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All off season, absolutely fans on this board wished we were more like the Dodgers, largely probably due to their recent success. I get wanting to be as successful, but that formula does include lots of depth, (and apparently playing players in new positions - not sure if that’s as necessary as the depth). Now the Sox have some solid position player depth and can withstand injuries, and people want to break it up, because the lineup “is clogged” or our defense at Fenway won’t work in Yankee Stadium…
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I was going by WAR and age. I actually thought the two pitchers were closer in age…
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San Francisco. Weak back end to the rotation. Super duper 1b prospect debuting this year. Pribably a few others….
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Curse that MLB rule that teams have to use the same lineup at Yankee Stadium that they use in home games. If it’s a minus in certain parks, it’s Cora’s fault for deploying it. And fans need to let go of their unrealistic “these are the starting nine” expectations. Teams simply do not do that anymore. Backup players make millions of dollars and get playing time primarily to not rust. The resting of regular starters is not as important as many believe. All off-season, fans wanted this team to be the Dodgers, a team that spends heavily, clogs their lineup, stockpiles depth, and blocks prospects. The second the Red Sox do these things, we have a bunch of people trying un-Dodger the team and get back to 9 obvious starters and 4 obvious bench players, one of whom must be that all important backup first baseman. Teams can have their entire season derailed without one…
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So what’s in this deal for Seattle? Saving $18mill over 3 years?
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It’s not necessary to move either one. This is a Strawman argument.
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And dealing Yoshida is the only possible option!!! (this is sarcasm)
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… which is a dumb criticism of a player who still has all his options. And if he’s clogging up the lineup, isnt that a problem created by Cora?
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steamer doesn’t give a s*** about Crawford’s value on a website they may have never heard of. But playing time is a factor in projections, and if a player’s role is to be reduced for whatever reason, it will impair most projections. Not ones like Steamer 600 that normalize it anyway. But Zips and Steamer? Absolutely. And this happens regardless of player talent. Crawford isnt any worse than last year; just expected to pitch in a smaller role…
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Normally, but Castillo is 3 plus years older. Is Castillo ages 32-34 better than Crawford ages 29-31?
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Then why get rid of Yoshida?
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If that’s the case, Seattle is unlikely to make this deal…
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If you look at Fangraphs, Crawford is projected for 54 games and 18 starts by both Zips and Steamer.. Thats going to dent his projections. It is a loophole, but it is also one that gets exploited in real trades on occasion
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ZiPS and Steamer both project Crawford as a reliever. 54 games, 18 starts. Thats reliever numbers. Of course he’s going to get less WAR than as starting pitcher. Whats tomorrow’s big reveal? That Cal Raleigh will have better projections than Carlos Narvaez?
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And that was when I jumped in - the inclusion of Fitts and Priester. But even the original deal was designed to exploit a loophole in BTVs system. That loophole involves players looking at reduced or benched roles despite their talent. Crawford might be looking at a reliever role. As such, he would likely post less WAR than as a starter, which would then reduce his value on BTV. As they allegedly use multiple projections, if one of them projects Crawford’s bullpen numbers, it would alter his value on their site . And that reduced value makes this trade look equal…
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So you think the lateral move from Crawford to Castillo that includes unloading three pitching prospects - two of which have already debuted in MLB - is reasonable?
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You’re changing the argument. The reason this deal is bad is Castillo is NOT an upgrade over Crawford. He’s just more expensive. Did BTV provide any insights there? You were provided WAR values from two websites. Why are they not in your conclusion?
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That proposal was LIGHT YEARS from being a good deal. Castillo (1.8 bWAR / 2.3 fWAR) is arguably NOT an upgrade over Crawford (2.0 bWAR / 1.9 fWAR), unless you’re looking to upgrade the payroll commitments by over $70mill. But to include two MLB-ready pitchers plus for the sole purpose of unloading a contract that is hardly a problem WHILE TAKING ON A WORSE ONE? Why not just pair up Yoshida with Roman Anthony or Kristian Campbell with Yoshida so we can pick up someone’s perception of a lock down closer??
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Why? Yoshida’s contract is hardly prohibitive. Especially if people live in a fantasy world that if the Sox save that money, they’ll spend it elsewhere…
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Speaking for Castillo AND changing the deal midstream?!?! I mean, maybe Castillo isnt exactly thrilled with the Mariners this off-season, where there biggest acquisition is a debate between Shintaro Fujinami or Miles Mastrobuoni…
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Why not? Im not a big fan of platoons, because it often compromises defense at some point (except DH platoons, which are probably the most common ones). But overall, platoons are a very widespread solution employed by plenty of teams, including the Sox in recent years. And they don’t happen by accident. Refsnyder has only one outstanding baseball skill - the ability to crush LHP - and beyond that he’s a borderline MLB. talent at his best. But why not exploit that one skill when necessary…
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A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
notin replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
DH platoon with Yoshida would be my guess. Cora will find a place for him… -
A Realistic View of the 2025 Red Sox: Part I
notin replied to moonslav59's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
1. Losing O’Neill against LHP could be big, but last year the Sox faced a LHSP 43 times while facing a RHSP 119 times. Why is the focus on the 43 games? 2. Abreu only started 6 games vs LHSP last year, and I have my doubts Cora increases that number by much, if at all, unless injuries force his hand. It looks like Refsnyder is his platoon partner in the OF, and since Cora did re-arrange the outfielders last year to keep Ref’s poor D from being exploited, I would imagine that continues. 3. Romy could get more time against LHSP next year. Gonzalez did crush LHP last year with an OPS over .900, and I would expect his performance against them contributed to his second overall finish on the Sox in exit velocity. 4. Fans don’t like platoons for large market teams, and they are more prevalent on teams with lower payrolls. Cora clearly has no issue with them. Don’t rely on Roster Resource for their platoon info; that site definitely loves suggesting them everywhere possible.. -
But those changes are inevitable and this year the Sox are more prepared than in the past few. For example, last year the Dodgers used 22 position players and 38 pitchers, a far cry from the 13 of each on their opening day roster…
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Sure, until someone gets hurt. Happens every year. All three of Story, Casas and Devers had injuries last year…
