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What were your expectations going into that season? I didn't know what to expect myself, especially since I hated the Sandoval signing. But I don't think last place looked obvious. (Not to mention, simply calling them last place does ignore that the team won 78 games, a very rare high amount for a last place team. They were essentially a .500 ball club, not a 60-102 team.)
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Why not? In this case, the team he inherited certainly had the foundation of a World Series champion. They won it as recently as 2013. It's not like he inherited a hopeless team with no talent and no farm system...
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Do you honestly think those were bad teams? Or good teams that may have a flaw or two? The 2014 team was basically the exact same thing as the 2013 World Series Champion team. I would agree that being status quo was not a good thing, but did you really expect last place? Or did this team simply underachieve?
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To be fair, I wasn’t sure why you thought Beeks was more promising than Owens. Owens didn’t work out but did have the occasional outing that made people think there was some hope for him. Beeks hasn’t even done that yet...
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Unless the Sox add Dixon Machado
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I doubt they trade Bradley anyway, but the point is it might make more sense to deal for a RF who can hit...
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Reportedly the Sox had the chance to deal Bradley for Yasiel Puig before the season started. While Puig is not a CF, he is a solid RF and Betts is elite in any outfield spot. The idea of dealing Bradley for another CF seems like an odd match for any team, especially straight up. Someone will be downgrading and the deal would be imbalanced. Granted, there might be an instance where it works, like one team wants more defense, and one more offense. But then the Sox are near the top ofthe league in most offensive categories, So why try to slightly improve there while weakening the defense? Now the Sox might be able to deal Bradley for a RF (like the Puig deal) and move Betts to CF. Not sure what team matches up although since Bradley has 2+ years left, it might not necessarily be a team looking to stay in contention this year...
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My cue? Actually his UZR/150 went from -0.3 last year to 3.5 this year. Now it could go back down as the season wears on, but to date the metrics support your observation...
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Can you at least agree that the other 3 are all better than he is?
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Beeks isn't very good. Hopefully they won't need him for much...
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Well, the argument hinged on his very low BABIP when compared to his line drive rate and hard hit rate. Very similar to how many on this board were (correctly) predicting Jackie Bradley would eventually break out of his slump using similar criteria. Brock Holt hasa similar line drive rate to Dixon Machado and a lower hard hit rate, but has a BABIP a full .102 higher, which means he might be due for a little regression to the mean himself. And Nunez has not been getting it done with either the glove or the bat this year and he is barely outhitting Machado while playing worse defense by the metrics. Health is probably a factor, but will he ever be fully healthy this year? The Sox do have the mercurial Brandon Phillips as an option. But having two options is usually better than having just one.
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I don’t like Benintendi in CF either...
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Well, a last place team with 15 players with World Series rings...
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We weren’t going to get Jose Abreu for Santiago Espinal...
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Every organization has a Sam Travis already...
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If the Orioles do that, throw in Dan Butler and see if that’s enough for them to include Dylan Bundy...
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Well if we didn’t go 71-91, we might not have Benintendi. If you want a glass that’s half full...
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So who replaced Lucchino as the Corporate Scapegoat?
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It's not about waiting for them to develop. You have repeatedly said the Sox gave up "garbage" in their trades. Now if Yoan Moncada (97OPS+ in 549PA at 23 years old) and Manny Margot (OPS+ 86 in 885PA at 23 years old) were performing similarly on the Sox, would you recommend they be replaced? If so, you'd hardly be the only fan. But on the other hand, both players are only 23 and don't have much experience. Not to mention most of the payers the Sox have dealt away have not even reached the majors yet, including Kopech, Dubon, Basabe, Espinoza, Guerra, etc.). I think calling them garbage is a bit premature. They might be that way, but not yet...
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Agreed. Reportedly the goal was to emulate the Braves’ farm system from the 1990’s and have a continual stream of prospects in Fenway. The Braves did manage a division title or two in that stretch...
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Except that he didn’t get fired. He quit. I know his critics struggle with this, but Dombrowski was brought in to replace Lucchino, not Cherington. Some articles even made it sound like Dombrowski was disappointed Cherington quit. Now maybe Cherington saw the writing on the wall and figured he had little time left. Maybe he figured he wouldn’t like his new (potentially reduced) role. Or maybe he figured he couldn’t work with Dombrowski. Or very likely, some combination of those three things. But there is a lot more print dedicated to him quitting than there is to him not getting another GM job because no team would trust him with their payroll. Now I don’t know if Lucchino was fired or asked to retire. But I think even Dombrowski should have respected the job Cherington did building the farm enough that firing him would have been a stupid thing to do...
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Christian Vazquez breaks finger, headed for DL
notin replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
It didn't look that way to me. If they got an offer they liked for Swihart 6 weeks ago, he'd be gone. It looked like they only kept him around because they feared losing him for nothing. If the Sox do think they need a BUC, they will not have trouble finding one. Those guys go from team to team as if they were the punters of MLB... -
Christian Vazquez breaks finger, headed for DL
notin replied to Jasonbay44's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Bryan Holaday reunion? I could also see the Sox moving on Jeff Mathis or Raffy Lopez or Dombrowski draftee Alex Avila... -
Or less pressure? There is always a trade off...
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The Sox did have Lester and Lackey for the majority of those years. Lackey was the rare free agent bust who finished so strong, many don’t consider him one. In 2015, the Sox didn’t have starting pitching. The 2012 rotation added only Ryan Dempster and won a title one year later...
