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Everything posted by notin
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Of course I want them to compete regularly, which is why I was annoyed with Bloom for white flagging two seasons when they were just a couple games out. I also understand that you can compete for a postseason spot and still miss out on the postseason.
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Would Houck be a better pitcher if he was 14-8? Of course not. Thats sort of the point. Sale dominated his way to the Triple Crown and his 18-3 record. But if you look at Shota Imanaga, he was 15-3 and not nearly as dominant despite similar W-L records. Hunter Greene was 9-5 and was pretty dominant on his own. But W-L record shows none of this… -
I think stop calling them “wins” and find another term. Or define a pitcher by QS rather than wins.
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You didn’t, but others have. I can argue W-L record is less revealing than any other stat, even in the case of Sale. If it isn’t the least reveling stat, what is? Sale was 18-3 because he was dominant. He wasn’t dominant because he was 18-3. Sure this ground has been covered, but it always starts with someone saying “I don’t like WAR because…” Also some pitchers might care about their W-L records. But some undoubtedly don’t, especially since MLB and BBWAA stopped using them to determine awards and teams stopped paying for them. Whether or not you think they do is irrelevant, and the reality is sweeping generalizations are incorrect more often than not…
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Is $18mill “high priced”?
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Don’t you live in San Francisco? Real big commitment from you there…
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Plenty of things go into many pitcher stats. But of all the pitching stats out there, none of them are less revealing about a pitcher than W-L record. If I asked everyone on this forum to get examples of this, we could all easily get a dozen unique ones. If I tried the same thing with ERA, would anyone be able to find a single example?
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My dad took me to Fenway to see some bad Red Sox teams. Maybe we should have just stayed home. Sure there was the familial bonding crap, but ultimately we were supporting a bad team!! The shame!
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Yeah I’m not sure who people want to spend on right now. Bullpen arms like Hoffman, Yates, Finnegan and Estevez do make sense. The catching market is bleak, but maybe Elias Diaz? Beyond that? Not sure. Bregman if he is playing 3b. I’m ok with that. Santander? Pass. His deal will outlive his usefulness. I like Profar but I get passing. They reportedly looked into Grichuk, hopefully as a weak side platoon with Abreu. That makes sense. I like Ramon Laureano better for that role, but Grichuk’s not bad. It does seem to me the easiest OF solution is Anthony in LF, Duran in CF, Abreu/Rafaela in RF. As of today, 30 of the MLBTR top 50 free agents remain unsigned. There are players out there…
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They’ve been mediocre the last few years. Bloom’s deadline indecisiveness tanked two seasons. Breslow was at least a buyer at the deadline, but a lot of things fell apart…
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Well you said billionaire owner puts a cheap product on the field, and thats Ricketts. I mean, the team has only won the World Series once since Teddy Roosevelt was president and the country only had 46 states. But folks flock to that park all the same…
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How much were tickets back then?
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So are you trying to discourage me from going to Cubs’ games?
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I’d question anyone who claimed to be an ardent fan who always knows what the team wants, and then says they rooted for the team “to lose to improve their draft position.” Draft position? In the MLB draft? Also - this is MLB. Mediocrity quite often does compete for playoff spots…
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One thing about wins, strikeouts and ERA is they all ignore the very important Innings Pitched stat. (ERA does use it in the formula, but your ERA doesn’t get better with more IP. In fact, very often the opposite.) A pitcher who can continually pitch and keep himself on the mound is a rare and very useful thing.,.
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Yoshida did play one inning in LF last year. Was that because Cora suspected a plague outbreak was imminent? And his first thought was “This is it!! It’s back!! Time for evasive action! Get Yoshida in the outfield NOW!!!” Maybe Cora got Yoshida out there in time and curtailed the plague. Maybe it was a false alarm. We may never know. But we are all still safe…
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No one asked you to be among them. But not everything baseball fan is a fan for the same reason. And expecting others to curtail their viewing practices to meet your needs is flat out wrong. Its something I expect from that Diehard Star Wars Nerd crowd my profession is loaded with who tell me I’m wrong for liking A Solo Story because “it wasn’t part of the original saga and just something Hollywood made for money.” Ok. I still found it entertaining. And I’m not wrong for liking it…
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No. YOUR entertainment needs are not being met. The people actually paying money to go to games don’t seem to mind as much. That’s why they’re there…
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There is and it’s been done. That’s exactly what WAR is - the better way. It’s not perfect and will probably be replaced by something even more involved. But in its present state, it’s better than wins and ERA…
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And sometimes the guys with more wins just play on better teams. In 2005, Bartolo Colon had a 21-8 W-L record and used it to win the Cy Young Award. Why? Johan Santana beat him in every single pitching star except wins. Better ERA, better WHIP, better K/9, better BB/9. Basically was a better pitcher. But he was only 16-7. A big factor there is Santana pitched for a Twins team that simply wasn’t very good, finishing 83-79. While Colon won more games for the 95-67 Angels. So was Colon really the better pitcher in 2005? Or did he just pitch for a better team?
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Yeah it’s appalling that these fans refuse to put aside their entertainment needs because the unrealistic expectations of others are not being met. f***ing selfish…
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Reportedly they’re not on the same page and maybe that’s why Bregman hasn’t been signed…
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The problem with signing Bregman is that Breslow can see him as a third baseman until the end of time, but Cora puts the lineup together. So if Cora want him at 2b, he’s playing 2b…
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Narvaez is on the 40 man roster. Zavala is not..,
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The right pitcher getting the win being correct “most of the time” isn’t real useful considering most pitchers get less than 10 wins per year. A century ago, when the starting pitcher threw all 9 innings, pitching wins were more useful. But the advent and growing use of bullpens has made them a useless evaluation tool. Especially since they did nothing to tell you how good relief pitchers were, which is why ERA was devised in the first place. fWAR and bWAR are good ones today, whether or not you know how to calculate them. And someday, they’ll be replaced, just like VORP and WARP and Win Shares all were.
