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Article: Is Next Year’s Closer Already in the Organization?
notin replied to Alex Mayes's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
I’m just hoping they keep him and Whitlock in the bullpen. If either does start, hopefully it’s only as an opener…- 38 replies
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Just like with starting pitching, we all know who the better relievers are. Sign them. Look at Tanner Scott or Andrew Chafin instead of Joely Rodríguez, for example. Real money? The Sox spent about $16mill AAV for Jansen and $8mill for Martin. If we spend that on starters, what do we get? Frankie Montas and Martin Perez or Wade Miley? Would they be considered “proven commodities”? The best RP are going to be cheaper than the best SP. Instead of paying heavily to upgrade the rotation, upgrade the bullpen for less and get depth for the rotation. Or are you arguing against upgrading the bullpen because Sims and Garcia struggled? It’s not like everyone the Sox have plugged into the rotation was an immediate impact either. I didn’t choose Perez and Wiley solely because they fit my salary requirements…
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Article: Is Next Year’s Closer Already in the Organization?
notin replied to Alex Mayes's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
His only bad year was 2023 in Chicago, and that anticipated TJ surgery. He’s a former ROY and a good pitcher…- 38 replies
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Article: Is Next Year’s Closer Already in the Organization?
notin replied to Alex Mayes's topic in Talk Sox Front Page News
No mention of former closer Fulmer? Martin is an option to come back, but not as a closer.- 38 replies
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Absolutely. Starters cost too much and break too easily. They’re the fine China of the pitching world. I disagree that relievers are volatile pitchers, and rather prefer to say volatile pitchers are relievers. There is a difference; some relievers are steady, reliable contributors. Focus on them. One thing you repeatedly say that I agree with completely is it’s a bullpen game now. The Sox should get a SP, plus some depth. But focus on the pen. Not necessarily the closer, who only handles 60-70 IP. But also those middle to setup guys, who might have to pi some 300-400 IP combined..
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Any combination of them might be added next season. None of them will be added before the Rule 5 draft…
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I wouldn’t protect Monegro. Players in high A ball do get selected, but not very often and they get returned a lot. I could see protecting Garcia, because the glove plays and makes him a viable 4th outfielder on some teams. But the Sox might not care. Maybe they think he’s another Cole Sturgeon. Given how teams rely less on their starters these days, it’s no longer easy to hide a guy in the bullpen. Especially if you’re trying to contend…
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I have my doubts either Mayer or Campbell begin the 2025 season on the 40 man roster, let alone in the starting lineup. Ditto Anthony…
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I’m guilty of overvaluing, which is why I like the concrete third party BTV valuations. I like their simple idea - future WAR projection (in USD) minus future salary/salary projections. Do real MLB teams do this? Very likely, yes. Not necessarily with the same projections, but they mostly do something similar. Of course, unlike BTV, they know which players and positions they prefer…
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So I looked at the Sox 40 man and Rule 5 eligible. Once the free agents declare and the IL guys are added back on, the Sox have one spot on the 40 man (unless I miscounted, which I did). On their list of Rule 5 players, there are only 3 players worth keeping - Fulmer, Dobbins and Jhostnixon Garcia. There is a much bigger list of players on the 40 man that could be DFAd. Starting with Mata, Booser, Horn, Bernardino and Wikelman. Doubtful they DFA Booser and Bernardino, but any of the rest can go and likely clear waivers. I see no potential roster crunch. In fact, the Sox could DFA all of the listed players except Booser and BB and then make a Rule 5 pick…
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I’m a bigger Crawford supporter than most. But this deal for Boston has to offset Castillo’s salary…
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I’d make that deal, too. From the tone of the post, it felt like you were saying these deals were unrealistic and lop-sided. I don’t think that one is. It’s. a fair price for a guy who threw BP during games for the final month. The real obstacle is one BTV can never overcome - would the Angels want Hamilton and Winkie? They might, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they preferred different names that combined for the same surplus value…
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That Detmers trade is far from outrageous. Detmers was great in 2022. Worse but still serviceable in 2023. Last year he started out awful, got demoted for June through August. He came back and made starts in September, but got battered around to the tune of a .990 OPSA. And he in now entering his arbitration years. He’s still young, but it’s hardly surprising BTV sets his price where they do…
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The projections BTV is using say Castillo is a 2 WAR pitcher paid like a 3 WAR pitcher. BTV also says a deal of Yoshida straight up for Castillo is an overpay by Boston. However, I’d make that trade, overpay or not. And I’d be willing to even take on Garver’s deadweight deal as well with no further additions…
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Extremely doubtful the Sox deal Casas straight up for Castillo, let alone take on Haniger as well. If either team is adding a salary dump in that deal, it isn’t Seattle…
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I am not so sure the David Price contract is a great example of the flexibility of this ownership, given that the Sox paid about $131mill for a guy who pitched like Tanner Roark (who made roughly $105mill less during those years)…
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It depends on Rafaela as well. If he’s Kevin Kiermaier 2.0, the extension is likely helpful. If he’s Kevin Pillar 2.0, maybe not so much..
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The Sox new mid-to-small market philosophy doesn’t lend itself to signing top tier free agent SPs. Now, closers have always historically been better investments since the money is less and the years often shorter…
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Bloom indicated he always felt Devers’ future was at 1b when negotiating his deal and comparing him to Matt Olson. But yes, the Sox would need a 3b. Doubtful they spring for Bregman. Maybe Eugenio Suarez is closer to their price range…
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Does anybody? Besides opposing hitters? Montas hasn’t been very good when not pitching in Oakland and it’s massive playing surface with lots of helpful foul territory…
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I’d prefer Casas over a few other LHH trade options. The Sox attempting to extend him bodes well for him staying, but his refusal to sign (so far) might change that…
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