force the pitcher into the draft because you think you need one causes you to pass on superior talent. Essentially you’re talking about drafting position over talent. Might as well justify taking Trey Ball over Aaron Judge…
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IFA seems to be just as good if not better…
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And from 2010 through 2013, they took six pitchers in the first round (counting supplemental picks) and the biggest success story was Matt Barnes…
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But that all predates the mass-drafting of shortstops, right? They took pitchers and had some successes and more failures. Should they have just kept beating that horse beyond death until it was a pile of horse molecules? Or maybe tried a new approach?
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Yes if you assume the Sox only started drafting in 2020. They’ve taken many pitchers highly in the drafted and gotten nothing or close to it from plenty of them…
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Is the success rate of high school pitchers so high that they must be prioritized?
