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The White Sox are being blatant about both. Did they really have any other reason for acquiring a mediocre Yonder Alonso right before meeting with Machado? (Ok, apparently they did. It turns out Alonso is an old friend and former college teammate of another player on their radar - Yasmani Grandal.) But the big reason nothing’s happening on this front is itysti early. January is typically the biggest month and February is for stragglers ( and also when Dombrowski typically operates, for those of you waiting on a closer.)
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Sandy Leon is a typical MLB backup catcher - good glove, no bat. There are plenty of Sandy Leon’s scattered around MLB. Swihart does have more potential, but it’s really been so long since he did anything, it’s getting to be less and less potential every year. Sure injuries have been a factor, but they are also part of why he has less potential than he did 4 years ago. Can he be dealt? Sure. But not for much . 27yo wild cards who haven’t made it yet but we’re once too prospects are as superfluous in MLB as backup catchers. But hey, teams took shots on the Dustin Ackley’s of the world. Just not heavy shots...
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Eric Van makes way to big of a deal about 1.5 fWAR 4 years ago for Swihart and ignores the fact that Caleb Joseph posted 1.4 fWAR that same year in roughly the same playing time. Joseph was non-tendered by the Orioles of all teams and is currently a free agent. Any reason the Mets should be willing to surrender an extremely good SP in Wheeler for a complete gamble in Swihart when Caleb Joseph is available for a minor league deal?
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The chances of getting a top prospect for Swihart are nil. Dombrowski tried to pry a good prospect from teams already and failed. And Swihart hasn’t enhanced his worth at all since. Some people love Johnson. No idea why. He isn’t good. And the Mets trading Wheeler for the pair makes ZERO sense, especially since neither has much going for them beyond control and cost. But by that argument, the Sox could also have traded Marcus Walden for Paul Goldschmidt. After all, Walden is cheap and controllable. And do you honestly think for a second if the Mets made Wheeler available, the best offer they’d get is Johndson and Swihart?
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To be fair, the population of Tampa is a full year older this year. That 10% drop could represent a death toll. And if the Rays want attendance, then they should change the starting times of home games to 4pm so the local populace can go watch them play right after dinner...
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Also the mentality I saw all through 2014. Too many fans can’t watch or handle it when their team isn’t winning, but losing is 50% of sports...
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The flag does fly forever, but if this team doesn’t repeat in 2019 and goes into a playoff-free slump that lasts an incredible two seasons, 2018 will be long-forgotten and the Price contract a massive hindrance...
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Down to a 6 player minimum?
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No one is, except for moonslav, who also likes to rotate player positions based on the opposing starting pitching. His other guilty pleasure is 3 team trades that exceed 8 players...
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Also, the Sox might have a decent MLB shortstop in AA this year with CJ Chatham. But who is the best outfielder in the Sox system? Above A-ball, it’s a battle between Rusney Castillo and Danny Mars, I think. And Rusney is pushing 30...
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Porcello can’t be replaced for $15mill? Which leads to another question - do the Sox want to? Porcello was specifically mentioned by Dombrowski as a player he would listen to deals for. No mention of “replacement.” But maybe the idea is to replace Porcello with Johnson in the rotation and with a closer on the payroll. If the Sox don’t make a move like this, who do you propose fills out the bullpen for free? Or, what’s the better combo - Porcello starting, Barnes closing in status quo bullpen? Or Johnson starting, Kimbrel closing?
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I believe even Bellhorn agrees Swihart won’t get “very much,” as he did say lottery ticket prospect. Vehicle is essentially what Swihart is. I read somewhere Cora wants a defensive 3b, most likely for a late-inning defensive replacement. THAT is the probable ceiling of a Swihart trade...
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Or you go crazy!! Trade Mookie Betts and Rick Porcello for Mike Trout. Trout is signed for 3 more years for about $100mill, but his AAV on this contract is only $24mill. Anaheim gets the closest thing to Trout plus a reliable starting pitcher to join the most oft-injured rotation in MLB history. The Sox get 3 years of Trout fir a lower AAV than Betts will get. And somehow, both teams save money...
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A type of trade I would consider one step above a DFA...
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There is a big difference between saying we have no farm system and the franchise is doomed. That doesn’t mean the unthinkable can’t happen. But how DD replaces the departing free agents will be very important. I wonder if it was a good strategy or a bad one to avoid this particular free agent market...
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You know, all you have to do is answer and it gets tough for me to prove you wrong. I can argue, but nothing definitive. Fine - if you’re GM of the Marlins and you just traded Realmuto without getting a catcher back (the receiving team didn’t have any that were worthwhile). So - where is Swihart on your priority list and what would you give up for him?
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In a related side note, the White Sox just acquired Yonder Alonso. Alonso is Machado’s brother-in-law and they’re allegedly tight. Reportedly the White Sox meet with Machado this weekend. Think Alonso goes to that meeting?
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Define “modest”. Only yesterday he was a suggested key for getting Zack Wheeler. If you were GM of, oh, let’s say the Oakland A’s. You have very weak catching depth (Josh Phegley, Chris Herrmann) and no real money to spend. And you were a playoff team one year ago and hope to return. Would you target Swihart as a viable catching option? (Keeping in mind your standards already targeted Phegley and Hermannn). Or would you target other options? And what would you give up for Swihart, keeping in mind Caleb Joseph and Nick Hundley can probably be had for similar or less money?
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We aren’t replacing them from within without having problems. We might be able to retain one and replace another with a free agent. It will be interesting to see how DD handles it...
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It does if you can’t replace them. If Betts, Bogaerts, Martinez, and Sale leave as free agents, you don’t think it will impact the ability of this team to win?
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Leon actually looks like the most likely one to be on the Sox in2019. Despite all his shortcomings and the obvious over abundance of mediocre catchers, he was still offered arbitration. That Sale appears to like pitching to him might be a big factor here as well. Vazquez might be the starter, but he’s also most likely to actually get a useful piece in a trade. Swihart has no real reade value except that he has more upside than Leon and makes the least money of the three. If there are no injuries, it’s very possible Swihart gets DFAd before the season starts...
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Quick summary - Leon has the lowest ceiling, but Swihart has the lowest floor...
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Don’t forget about Gorkys...
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The big competition for slugging OF/DH types on the market next year will be Khris Davis and Yasiel Puig. This timing is probably not coincidental. There should be a few notable slugging first basemen - Abreu, Rizzo, Goldschmidt...
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Hey last year at this time, all the Sox had done was bring back Mitch Moreland. And it stayed that way for several more weeks...
